Fables being hard to kill doesn't mean they are "though"... if that's what you meant. When did I say always? Can you point it? You know what? Don't. I am done trying to help you understand that scene... belive what you must...
Do you know what tend to means? Most likely. "Fables are hard to kill." So which one would be more likely #1 or #2? First you said always, now you say tend to. Make up your mind.
Hi there, I am new here. But made an account to simply say that I have guessed the suspect on who is behind these murders.
This is not the answer of who killed who, but who is actually making these deaths happen, the one who is making the calls.
That answer is: Snow White
Why do you ask? Here is my theory on why it is Snow White.
Faith's death - Snow White in her fable story is meant to be the girl is the fairest of all the land. But faith's fable story says the exact same thing, this her hiding under a donkey skin. Snow White wanting to be the fairest of all the land eliminates her.
Lily's death - why would Snow White want someone going around looking like her? As said before, Snow is meant to be the fairest of all the land, but Lily glamoured up to look like her and cheated that from her. Maybe Snow found out about Lily after seeing her with Woody?
Magic Mirror broken - mirror mirror on the floor, who is the fairest of them all. Convenient for Snow to be able to ask this question to the mirror in the same room as she works in. The Mirror is handy to ask questions to for an answer, so if snow kills crane (see below) then it would be easy to ask because his lips are not sealed.
Crane as suspect - probably the next murder tbh. Crane loved Snow White even though he treated her like rubbish in the office. Probably snow found out he was using Lily as Snow's replacement and setup the whole thing.
Snow's look like murder - Helps clear snow from being a suspect when it looks like she is the target.
Snow's involvement with Bigsby - obviously she does not want Bigsby as a lover, but always close to him to make sure she ain't a suspect. I mean she left when he went into the bar and that was in the right time frame for killing Lily.
This is all theory and speculation. But I don't think she actually did the murders herself, but that might be the case. I think the tweedles were paid to murder the people, but I have no evidence there.
Thanks for reading this far, let me know if you agree.
TKT
EDIT:: Maybe Bluebeard is involved with the Murders (since it is his MO), but doing it under Snow's orders. Especially now he looks like he is running the office now. Also don't you think that when you are interrogating either Woody or Dee, they keep slipping up about their "Boss" and Snow White just turns up to stop the interrogation conveniently? She would know when to come in a stop them, because she would be watching the interrogation with Toad up in the Office through the mirror.
Alot of evidence that points to her imo.
If it is her.. I would like to say I called it first. ;P
On more time - VIVIAN.
Bigby ignoring this lead would really surprise me. She's a girl from Pudding and Pie, she knew Lily and Faith. She smokes. What brand? Well, there is cigarette machine in club. With Huff&Puff inside. She knows Crane. They had a meeting last night. Crane asked about wine, remember? There was bottle of wine in room 207! And Huff&Puff cigarettes! There is an achievement "Huff&Puff" in 3rd ep. Vivian knows as much as Crane, at least. With Ichabod gone, I would go and ask her.
It would be too easy if Crane was the killer all along. I'm still waiting for episode 3. I think our killer hasn't been introduced yet.
As a random side note, I think it would be AWESOME if there were 2 different outcomes based on how we play...you know sorta like the movie Clue.
We have two characters with plausible motives to kill Fables and based on how we play we get the ending where one of the two Fables is the culprit. That to me would be worth the wait.
i think it's Bluebeard because he wants to be the mayor or the sheriff when Faith and Lily died he was out of town we don't know if he was really out of town OR he killed those women and hired tweedle dee and tweedle dum for a reason that's my guess
On more time - VIVIAN.
Bigby ignoring this lead would really surprise me. She's a girl from Pudding and Pie, she knew Lily and Faith. She … moresmokes. What brand? Well, there is cigarette machine in club. With Huff&Puff inside. She knows Crane. They had a meeting last night. Crane asked about wine, remember? There was bottle of wine in room 207! And Huff&Puff cigarettes! There is an achievement "Huff&Puff" in 3rd ep. Vivian knows as much as Crane, at least. With Ichabod gone, I would go and ask her.
I think we will find out who the killer is in the final episode.
It cant be the Crooked man because that would just be too obvious, maybe someone who is bigger than the Crooked man or maybe someone who is completely rogue.. Im Certain its not Bluebeard because he seems to be up to something else... It has to be someone from Bigby's past trying to get revenge.. someone Bigby has done damage to.. The boy who cried wolf.. Colin.. Red Riding hood, someone who has not been introduced..
I very much doubt it. Granted, they're the only rich Fables but most/all of funds 'donated' to the Fabletown Government by Bluebeard has ended up in The Crooked Man's pocket. For proof, look at Crane's file in the Tweedles' office.
If I were Bluebeard, I'd be very pissed with that. Pissed with Crane for falling into debt in the first place and pissed at Crooked Man for sinking so low as to claim it from the coffers of Fabletown.
It wouldn't surprise me if the witches on the 13th floor are taxed heavily to help pay Crane's debt and that's why their prices keep climbing. That would mean Crane's desperation and greed are the source of the strife in Fabletown. Eliminate him and you take a good stab at relieving poverty.
