Should Snow White Have Stayed Dead?

Now hear me out. i like snow white in this game, i just like a good story with a lot of twist and turns more. She was clear killed off in episode 1 but after the 5 month Dry Spell (took forever for episode 2 to come out) they just decided to play it off all casually and say it was the troll instead. the scenes from the episode didnt match ANY of the scenes from the trailer of episode 2 that u get to see after playing episode 1

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  • edited April 2014

    She's a major character in the comics, so there's no way that could have ever happened. Still, it might have been good if Bigby thought she was dead for more of Episode 2, just to add weight to his actions during that time.

  • Still, it might have been good if Bigby thought she was dead for more of Episode 2, just to add weight to his actions during that time.

    Yeah, I was hoping that would have been the case.

    Kaihu posted: »

    She's a major character in the comics, so there's no way that could have ever happened. Still, it might have been good if Bigby thought she was dead for more of Episode 2, just to add weight to his actions during that time.

  • Even though the chances that you are a troll are really high, i'd say ''killing'' snow was indeed a cheap move by telltale. She stayed dead for such a short time, her coming back in the begining of the episode made her ''death'' seem pointless.

  • Well yeah, they had to completely rewrite the entire 2nd episode it seemed, which felt kind of rushed.

    Even though the chances that you are a troll are really high, i'd say ''killing'' snow was indeed a cheap move by telltale. She stayed dead for such a short time, her coming back in the begining of the episode made her ''death'' seem pointless.

  • It wasnt five months. It was barely four. I think they explained her coming back in a way that was consistent with the Fables universe. I guess since I read the comics and knew she wasnt really dead, all I wanted was a plausible explanation for how she could be brought back and I think I got that.

    Even though the chances that you are a troll are really high, i'd say ''killing'' snow was indeed a cheap move by telltale. She stayed dead for such a short time, her coming back in the begining of the episode made her ''death'' seem pointless.

  • lol..? No

  • Yup.

    Nope. I would've like her to come back maybe the end of Episode 2 or 3.

  • Well, she's a protagonist in the comics. But, yeah, I think it woulda been better if she stayed deadtilepisode 3, so Biggs' actions would have weighed a lot more... I mean, yeah, I like her, but Bigby thinking her dead would make his actions count more.

  • She couldn't have stayed dead, she's alive in the comics.

  • This is like saying Kenny should have died in room/alley. I like Snow too much to want her to die even though she should have. Funny though how Telltale made the person glamoured as her a troll. Get it?.... Troll. We got trolled.

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  • Funny though how Telltale made the person glamoured as her a troll. Get it?.... Troll. We got trolled.

    Holy sh.... I never thought about it this way!

    You've gotta be kidding me. -Crane

    This is like saying Kenny should have died in room/alley. I like Snow too much to want her to die even though she should have. Funny though how Telltale made the person glamoured as her a troll. Get it?.... Troll. We got trolled.

  • edited April 2014

    I think the story could have had her gone a bit longer, or at least have had a meatier explanation for why everyone running Fabletown thought she was dead for that whole time.

    If her reveal was part of the confusion of the end of episode one it'd be one thing, but the way it's kind of glossed over in the start of the second didn't really do the cliffhanger justice.

  • I just purchased the season pass this weekend and played Episodes 1 and 2. I have no experience with the original comics or stories outside of a brief Game Informer development story a year or so ago.

    Based on that limited information, when Snow died, I was completely shocked as I expected her to be in every episode. When I started playing Episode 2, it completely changed the way I wanted to play the game as I just played Bigby then as someone who didn't care about anything except finding the killer and would use any means necessary now. Seeing her return was a disappointment in that sense as my Bigby lost that extra emotional rage.

  • Someone really has to make a gif out of some of these conversations in Episode 2 :'D

    'Yeah, she's a troll. Can we move on?'

    'Certainly another troll.'

    I grinned like a madman through this whole conversation :D

    This is like saying Kenny should have died in room/alley. I like Snow too much to want her to die even though she should have. Funny though how Telltale made the person glamoured as her a troll. Get it?.... Troll. We got trolled.

