I'm basing who the killer is off of Occam's razor, the hypothesis with the fewest assumptions is 'usually' the best one. The game is a cannon prequel, meaning Telltale cannot kill or dispose of characters that show up in the comics later. They can however do away with the characters that they make up for the prequel itself, and they have free control over characters they themselves create. Snow being the killer is therefore highly unlikely, it does not fit in with her character and her role in the Fables narrative. As for you assigning false necessity to Mary 'having to say that she is the killer', there is nothing inculcated in those actions that give necessity to her saying that she is the killer. It is just not logically valid to say so. Why does she have to say it? Anyway, I'm not saying Mary is the killer, I'm saying one has to assume less to say that Mary is a likely suspect for the murders. You have to assume quite a lot for it to be Snow, which includes assuming that the game is not a cannon prequel. .
I read in a thread that Bloody Mary is not in the comics, so maybe it's not that cannon.
In any case, why wouldn't Bloody Mary admit she'… mores the killer right then and there? She already kidnapped a person under custody, attempted murder, assault, and probably lots of other charges that I am not familiar with. The murders would be too much? I think not. She also was planning to kill Bigby, so why say "He's not the killer" and not taunt him like "He's not the killer...I am". She has a very cocky personality.
Then again maybe I am overthinking this and Telltale is just trying to make an enjoyable story, not write a novel.
Nah, but I would like to talk about how much of a bitch Bloody Mary is, I cannot stress how much I hate her guts right now, I hate her more … morethan any other character in any fictional story right now (Well, at the moment at least), SHE NEEDS TO GO!
On a happier note I'm glad we got to see Flycatcher
To the people at the scene it was obviously self defense, but I would be shocked if there wasn't at least one member of Fabletown in the next episode who calls Bigby a savage beast or that he's no better than he was back in the homelands. My opinion of the season so far is that Bigby is only good in the public eye when he is solving that person's problem, but other than that everybody claims they're better off without him. Hell, even Snow shows many signs of ridicule and lack of trust towards him during this episode alone
Srsly i couldnt kill him.
I know maybe he will try to hurt someone again, but i couldnt do it. I remembered on walking dead se1 when i was a total asshole with kenny (killed larry, ben,punched vereyone, robbed the stranger ect...) and i really regret it. Like Bigby i want to do things diffrent this time. I know, maybe it's saver to kill dee but well...i just cant do it. I mean he had a brother too he cared about. Maybe they just doing these things because they needed the monney. I dont think he deserved to die
I didn't kill him. At the point the option was given, Dum was no threat to Bigby - killing him wouldn't have been self defense; it would have been an execution. If the option to kill him was given while he had a gun in his hands, then things would have been different.
For those that aren't aware, if you choose not to kill Dum, then he ends up blacking out, and while it's never explicitly shown, I really hope this means he gets arrested. He could have a lot of useful information on him, and this time I won't be obliged to let him go after 5 minutes.
Not all who wonder are lost...
Same goes for you.
You have found my comment, i see, Emmy-Chan.
Well done.
I hereby promote you to the **SAN***.
Emmy-San.
Good job.
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I didn't kill him. I was going to, but then I thought "I'm not a murderer. You're under arrest." also the two brothers being able to kill one felt familiar. Then turning around to see snow staring at him...veeeery familiar.
I read in a thread that Bloody Mary is not in the comics, so maybe it's not that cannon.
In any case, why wouldn't Bloody Mary admit she'… mores the killer right then and there? She already kidnapped a person under custody, attempted murder, assault, and probably lots of other charges that I am not familiar with. The murders would be too much? I think not. She also was planning to kill Bigby, so why say "He's not the killer" and not taunt him like "He's not the killer...I am". She has a very cocky personality.
Then again maybe I am overthinking this and Telltale is just trying to make an enjoyable story, not write a novel.
Well, Mary is not in the comics because she is Telltale's creation. The Wolf Among Us does not dictate what happens in the comics, I'm pretty sure that it is the other way around. You have the right idea though, a character like Mary can be killed off since she is not in the comics.
I didn't kill him. At the point the option was given, Dum was no threat to Bigby - killing him wouldn't have been self defense; it would hav… moree been an execution. If the option to kill him was given while he had a gun in his hands, then things would have been different.
For those that aren't aware, if you choose not to kill Dum, then he ends up blacking out, and while it's never explicitly shown, I really hope this means he gets arrested. He could have a lot of useful information on him, and this time I won't be obliged to let him go after 5 minutes.
I showed mercy.
I want Snow to know that Bigby has changed. That he isn't a villain and is completely in control of his actions. That he … moreisn't a beast no more.
Trust me, I wanted to kill Dum so badly. But it was worth it after seeing Bigby looking at Snow right after that. That he spared Dum for her.