Motives. There may be hundreds of them; jealous, hate, vengance, madness... Her story, knowing who she actually was, would help a lot but according to Book of Fables: "Much of Vivian's past is unknown since she prefers not to talk about her life back in the Homelands."
Edit. "Lily. Now you will never die from indifference or lead a tedious life... Vivian." It may be something or not.
Bluebeard could possibly be involved, you can never write him off when trouble happens in Fabletown, but I don't think he is the murderer. Bluebeard is power obsessed and that is always his main goal as he tries time and time again to take over in the Fables comics.
Colin is not the killer. Despite their disagreements, Colin and Bigby are friends. While it's not necessary to read the comics, it definitely helps narrow down the suspect list in the game. All the inhabitants of the Farm are disgruntled at having to live up there, but Colin would not kill someone to get accepted into Fabletown. Colin ends up dying very early on the comics and serves as a sort of life coach for Snow.
I don't believe that Vivian was Crane's prostitute. While Vivian was the one that was called, I see her as a secretary or organizer at the club. She manages the girls and sets up their appointments. I believe Faith was Crane's prostitute due to the note that you find from Faith thanking Lily for covering her shift. I think Crane settled for Faith, because she had a passing resemblance to Snow, but once he found that Lily could glamour herself into looking like Snow he continued to see her.
Georgie is a mystery to me. I'm not sure if he's involved with Crane or Bloody Mary and her employer. When Georgie made a call saying "We've got a problem..." when Snow and Bigby arrived at the Pudding and Pie, I took it in two ways. One: Georgie is involved with the power structures in place in Fabletown, Crane's embezzlement perhaps, and was calling someone to let them know that Crane was in trouble of being arrested and interrogated. Two: Georgie called the Bloody Mary and co. to alert their employer, that could be setting Crane up, that Crane was getting brought in.
Not sure about what might come next. I do know that I punched Crane in the face and it was great.
Just before you see the crooked man, you hear someone say; "Stop laughing." This voice is clearly Georgie. He dumped the body in the river, but I doubt he was the one that murdered her. My guess is that whoever is killing the girls, is taking their ribbons off to cut off their heads, then just takes the head with them and taunts the fables with them. I am assuming that they are being killed in "The Open Arms" and that Georgie is just trying to "clean up" the scene without being the murder.
A "good" murder mystery introduces the murderer pretty early on in the story, portraying him/her as innocent.
If TTG have yet to introduce the actual murderer, they've done a terrible job. How is anyone supposed to solve the crime (which is a really fun part about murder mysteries) if the one who is guilty doesn't even exist yet?
I think the murderer was introduced very early on. Like Cryer, or Vivian.
A "good" murder mystery introduces the murderer pretty early on in the story, portraying him/her as innocent.
If TTG have yet to introduc… moree the actual murderer, they've done a terrible job. How is anyone supposed to solve the crime (which is a really fun part about murder mysteries) if the one who is guilty doesn't even exist yet?
I think the murderer was introduced very early on. Like Cryer, or Vivian.
A "good" murder mystery introduces the murderer pretty early on in the story, portraying him/her as innocent.
If TTG have yet to introduc… moree the actual murderer, they've done a terrible job. How is anyone supposed to solve the crime (which is a really fun part about murder mysteries) if the one who is guilty doesn't even exist yet?
I think the murderer was introduced very early on. Like Cryer, or Vivian.
Snow White is the killer she comes back in episode 2 and you find out that the head belonged to lily , holys sister that went missing some time ago and all other evidences lead to snow in episode 4 and 3 and 2
Snow White is the killer she comes back in episode 2 and you find out that the head belonged to lily , holys sister that went missing some time ago and all other evidences lead to snow in episode 4 and 3 and 2
Snow White is the killer she comes back in episode 2 and you find out that the head belonged to lily , holys sister that went missing some time ago and all other evidences lead to snow in episode 4 and 3 and 2
Snow White is the killer she comes back in episode 2 and you find out that the head belonged to lily , holys sister that went missing some time ago and all other evidences lead to snow in episode 4 and 3 and 2
I still think it's Vivian after episode 4. Now we found out she's part of "The Crooked Man's group" so she could just ask him to do it. Besides, she knew the victims and smokes Huff and Puff's. I hope that in the final episode she transforms into her true form (assuming she's glamoured) and we have to fight her.
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Fables being hard to kill doesn't mean they are "though"... if that's what you meant. When did I say always? Can you point it? You know what? Don't. I am done trying to help you understand that scene... belive what you must...
Hi there, I am new here. But made an account to simply say that I have guessed the suspect on who is behind these murders.
This is not the answer of who killed who, but who is actually making these deaths happen, the one who is making the calls.
That answer is: Snow White
Why do you ask? Here is my theory on why it is Snow White.
This is all theory and speculation. But I don't think she actually did the murders herself, but that might be the case. I think the tweedles were paid to murder the people, but I have no evidence there.
Thanks for reading this far, let me know if you agree.
