I love the Fables comix, but the game choices we make are fake
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I got the game because I saw the walkthrough of episode 1. But I made different choices than whoever made the walkthrough because they made Bigby act like a pussy. However no matter what choices I made, it made no difference to the story.
Sure, telling Beast that he saw Beauty when she asked him not to made her say some pissed-off lines, but I could tell that after that, the plot continued exactly as before. Insult the pig and he makes a snappy comeback, but that's all.
Tearing off the monster's arm in the bar and killing the fat twin in the alley made people call me (I mean, Bigby) names and hate me, but I could tell it didn't affect the game play sequence.
The only decision that might have made a noticeable change in the plot was going to check out Crane's apartment and letting Bluebeard ransack the other place. But ultimately, I'm sure that made no difference either. You'd get the glass shard and fix the mirror anyway.
After a while, I just let the program take the default actions so i could watch it like a movie rather than playing it like a game.
Maybe the game was invented for little kids, or maybe it's because I don't like gaming because it always involves killing people (I'm a girl). This was my first ever 3D game, even though I have had high-end Nvidia cards for 10 years. (I got them because my degree in computer science involved 3d Graphics and its fascinating, so I look at Nvidia demos. I also like hacking the card).
But to me, the things you HAD to do to make the game progress, like look at all the pictures in a book, were just a waste of time. The fights were particularly pointless, since there was no strategy. I'm going to play episode 5 just to find out the motivation for killing the prosties. But no season 2 for me. I'm going to stick to the comix, where the stories don't take 2 hours to read. I read the first 84 so far, and that's only half of them, so they'll keep me busy.
BTW, this is a righteous EXCELLENT story series, truly Firefly-calibre. Check out the story arc where the fables realize that they're characters in the Fables comic book and they deal with the issue of free will. They also talk about how you (the reader) watching them makes them self-conscious during sex.
I mean, is that cool, or WHAT?? ☺
...Okay, so what do YOU think, huh? Well? Huh?
faye kane ♀ girl brain
[removed link to my naked pix]
Comments
Lol GTFO
Why?
Too analytical to hold a child's attention?
Please try to add something better to discussion than that.
Lol you funny troll just get out of here if you don't like it don't waste my time
He's the troll?
"Maybe the game was made for kids". Really? REALLY? Do kids games these days include decapitated heads, bloody fight scenes, prostitution, Little Mermaid boobs, and swearing? No, they don't.
Did you even read what he wrote?
"Maybe the game was invented for little kids"
Probably but the made for kids line kinda pissed me off so i'll admit i kinda overreacted
Okay...not sure why you felt the need to link us to "naked pix," but I'll bite (no, not in that way).
Yes, the choices made in the game don't affect the plot in hugely significant ways. The game can't give players the freedom to not progress the story. It's a story-based game. The point of having the characters "play" as Bigby is not to give them complete control over the events in the plot, but to allow them some degree of influence over how the character of Bigby Wolf reacts to the environment and circumstances in which he finds himself, to make us empathize with him more and feel more engaged in his story.
You mentioned that you ended up choosing different choices than those made in the playthrough you watched because they "made Bigby act like a pussy." That's the point. The game gives you the option of characterizing Bigby how you see fit. Just as you didn't like how meek Bigby was in the playthrough you watched, maybe someone who watches your playthrough wouldn't like how reckless and brutal you made him to be.
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We observe that they do. So does South Park (the show), which is also for kids. What popular 3D game is NOT rated M? All of them are, except sim city and the My Little Pony stuff.
And if the game isn't made so mindless children can bang the controller, then don't you think that all the pointless gameplay decisions that don't affect the story are, well, pointless?
That question is what I'm interested in, not being called a troll for asking it.
-faye
Naked pics?Wtf
Oh my gosh, South Park is not meant for kids. Even the writers of that show say clearly it is not meant for children.
Popular 3D games not rated M? Everything Nintendo makes, Mario, Zelda, Metroid. Other games like Sonic the Hedgehog.
South park is NOT made for kids theres f*cking sex and everything in it
This girl is creepy.Whatever you guys do,do not go onto that link,unless you wanna rip your eyes out a minute after.Its pretty much stupid porn.I wonder if it's for attention...Anyways,she's creepy and she should give a good reason to get banned,so the mods can get her outta here
Um, naked pics?..........
I'm out.
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Thank you, Domewing, for the answer to my question. I guess I was expecting the ability to have more creative control over the game's story. I bet they could have made many more alternate storylines that eventually converge, but they just decided to make it what it is instead. It's only a $25 game by a minor company, after all.
Okay, thank you.
-flk
Go,GO before it's too late!
You know she shared a link to porn,right?
In the places I hang out online, I get a lot of "Tits or GTFO" (or the more modern equivalent) and I tried to deflect that. I'm also a geek and autistic, and I don't have the slightest idea how people will react emotionally. You'd think I'd be used to being called "inappropriate" by now, but it's always disconcerting. Everywhere else, boys like those pix. Anyway, I removed the link.
Apparently people didn't like that I suggested that the game is for little kids, either, and I didn't expect that reaction either. To me, it was just a reasonable statement.
You non-autistics have a strange, violent reaction to damn near everything, you know?
-flk
PS
Are there any games like this that DO let your decisions radically change the story? Does the walking dead game do that more than this one?