Reminds me a lot of the ending to the Disney version of "Beauty and the Beast", when Beast choses to not kill Gaston. Funny coincidence.
Killed him, I couldnt control myself. The two of them came with muderous intent. You cant play the bat man role and expect to protect everyone. Dee and Dum are dangerous and up to no good. I wish you could kill both.
Well, i actually like her in a way i like an antagonist. I mean, she's cool-ass, in a bloody and painful way, but still, cool. I don't LIKE her the way i like Bigby, or Fly, or Snow, but i like her the way i like Carver.
Don't think they had murderous intent. They wanted to shoot Bigby into submission. If Bloody Mary had intended to put Bigby at death's door whatever happened, she would have sent him the silver bullet as soon as she got out of the car. The gang had a purpose - to wrestle Crane out of Bigby/Snow's custody and into theirs. If Bigby and Snow had handed Crane over at first opportunity, I'm pretty sure not a single shot would have been fired. That said, they are violent, immoral scum that will stop at nothing.
Killed him, I couldnt control myself. The two of them came with muderous intent. You cant play the bat man role and expect to protect everyone. Dee and Dum are dangerous and up to no good. I wish you could kill both.
I killed him on my first playthrough, and let him live the second. It felt more true to the character to kill him, though, so that's probably what I'll do in any subsequent playthroughs. I'd already torn off Grendel's arm, beat up Georgie and trashed his place; I'm not going to let someone who literally just tried to kill me live, especially if I'm in wolf form. Normally I try to please Snow, but Bigby the way I play him has to fight to keep his nature at bay, and sometimes loses if the adrenaline is pumping (or whatever the werewolf equivalent is).
Bloody Mary loves the theatrics, and probably has no love for Dee and Dum. Her grabbing woodsman axe stamps her intent IMO. We can argue Dee and Dum's however.
Don't think they had murderous intent. They wanted to shoot Bigby into submission. If Bloody Mary had intended to put Bigby at death's door … morewhatever happened, she would have sent him the silver bullet as soon as she got out of the car. The gang had a purpose - to wrestle Crane out of Bigby/Snow's custody and into theirs. If Bigby and Snow had handed Crane over at first opportunity, I'm pretty sure not a single shot would have been fired. That said, they are violent, immoral scum that will stop at nothing.
I didn't kill him because my Bigby is a good badass but I think if you do kill him some of the fables will start to fear you more or will start to suspect you as the killer of Faith and Lily
But she did stop with the axe when Snow gave in. To me, that shows that the true intent was to get Crane, no matter what the cost. But yes, she is brutal and cruel, no love for anyone except perhaps the Crooked Man.
Bloody Mary loves the theatrics, and probably has no love for Dee and Dum. Her grabbing woodsman axe stamps her intent IMO. We can argue Dee and Dum's however.
I agree, I also think that Bigby's no better than the murderer he's trying to catch himself if he goes murdering people on the way. 2 fables dead are better than 3 ones (if you've saved Lawrence, otherwise it's 3-4). I mean sure the brothers are a pain in the ass but they're working for someone, doing the shit job for, probably, The Crooked Man.
I would love to beat either Dum or Dee until they're barely breathing but killing them makes me no better than the murder itself.
I showed mercy.
I want Snow to know that Bigby has changed. That he isn't a villain and is completely in control of his actions. That he … moreisn't a beast no more.
Trust me, I wanted to kill Dum so badly. But it was worth it after seeing Bigby looking at Snow right after that. That he spared Dum for her.
Reminds me a lot of the ending to the Disney version of "Beauty and the Beast", when Beast choses to not kill Gaston. Funny coincidence.
I would say that your comparison of Bigby to the serial killer, if he kills Dum, is a definite false analogy. Or would you like to try and explain with some evidence how Bigby is like a serial killer who has an actual MO for killing,decapitating, and ritually using the heads of prostitutes? Bluebeard would be a closer analogy to the serial killer, much more than Bigby who did not even seek out that confrontation with the brothers. The brothers sought Bigby and Crane out, with a known kiddie murderer at their side Bloody Marry. Not to mention they were interfering with a police investigation, and decided to shoot Bigby. But oh yes, Bigby is so much like a prostitute murdering serial killer for taking out Dum, next episode he will probably decapitate the head off Dum's body and leave it on Snow's desk as a gift jk.
I agree, I also think that Bigby's no better than the murderer he's trying to catch himself if he goes murdering people on the way. 2 fables… more dead are better than 3 ones (if you've saved Lawrence, otherwise it's 3-4). I mean sure the brothers are a pain in the ass but they're working for someone, doing the shit job for, probably, The Crooked Man.
I would love to beat either Dum or Dee until they're barely breathing but killing them makes me no better than the murder itself.