  • I can't understand how Bigby even thought she was dead. In the comic it tells that where ever she is, he can smell her.

  • Same here, OMG, i'm stupid.

    I FUCKING LOVE YOU, TELLTALE.

    Funny though how Telltale made the person glamoured as her a troll. Get it?.... Troll. We got trolled. Holy sh.... I never thought about it this way! You've gotta be kidding me. -Crane

  • The part that bugs me the most is why did Crane leave the head out there? I mean, he would have had to know the real Snow would pop out eventually. I really feel like TT realized they messed up and rewrote the entire episode half way through production. Explains why ep2 took for ever.

  • I guess TT nerfed him(I know, I know, it's a term usually used for gaming) otherwise he would've found the killer back in ep 1, when he smelled that blood stain on the ground when Faith's body was found.

  • RIGHT! im swear they had me by the balls when i thought she was dead, at that moment i thought "this game might be even greater then Bioshock Infinite" (imma casual gamer so dnt rage on me)

    Even though the chances that you are a troll are really high, i'd say ''killing'' snow was indeed a cheap move by telltale. She stayed dead for such a short time, her coming back in the begining of the episode made her ''death'' seem pointless.

  • RIGHT! im swear they had me by the balls when i thought she was dead, at that moment i thought "this game might be even greater then Bioshock Infinite" (imma casual gamer so dnt rage on me)
    OMG thank u!! i never thought everybody would be this understanding. This my first time ever blogging, but i needed to when i saw all that happen.

  • but cant fables revive if their story is still popular? and the game is before the comics so killing her at the time shouldn't be that impossible.

    Kaihu posted: »

    She's a major character in the comics, so there's no way that could have ever happened. Still, it might have been good if Bigby thought she was dead for more of Episode 2, just to add weight to his actions during that time.

  • but cant fables revive if their story is still popular? and the game is before the comics so killing her at the time shouldn't be that impossible.

    KCohere posted: »

    It wasnt five months. It was barely four. I think they explained her coming back in a way that was consistent with the Fables universe. I gu

  • dnt fables revive if their story is still popular?

    hihitwd posted: »

    She couldn't have stayed dead, she's alive in the comics.

  • YES, YES, YES!!!! YOU uNDERSTAND MY GUY.! We are NOT experts of this series, WE only know what we have SEEN. So bringing us a great story like that only to have it spat on in the next episode (which i waited DESPERATLY for) kinda fucks up the flow you feel me?

    Kid22 posted: »

    I just purchased the season pass this weekend and played Episodes 1 and 2. I have no experience with the original comics or stories outside

  • Fable comic readers read Kidd22 comment and you'll understand why i feel the way i do

  • There is no evidence as of yet that Crane was actually the killer. And he probably wasn't, either, since we are still so early to the season and in the comics it was never stated that Crane had killed anyone.

    GuyWithPie posted: »

    The part that bugs me the most is why did Crane leave the head out there? I mean, he would have had to know the real Snow would pop out even

  • Having not spent much time on these forums (outside of a little bit when I finished Walking Dead Season 1), I find it odd that so many posts get "thumbed down" despite being decent posts. I've been on enough forums to see terrible trolls and hate posts, and I don't see that from the community members here.

    For me, I kind of enjoyed my start to episode 2 where I played Bigby as a guy who had nothing to lose and lost his moral compass in Snow. I think I would have enjoyed playing the rest of the game that way, but with her coming back, I personally feel like I cannot make his story go in that direction again yet.

    Karmahot505 posted: »

    YES, YES, YES!!!! YOU uNDERSTAND MY GUY.! We are NOT experts of this series, WE only know what we have SEEN. So bringing us a great story li

  • It could be that Telltale has nerfed him. Or it could be due to shock, stress, fatigue (He has been through a fight) and the great amount of other smell in the city that caused him to be unable to smell Snow's scent. I remember back in the comics that it is mention that he has to smoke heavily and mentally filter the smell in the city in order to prevent him from being overloaded.

    I guess TT nerfed him(I know, I know, it's a term usually used for gaming) otherwise he would've found the killer back in ep 1, when he smelled that blood stain on the ground when Faith's body was found.