I am really into zombie flix, so that would be cool.
-faith
Wow really maybe i ain't the bad guy here lol thx for making me feel less like gren
It's NOT stupid, and it's definitely not porn. It's my blog, which is mostly about astrophysics and how the republicans suck. My naked pix are only in 3 or 4 posts out of 2,324. The naked pix are only at the very bottom of a very long blog post about my little house (maybe 10 screens down).
I removed the link anyway, fuck it. That kind of link makes boys happy everywhere else. I should give up on trying to predict the reaction of non-autistic people. Actually, I pretty much have.
SO DON'T FUCKING LOOK AT THEM, SHIT! Why not look at the other 99% of my post about the game? Don;t you have an opinion on that?
I get that a lot.
I never exactly know why. I often get banned too, and I rarely understand why that, either.
Do you have an opinion about how gameplay decisions affect the game story? Would it make people happier if I removed the link?
Games that allow you to do that are few and far between because it requires vast amounts of resources to be investing in aspects of the game that most players may never get to see because they made one choice and not another. I've heard that The Witcher 2 has quite a major story branch near the end that essentially results in two entire different gameplay sequences, but I don't know of any game that has radical branching throughout the story. Games become exponentially more costly to develop as you create more and more branches in the story.
Alright, I guess I'll give you the rundown. People aren't used to others being so...err...open...with their sexuality. Especially not to the extent that their willing to post such pictures for all to see and especially not on a random game forum. The vast majority have no interest in what you do in the privacy of your own bedroom (or...cave, as the case may be) and they find invitations to view what you do in that private space to be a bit creepy and out of place. So in the future, you know, maybe try to avoid making casual references to things like your sex life. They only distract people from the points you want to make.
Thank you again, domewing! I will look at witcher2. I hope it's graphics are more realistic like in the shooter kill games, and not comic book like this one.
1) The reason why most games involve killing people is because games thrive on conflict. In them we can do what we can't in reality (unless we want to die or go to jail) - and since most games are made by men we incorporate the Hunter instinct into them. Stalk - isolate - kill. You find your target, you concentrate your fire onto it, you kill it - endorphin rush. There are games that don't involve, or challenge you to do a non-lethal playthrough (Splinter Cell and Reservoir Dogs being perfect examples), but since most people want to relax that means they want to blow off steam, which means lotsa murder. This ends my defense of why killing is a staple of games because my brain interpreted your comment as an attack.
2) This ain't a ''game'' in that classic sense. It's a linear interactive story. Same could be said for all linear games, I suppose, but this one lacks a proper challenge like Mario or Doom. It's made for a casual audience so that they can relax easily. We know that this is the nature of the game, so we take it into account when we praise it. You had gone into it expecting challenging gameplay. For avoidance of such occurances in the future I seriously suggest researching what the game is about and how it plays.
3) Telltale is a game developer with a small budget, and they don't do AAA games like Mass Effect and Dragon Age where you have thousands of side quests that give you the illusion of narrative malleability. Again: research.
See I didn't know that. I read CPU magazine because it's the only mag about PC hardware, and all the ads are for shoot and kill M rated games. I didn't know there were any other kind.
But Mario and Sonic are from the 80s. I guess they must have made 3D versions, but the game would sure have to include a lot more than the originals.
--flk
They say that for CYA. Everybody knows kids watch it. That disclaimer is like where the porn sites say "click here if you're under 18" and it's a link to the disneyland site. Sure, like all the 17 year-old boys will click the disneyland link after searching for a porn site.
Non-autistics are all about "let's everybody pretend that 2+2=5" when it's blatantly obvious that everyone knows it isn't. I'm always the one to point out that the emperor has no clothes on, and then everyone acts all indignant.
Faye_Kane, you are extremly narrow-minded if you think gaming is just about killing. Games are art and way better art than you'll ever make.
Well kids are not meant too see it anyway so its not anyone's fault but the parents or whoever lets the kids watch
You wasted your own time.
Edit: Okay, after reading about the porn link, I have to agree that the OP is out of line. I didn't know they posted a link to pornography. That's pretty bad.
Eww. Really? Why wasn't this thread closed then? I didn't know that. What kind of weirdo posts that stuff on this forum?
You obviously aren't a South Park fan. South Park is NOT a children's show. It's clearly a satirical comedy meant for adults.
And that stuff is the main reason for my 1st post
You posted them in your comment. So, telling people to not click on your link is a bit ridiculous. Why would you do that? You obviously have ulterior motives if you're posting naked pictures on a Telltale forum.
THANK YOU. I removed the link.
Autistic people aren't like retards, we ARE retards, except we can speak well so nobody knows that. We're also usually real good at just one thing (for me, it's spacetime geometry). But other than that, I'm literally retarded. And I know it. Calculus is fun, but I can't do 3rd grade arithmetic in my head. Literally.
Just explain shit to me instead of yelling at me and unless it's a 2+2=5 thing, I'll comply, even though I don't understand. Other places, boys ASK for naked pix.
...never mind. Case closed.
Again, THANK YOU. All I needed was an explanation. I'm actually very simpleminded and I'm just curious about stuff, that's all. I just never did gaming before.
The mod can close this thread if they want.
See, that's the kind of inexplicable hostility I usually get. ViralType and DomeWing are the kind of people I prefer to hang around.