Quite true. Still, burning Greenleafs tree is the wrong call, and the only reason Snow wanted to do it was because she was righteously angry… more about Crane. But she was taking it out on the wrong person. If she had her way, an innocent witch that sold glamours at affordable prices would be out of business, and worse, out of house and home. All because Ms. White was angry about an unrelated thing. Bigby (as played by me) wouldn't have any of that, so he went against orders and did the right thing.
Also, I don't understand that out of bitchyness and arrogance we're more concerned about Snow. What about Bluebeard? Frog? Gren? Crane? Geor… moregie? Holly? (though with her it's more understandable).
Haven't they all been way more bitchy and arrogant compared to Snow?
I completely agree with you. I didn't feel like she was being bitchy or arrogant at all. She was just trying to do her job. The only moment … moreI got iffy with her was with the tree situation since I clearly felt she was overreacting a bit too much, but I also thought her reaction was a natural one to have given what has happened. I mean, two people have died and it's due to glamours and now we find out that this lady is doing the glamours and illegally? Snow had every right to demand for that tree to be burned. I may have not felt it was the right choice but I could definitely understand her reasoning behind it.
I just felt that she was acting how any human being would act given the circumstances. No need to call her bitchy or arrogant because of it.
Nah, I don't see how shes been bitchy. In most instances she simply wants to avoid conflict and help her fellow fables. She insists we burn … morethe tree because it's personal for her, this is the witch that made it possible for Crane to live out his sick and twisted fantasies. Sure that makes her a little biased, but wouldn't you be? I still didn't do it, but I certainly understood why she felt so strongly. I didn't mind her reminding us she's the boss in the end, because if someone doesn't keep me (thus Bigby) in check to a certain degree, theres nothing to stop me from becoming an all-out loose cannon. That would NOT be good for Fabletown.
As people have pointed out, you don't have to mold your decisions around what she wants. Equally as important, she doesn't have to do what you want, either.
it was a shock to see snow act this way, i haven't read the comics though so am pretty much going in twau blind.
but i kind of understood… more she wasn't getting anywhere with greenleaf and she couldn't ask bigby to wolf out on her ass. so yeah lets threaten her income that'll get results :S
"If snow was a man, no one would be complaining about 'his' attitude."
Well, at least one person would. I would and I'm a woman. I'd prob… moreably call a guy a "d*ck" if they were barking orders at Bigby like that. lol. I don't think it's just because she's a woman. She really annoyed me when she ORDERED me (her words) to burn down Aunty Greenleaf's tree. That just did not sit right with me. It was cruel and unnecessary. It was as if she didn't care about how people were struggling to afford glamours. She also doesn't seem to respect Bigby's office. He's the sheriff and she's a secretary. He ultimately makes the call on how to handle the tree. It's not even illegal, it's just frowned upon to buy black market glamours or to get glamours of other fables. I also don't like how she just gave away evidence to Holly without consulting Bigby first. It's unprofessional. She complains too much in the first episode about not doing anything and it seems l… [view original content]
While I may have favored how the first episode's interaction was more about Snow and Bigby's partnership than it was an argument over their authority, I wouldn't condemn Snow's character. The situation's becoming more dire, and the characters are reflecting that.
While I may have favored how the first episode's interaction was more about Snow and Bigby's partnership than it was an argument over their … moreauthority, I wouldn't condemn Snow's character. The situation's becoming more dire, and the characters are reflecting that.
if someone sell a rat poison to a person and then that person used it to kill another person does that mean the one who sell it is guilty? I don't think so
which is why she become an arrogant douche like larry,she's just making her past as an excuse to be cranky like that,her emotion is clouding her judgement
Snow was subservient to Crane in episode one and she decided then that she wasn't going to be his errand girl anymore. Bigby supports her in… more this, that's why she feels comfortable to throw her weight around a little with him. Also, she has has a lot to deal with, the murders and Crane's obsession with her, reminding her of some terrible times in her past. Give her a break.
It is so funny how the Big Bad Wolf influences Snow White in such a good way... Am i the only one? I mean, now, Biggs is more likable than Snow. Heh. To be honest, i still like Snow, only i like Bigby more.
Yeah but snow always did have that streak in her, in the comics she has that darker arrogant/ controlling nature. It's just Bigby ignores he… morer and slowly changes her into the character that we all like. Don't forget that this is set before the comics so Bigby hasn't influenced her as much yet.