I had pretty much had enough playing the nice guy and then catching buckshot for my trouble, so I tore that chubby little shit's throat out and giggled the entire time. You push Bigby enough to let the wolf out of his cage, you get the claws. The icing on the cake was the afterthought of "Damn, Dee is gonna be broken after seeing this!" Scarred for life, mentally destroyed. They lived life as if they were two sides of the same coin and now his other half just got eviscerated in front of him and he could do not a damn thing to stop anything.
I think the "argument" with Snow over burning that witch's tree still had me a little defiant as well, adding the desire to throw caution to the wind and not give a damn if I pissed her off again. If the other fables want to think of Bigby as a thug or ruthless killer, whatever. I've been more than fair to everyone I come across, Gren included. Had the chunky pricks come at me with baseball bats or brass knucks, fine, killing me might not have been their intent and killing one of them could be viewed as going too far. These ass clowns got the ok to shut Bigby down for good and smiled at the opportunity to boot. You come at someone to maim, you deserve a broken bone. You come to kill? ...may you rest in piece.
I didn't kill him. Since almost everyone is a judgmental douche in the Fabletown and a good lot of them don't like Wolf already. Though I regret it. Dee deserved to die.
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I'm basing who the killer is off of Occam's razor, the hypothesis with the fewest assumptions is 'usually' the best one. The game is a cannon prequel, meaning Telltale cannot kill or dispose of characters that show up in the comics later. They can however do away with the characters that they make up for the prequel itself, and they have free control over characters they themselves create. Snow being the killer is therefore highly unlikely, it does not fit in with her character and her role in the Fables narrative. As for you assigning false necessity to Mary 'having to say that she is the killer', there is nothing inculcated in those actions that give necessity to her saying that she is the killer. It is just not logically valid to say so. Why does she have to say it? Anyway, I'm not saying Mary is the killer, I'm saying one has to assume less to say that Mary is a likely suspect for the murders. You have to assume quite a lot for it to be Snow, which includes assuming that the game is not a cannon prequel. .
XD your profile pic
Told y'all i'll change it.
Now, whenever i come here, i will be greeted by a super buff Bigby.
Thank you, God.
I leaved him alive, I was thinking maybe I would get more info from him, there is a strong possibility I will regret this.
Also he's technically a wolf so it's bestiality
agreed,I was also kinda remember when he strong armed toad junior,if he's cold enough to do that,then it's dangerous to let him live
I killed him first time just because he shot like 20 bullets of lead into Bigby, but I think it was a mistake.
absolutely ripped his throat,that piece of scum already crossed the line for bigby's mercy,now it's all vengeance for him
I know rit I cant wait for Bigby to get back at that BITCH. ur rit she needs to go.
I knew as soon as I saw Bigby shirtless I was like the girls r never gonna stop talking about this lol.
Actually, he's part wolf, part wind, part human(sort of). He's a kind of demigod.
To the people at the scene it was obviously self defense, but I would be shocked if there wasn't at least one member of Fabletown in the next episode who calls Bigby a savage beast or that he's no better than he was back in the homelands. My opinion of the season so far is that Bigby is only good in the public eye when he is solving that person's problem, but other than that everybody claims they're better off without him. Hell, even Snow shows many signs of ridicule and lack of trust towards him during this episode alone
Srsly i couldnt kill him.
I know maybe he will try to hurt someone again, but i couldnt do it. I remembered on walking dead se1 when i was a total asshole with kenny (killed larry, ben,punched vereyone, robbed the stranger ect...) and i really regret it. Like Bigby i want to do things diffrent this time. I know, maybe it's saver to kill dee but well...i just cant do it. I mean he had a brother too he cared about. Maybe they just doing these things because they needed the monney. I dont think he deserved to die
I destroyed him. I felt bad briefly, I know I'm not supposed to be killing Fables, but the way I see it there were 2 of them anyway
Its a relief to me, and a message for them.
I didn't kill him. At the point the option was given, Dum was no threat to Bigby - killing him wouldn't have been self defense; it would have been an execution. If the option to kill him was given while he had a gun in his hands, then things would have been different.
For those that aren't aware, if you choose not to kill Dum, then he ends up blacking out, and while it's never explicitly shown, I really hope this means he gets arrested. He could have a lot of useful information on him, and this time I won't be obliged to let him go after 5 minutes.
I feel honored. Also, nice profile pic xD
Dem abs
Also, i feel like sharing this with you for no earthly reason...
I didn't kill him. I was going to, but then I thought "I'm not a murderer. You're under arrest." also the two brothers being able to kill one felt familiar. Then turning around to see snow staring at him...veeeery familiar.
Maybe Bloody Mary is not in the comics because Bigby would kill her later, in 4th or 5th ep.