  • I feel the same way. If Snow have stayed dead or gone for a while, I would have been played a way different Bigby. At the beginning of Episode 2, I was pretty much playing a pissed Bigby, who saw the cops as a hindrance and an annoyance. I brutally interrogated Dee, using violence and glassing him. If Snow didn't appear, I would probably have wrecked Georgie's club until he begged me for mercy.

    Snow reappearance kinda extinguish the fire and I returned being a calm and a bit non-violent sheriff.

    Karmahot505 posted: »

    Fable comic readers read Kidd22 comment and you'll understand why i feel the way i do

  • The guy is a prequel to the Fables comics and Snow White is alive in the Fables series. so obviously she was never suppose to be dead. Everyone who was familiar with the Fable series could tell you that her death was never going to be permanent, especially since this game is in continuity with the comics.

  • Except Snow never actually going to die, the comics even establish she is near immortal. Also, killing her off would have been extremely sexist.

    Kid22 posted: »

    I just purchased the season pass this weekend and played Episodes 1 and 2. I have no experience with the original comics or stories outside

  • Nope, still ridiculous. The game is a prequel to the comics and Snow is one of the main characters in the comics. Anyone who is familiar with the Fables series knew she wouldn't die, especially since the Fable series established she is near immortal.

    It would have also been sexist to kill off one of the main female characters in the Fable series.

    In any case, you were dead wrong about there being a change. It's pretty obvious that the dead "Snow" was always going to be a glamoured Lily.

    Karmahot505 posted: »

    Fable comic readers read Kidd22 comment and you'll understand why i feel the way i do

  • You are assuming that Crane is the killer while it's obviously wasn't him. Crane is guilty of being a stalker and a Pervert, but we don't know if he's the killer. So you are not making any sense.

    GuyWithPie posted: »

    The part that bugs me the most is why did Crane leave the head out there? I mean, he would have had to know the real Snow would pop out even

  • Have one of the leading ladies gone longer? That would have been extremely sexist, especially since there aren't that many other female characters in the game yet.

    Mikejames posted: »

    I think the story could have had her gone a bit longer, or at least have had a meatier explanation for why everyone running Fabletown though

  • But that's on you. TellTale said that this game was in continuity with the comics from the start, which means snow was never going to stay dead. If you actually bought that she was dead, that's on you.

    Kid22 posted: »

    I just purchased the season pass this weekend and played Episodes 1 and 2. I have no experience with the original comics or stories outside

  • Killing off an important female character isn't a great "storyline", it's cliche. The fact that she's still alive actually makes the story better.

    The game is in continuity with the comics, so they obviously were never going to kill her.

    Karmahot505 posted: »

    YES, YES, YES!!!! YOU uNDERSTAND MY GUY.! We are NOT experts of this series, WE only know what we have SEEN. So bringing us a great story li

  • So you don't want any female characters in the game? Keeping Snow gone would be a terrible idea, especially since she's one of the most important Fables. Hell, this game is set to show us how she too Crane's job and became the deputy mayor that she is in the comics, which means she has to be alive.

    I feel the same way. If Snow have stayed dead or gone for a while, I would have been played a way different Bigby. At the beginning of Episo

  • She can't stay dead since this game is in continuity with the comics. Every fan of Fables knew she wasn't really dead, so it was better that they didn't drag it out. Especially since there aren't that many female characters in the game.

  • It wasn't pointless, because she was never dead. It was Lily the whole time. The point of the cliffhanger was to fool people into thinking she was dead. Or at least fool the people that had never read the comics.

    Even though the chances that you are a troll are really high, i'd say ''killing'' snow was indeed a cheap move by telltale. She stayed dead for such a short time, her coming back in the begining of the episode made her ''death'' seem pointless.

  • Actually, because this is before comics is exactly why killing her would be impossible. Oh and their story being popular doesn't mean they can be revived, it means they are nearly impossible to kill.

    Karmahot505 posted: »

    but cant fables revive if their story is still popular? and the game is before the comics so killing her at the time shouldn't be that impossible.

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