Why? She wasn't bitchy, she was assertive.
Seriously, she was raped by seven dwarves and now crane has fantasies of her with prostitutes. … moreThat is a real traumatic experience. She has right to be mad at crane and make decisions and be impatient. This guy is a complete creep.
In my opinion she was already a great character in the comics, and now she's even better. That episode made me love her much more.
May I remind you, it's YOUR choice. You don't NEED to make nice decisions for Snow. Nothing happens until later in the comics anyway so you aren't going to get with her or anything.
You're the sheriff, you aren't Snow's assistant.
That's simply your opinion that you are.
I don't thinks he arrogant at all, she has confidence sure but I don't think she's arrogant.
PS: If Snow was a man, no one would be complaining about 'his' attitude lol.
It is so funny how the Big Bad Wolf influences Snow White in such a good way... Am i the only one? I mean, now, Biggs is more likable than Snow. Heh. To be honest, i still like Snow, only i like Bigby more.
"If snow was a man, no one would be complaining about 'his' attitude."
Well, at least one person would. I would and I'm a woman. I'd prob… moreably call a guy a "d*ck" if they were barking orders at Bigby like that. lol. I don't think it's just because she's a woman. She really annoyed me when she ORDERED me (her words) to burn down Aunty Greenleaf's tree. That just did not sit right with me. It was cruel and unnecessary. It was as if she didn't care about how people were struggling to afford glamours. She also doesn't seem to respect Bigby's office. He's the sheriff and she's a secretary. He ultimately makes the call on how to handle the tree. It's not even illegal, it's just frowned upon to buy black market glamours or to get glamours of other fables. I also don't like how she just gave away evidence to Holly without consulting Bigby first. It's unprofessional. She complains too much in the first episode about not doing anything and it seems l… [view original content]
which is why she become an arrogant douche like larry,she's just making her past as an excuse to be cranky like that,her emotion is clouding her judgement
if someone sell a rat poison to a person and then that person used it to kill another person does that mean the one who sell it is guilty? I don't think so
if someone sell a rat poison to a person and then that person used it to kill another person does that mean the one who sell it is guilty? I don't think so
it's not illegal,but also not encouraged,that's why the best option would be hiring greenleaf officially,that way the witches can also supervise her preventing anyone from misusing it and supplying fabletown with more affordable glamours,as fabletown is in shortage of it,making the quality goes down but the rates keep climbing up,it makes the most sense to hire her
I don't think Snow is unduly arrogant or bitchy in this episode. There's a lot of facets to the situation you have to consider. She's angry and feels violated by Crane, and is suddenly put in direct charge of the entire community. She's insecure, and needs to make sure everyone understands that she's in charge now, and that Bigby is backing her up. You're not her assistant, either, you're her Sheriff, and it's your investigation. It's not a betrayal to reel her in when she's making a mistake, and it's not your job to suck up to her either. Sometimes you have to stand up to someone to help them improve.
Also, she's nowhere NEAR as callous in the game as she is in the comics. One of the things I initially disliked about The Wolf Among Us was how soft and emotional she was compared to her comics self, and the same goes for Bigby. Seriously, compare Snow as she appears in the very first issue with how she acts around Faith's head in the first episode of Wolf, and it's obvious that she has a long way to go. And I'm fairly sure that it's the experience of governing Fabletown and not Bigby's influence that does the trick.
Bigby himself needs to toughen up and stop whining about what other people think of him. The comics present him as someone everyone already knows is a stone cold killer and a competent detective besides, and that means that nobody is willing to risk angering him, making his work that much simpler and more effective. The majority of the time he doesn't have to bully anyone, because everyone is already shit-scared of him.
I don't think Snow is unduly arrogant or bitchy in this episode. There's a lot of facets to the situation you have to consider. She's angry … moreand feels violated by Crane, and is suddenly put in direct charge of the entire community. She's insecure, and needs to make sure everyone understands that she's in charge now, and that Bigby is backing her up. You're not her assistant, either, you're her Sheriff, and it's your investigation. It's not a betrayal to reel her in when she's making a mistake, and it's not your job to suck up to her either. Sometimes you have to stand up to someone to help them improve.