Well, Mary is not in the comics because she is Telltale's creation. The Wolf Among Us does not dictate what happens in the comics, I'm pretty sure that it is the other way around. You have the right idea though, a character like Mary can be killed off since she is not in the comics.
I killed him first time. Was horrified with myself and went back and let him live.
I doubt he would be just left behind by the crooked man, if Dum had useful information...
yeah it'll all be well and good until dum shows up to kill snow later. im sorry, i know she has feelings but these are dangerous people.
I killed him. It's just a dead whore
Killed him, I couldnt control myself. The two of them came with muderous intent. You cant play the bat man role and expect to protect everyone. Dee and Dum are dangerous and up to no good. I wish you could kill both.
I laughed so hard when she barked
OMFG
If he can pull a shotgun on Bigby he can do it on anyone
Don't think they had murderous intent. They wanted to shoot Bigby into submission. If Bloody Mary had intended to put Bigby at death's door whatever happened, she would have sent him the silver bullet as soon as she got out of the car. The gang had a purpose - to wrestle Crane out of Bigby/Snow's custody and into theirs. If Bigby and Snow had handed Crane over at first opportunity, I'm pretty sure not a single shot would have been fired. That said, they are violent, immoral scum that will stop at nothing.
I killed him on my first playthrough, and let him live the second. It felt more true to the character to kill him, though, so that's probably what I'll do in any subsequent playthroughs. I'd already torn off Grendel's arm, beat up Georgie and trashed his place; I'm not going to let someone who literally just tried to kill me live, especially if I'm in wolf form. Normally I try to please Snow, but Bigby the way I play him has to fight to keep his nature at bay, and sometimes loses if the adrenaline is pumping (or whatever the werewolf equivalent is).
I let him live - I was thinking I might be able to get more info from this guy - still I think I made a mistake, I am pretty sure I'll regrate this.
Bloody Mary loves the theatrics, and probably has no love for Dee and Dum. Her grabbing woodsman axe stamps her intent IMO. We can argue Dee and Dum's however.
I didn't kill him because my Bigby is a good badass but I think if you do kill him some of the fables will start to fear you more or will start to suspect you as the killer of Faith and Lily
But she did stop with the axe when Snow gave in. To me, that shows that the true intent was to get Crane, no matter what the cost. But yes, she is brutal and cruel, no love for anyone except perhaps the Crooked Man.
I agree, I also think that Bigby's no better than the murderer he's trying to catch himself if he goes murdering people on the way. 2 fables dead are better than 3 ones (if you've saved Lawrence, otherwise it's 3-4). I mean sure the brothers are a pain in the ass but they're working for someone, doing the shit job for, probably, The Crooked Man.
I would love to beat either Dum or Dee until they're barely breathing but killing them makes me no better than the murder itself.
I would say that your comparison of Bigby to the serial killer, if he kills Dum, is a definite false analogy. Or would you like to try and explain with some evidence how Bigby is like a serial killer who has an actual MO for killing,decapitating, and ritually using the heads of prostitutes? Bluebeard would be a closer analogy to the serial killer, much more than Bigby who did not even seek out that confrontation with the brothers. The brothers sought Bigby and Crane out, with a known kiddie murderer at their side Bloody Marry. Not to mention they were interfering with a police investigation, and decided to shoot Bigby. But oh yes, Bigby is so much like a prostitute murdering serial killer for taking out Dum, next episode he will probably decapitate the head off Dum's body and leave it on Snow's desk as a gift jk.
I didn't do it. I'm thinking "Batman" here. Once Bigby starts, he'll never stop.
(?) Endrik doesn't give a shit
I had pretty much had enough playing the nice guy and then catching buckshot for my trouble, so I tore that chubby little shit's throat out and giggled the entire time. You push Bigby enough to let the wolf out of his cage, you get the claws. The icing on the cake was the afterthought of "Damn, Dee is gonna be broken after seeing this!" Scarred for life, mentally destroyed. They lived life as if they were two sides of the same coin and now his other half just got eviscerated in front of him and he could do not a damn thing to stop anything.
I think the "argument" with Snow over burning that witch's tree still had me a little defiant as well, adding the desire to throw caution to the wind and not give a damn if I pissed her off again. If the other fables want to think of Bigby as a thug or ruthless killer, whatever. I've been more than fair to everyone I come across, Gren included. Had the chunky pricks come at me with baseball bats or brass knucks, fine, killing me might not have been their intent and killing one of them could be viewed as going too far. These ass clowns got the ok to shut Bigby down for good and smiled at the opportunity to boot. You come at someone to maim, you deserve a broken bone. You come to kill? ...may you rest in piece.
I didn't kill him. Since almost everyone is a judgmental douche in the Fabletown and a good lot of them don't like Wolf already. Though I regret it. Dee deserved to die.