Also, she's nowhere NEAR as callous in the game as she is in the comics. One of the things I initially disliked about The Wolf Among Us was how soft and emotional she was compared to her comics self, and the same goes for Bigby. Seriously, compare Snow as she appears in the very first issue with how she acts around Faith's head in the first … [view original content]
Some comparisons don't make sense. Snow in the first issue can only be compared with her in episode 3. The situation in episode 1 is more like her in the issues with her family (Bigby and their children). Everyone fully notices his detective skills in issue 5. Snow overreacts when it concerns her in some way, which Bigby knows immediately and reacts causing Snow to be more callous.
I don't think Snow is unduly arrogant or bitchy in this episode. There's a lot of facets to the situation you have to consider. She's angry … moreand feels violated by Crane, and is suddenly put in direct charge of the entire community. She's insecure, and needs to make sure everyone understands that she's in charge now, and that Bigby is backing her up. You're not her assistant, either, you're her Sheriff, and it's your investigation. It's not a betrayal to reel her in when she's making a mistake, and it's not your job to suck up to her either. Sometimes you have to stand up to someone to help them improve.
Also, she's nowhere NEAR as callous in the game as she is in the comics. One of the things I initially disliked about The Wolf Among Us was how soft and emotional she was compared to her comics self, and the same goes for Bigby. Seriously, compare Snow as she appears in the very first issue with how she acts around Faith's head in the first … [view original content]
Well, okay, he's also loyal, dependable and rational, and even amiable around his friends. People have just long since recognized that there's little point and a hell of a risk in hiding something from him if he thinks it's his business.
Bigby as we see him in TWAU is way more outwardly emotional, and not nearly as secure in himself, and it seems that the other fables pick up on that and it's just making his life harder. It'd sort of go against the message of the story for him to have to make an example of the killer to finally reach that point, but it'd make some realistic sense too.
Some comparisons don't make sense. Snow in the first issue can only be compared with her in episode 3. The situation in episode 1 is more li… moreke her in the issues with her family (Bigby and their children). Everyone fully notices his detective skills in issue 5. Snow overreacts when it concerns her in some way, which Bigby knows immediately and reacts causing Snow to be more callous.
Not quite, the Snow we see in Episode 3 is rash and impulsive when making decisions, likely because the issue with Crane is so personal and because she is only recently put in charge. By the time of the comics she's calm and self-assured, doesn't mind utterly dominating "malcontents" and takes the time to think things through unless it's really, really, really personal, and even then she calms down when someone reminds her to. In the game, she's insecure and vulnerable through the entire story, especially around dead bodies, despite having killed at least seven times herself. She seems so sheltered and naive that it's nearly painful.
And yes, I certainly prefer the comics, though the game has a lot going for it too.
Some comparisons don't make sense. Snow in the first issue can only be compared with her in episode 3. The situation in episode 1 is more li… moreke her in the issues with her family (Bigby and their children). Everyone fully notices his detective skills in issue 5. Snow overreacts when it concerns her in some way, which Bigby knows immediately and reacts causing Snow to be more callous.
Not quite, the Snow we see in Episode 3 is rash and impulsive when making decisions, likely because the issue with Crane is so personal and … morebecause she is only recently put in charge. By the time of the comics she's calm and self-assured, doesn't mind utterly dominating "malcontents" and takes the time to think things through unless it's really, really, really personal, and even then she calms down when someone reminds her to. In the game, she's insecure and vulnerable through the entire story, especially around dead bodies, despite having killed at least seven times herself. She seems so sheltered and naive that it's nearly painful.
And yes, I certainly prefer the comics, though the game has a lot going for it too.
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that tree is the reason for the deaths of 2 persons .. so she ordered to burn it .
The funny thing is Snow knows Bigby has changed for around 200 years, and wants others to notice Bigby has changed.
snow is actually on our side and bigby trusts her the most .. rest all are killer suspects in his perspective
correct i burned the tree bcoz it is the reason for the death of 2 fables
for all these stupid fantasies i want to break crane in a half but she stopped me again
just saying she is being too hard on herself ... no offense
just saying she is being too hard on herself ... no offense
yep i'll give it a try too
iin episode 4 snow will slap bigby ... i think
Bigby will get his revenge though. If you want to find out how issue 22 of the comics is a must read.
oh ... now i understood snow's charachter .... thanks for clarification
While I may have favored how the first episode's interaction was more about Snow and Bigby's partnership than it was an argument over their authority, I wouldn't condemn Snow's character. The situation's becoming more dire, and the characters are reflecting that.
yes evey one want bigby and snow to work like a team
I doubt that the reason the killer kills people is that they look like Snow.
if someone sell a rat poison to a person and then that person used it to kill another person does that mean the one who sell it is guilty? I don't think so
which is why she become an arrogant douche like larry,she's just making her past as an excuse to be cranky like that,her emotion is clouding her judgement
It is so funny how the Big Bad Wolf influences Snow White in such a good way... Am i the only one? I mean, now, Biggs is more likable than Snow. Heh. To be honest, i still like Snow, only i like Bigby more.
This.
I don't even need to write my comment anymore. :P
This.
ya right bro .. bigby is more likable and sweet when compared to snow :-P
This, again. I love you guys.
you are right in the way you think
I already this'd two comments. Scroll up, up, and away!
sure i will start reading fables comics
Bigby ain't sweet, brah.
yes so i destroyed the tree without remorse ... to prevent anymore murders
your perspective is right but it is illegal to prepare glamours as the witch did so to prevent further murders we must burn the tree
your perspective is right but it is illegal to prepare glamours as the witch did so to prevent further murders we must burn the tree
lol read it in a sarcastic tone
what ??
our perspectives match a bit i think ... thumbs up :-)
it's not illegal,but also not encouraged,that's why the best option would be hiring greenleaf officially,that way the witches can also supervise her preventing anyone from misusing it and supplying fabletown with more affordable glamours,as fabletown is in shortage of it,making the quality goes down but the rates keep climbing up,it makes the most sense to hire her
lol ... this comment made my day
ok ..:-) i commented your thoughts
I don't think Snow is unduly arrogant or bitchy in this episode. There's a lot of facets to the situation you have to consider. She's angry and feels violated by Crane, and is suddenly put in direct charge of the entire community. She's insecure, and needs to make sure everyone understands that she's in charge now, and that Bigby is backing her up. You're not her assistant, either, you're her Sheriff, and it's your investigation. It's not a betrayal to reel her in when she's making a mistake, and it's not your job to suck up to her either. Sometimes you have to stand up to someone to help them improve.
Also, she's nowhere NEAR as callous in the game as she is in the comics. One of the things I initially disliked about The Wolf Among Us was how soft and emotional she was compared to her comics self, and the same goes for Bigby. Seriously, compare Snow as she appears in the very first issue with how she acts around Faith's head in the first episode of Wolf, and it's obvious that she has a long way to go. And I'm fairly sure that it's the experience of governing Fabletown and not Bigby's influence that does the trick.
Bigby himself needs to toughen up and stop whining about what other people think of him. The comics present him as someone everyone already knows is a stone cold killer and a competent detective besides, and that means that nobody is willing to risk angering him, making his work that much simpler and more effective. The majority of the time he doesn't have to bully anyone, because everyone is already shit-scared of him.
wow
Some comparisons don't make sense. Snow in the first issue can only be compared with her in episode 3. The situation in episode 1 is more like her in the issues with her family (Bigby and their children). Everyone fully notices his detective skills in issue 5. Snow overreacts when it concerns her in some way, which Bigby knows immediately and reacts causing Snow to be more callous.
Well, okay, he's also loyal, dependable and rational, and even amiable around his friends. People have just long since recognized that there's little point and a hell of a risk in hiding something from him if he thinks it's his business.
Bigby as we see him in TWAU is way more outwardly emotional, and not nearly as secure in himself, and it seems that the other fables pick up on that and it's just making his life harder. It'd sort of go against the message of the story for him to have to make an example of the killer to finally reach that point, but it'd make some realistic sense too.
are comics more interesting than game ??
Not quite, the Snow we see in Episode 3 is rash and impulsive when making decisions, likely because the issue with Crane is so personal and because she is only recently put in charge. By the time of the comics she's calm and self-assured, doesn't mind utterly dominating "malcontents" and takes the time to think things through unless it's really, really, really personal, and even then she calms down when someone reminds her to. In the game, she's insecure and vulnerable through the entire story, especially around dead bodies, despite having killed at least seven times herself. She seems so sheltered and naive that it's nearly painful.
And yes, I certainly prefer the comics, though the game has a lot going for it too.
so according to you comics are more interesting than the game