TKT
EDIT:: Maybe Bluebeard is involved with the Murders (since it is his MO), but doing it under Snow's orders. Especially now he looks like he is running the office now. Also don't you think that when you are interrogating either Woody or Dee, they keep slipping up about their "Boss" and Snow White just turns up to stop the interrogation conveniently? She would know when to come in a stop them, because she would be watching the interrogation with Toad up in the Office through the mirror.
Alot of evidence that points to her imo.
If it is her.. I would like to say I called it first. ;P
On more time - VIVIAN.
Bigby ignoring this lead would really surprise me. She's a girl from Pudding and Pie, she knew Lily and Faith. She smokes. What brand? Well, there is cigarette machine in club. With Huff&Puff inside. She knows Crane. They had a meeting last night. Crane asked about wine, remember? There was bottle of wine in room 207! And Huff&Puff cigarettes! There is an achievement "Huff&Puff" in 3rd ep. Vivian knows as much as Crane, at least. With Ichabod gone, I would go and ask her.
Searching for Beauty. He's been doing that since we first saw him.
It would be too easy if Crane was the killer all along. I'm still waiting for episode 3. I think our killer hasn't been introduced yet.
As a random side note, I think it would be AWESOME if there were 2 different outcomes based on how we play...you know sorta like the movie Clue.
We have two characters with plausible motives to kill Fables and based on how we play we get the ending where one of the two Fables is the culprit. That to me would be worth the wait.
i think it's Bluebeard because he wants to be the mayor or the sheriff when Faith and Lily died he was out of town we don't know if he was really out of town OR he killed those women and hired tweedle dee and tweedle dum for a reason that's my guess
Im sticking to that red head. Although there are connections with Bluebeard, the Dee brothers, and that Vivian girl.
What would be her motive? Not saying it is not possible, but what would the motive be?
I think we will find out who the killer is in the final episode.
It cant be the Crooked man because that would just be too obvious, maybe someone who is bigger than the Crooked man or maybe someone who is completely rogue.. Im Certain its not Bluebeard because he seems to be up to something else... It has to be someone from Bigby's past trying to get revenge.. someone Bigby has done damage to.. The boy who cried wolf.. Colin.. Red Riding hood, someone who has not been introduced..
I hope Bluebeards not in league with crooked man.
I very much doubt it. Granted, they're the only rich Fables but most/all of funds 'donated' to the Fabletown Government by Bluebeard has ended up in The Crooked Man's pocket. For proof, look at Crane's file in the Tweedles' office.
If I were Bluebeard, I'd be very pissed with that. Pissed with Crane for falling into debt in the first place and pissed at Crooked Man for sinking so low as to claim it from the coffers of Fabletown.
It wouldn't surprise me if the witches on the 13th floor are taxed heavily to help pay Crane's debt and that's why their prices keep climbing. That would mean Crane's desperation and greed are the source of the strife in Fabletown. Eliminate him and you take a good stab at relieving poverty.
Motives. There may be hundreds of them; jealous, hate, vengance, madness... Her story, knowing who she actually was, would help a lot but according to Book of Fables: "Much of Vivian's past is unknown since she prefers not to talk about her life back in the Homelands."
Edit. "Lily. Now you will never die from indifference or lead a tedious life... Vivian." It may be something or not.
Colin is not the killer. Despite their disagreements, Colin and Bigby are friends. While it's not necessary to read the comics, it definitely helps narrow down the suspect list in the game. All the inhabitants of the Farm are disgruntled at having to live up there, but Colin would not kill someone to get accepted into Fabletown. Colin ends up dying very early on the comics and serves as a sort of life coach for Snow.
I don't believe that Vivian was Crane's prostitute. While Vivian was the one that was called, I see her as a secretary or organizer at the club. She manages the girls and sets up their appointments. I believe Faith was Crane's prostitute due to the note that you find from Faith thanking Lily for covering her shift. I think Crane settled for Faith, because she had a passing resemblance to Snow, but once he found that Lily could glamour herself into looking like Snow he continued to see her.
Georgie is a mystery to me. I'm not sure if he's involved with Crane or Bloody Mary and her employer. When Georgie made a call saying "We've got a problem..." when Snow and Bigby arrived at the Pudding and Pie, I took it in two ways. One: Georgie is involved with the power structures in place in Fabletown, Crane's embezzlement perhaps, and was calling someone to let them know that Crane was in trouble of being arrested and interrogated. Two: Georgie called the Bloody Mary and co. to alert their employer, that could be setting Crane up, that Crane was getting brought in.
Not sure about what might come next. I do know that I punched Crane in the face and it was great.
Just before you see the crooked man, you hear someone say; "Stop laughing." This voice is clearly Georgie. He dumped the body in the river, but I doubt he was the one that murdered her. My guess is that whoever is killing the girls, is taking their ribbons off to cut off their heads, then just takes the head with them and taunts the fables with them. I am assuming that they are being killed in "The Open Arms" and that Georgie is just trying to "clean up" the scene without being the murder.
A "good" murder mystery introduces the murderer pretty early on in the story, portraying him/her as innocent.
If TTG have yet to introduce the actual murderer, they've done a terrible job. How is anyone supposed to solve the crime (which is a really fun part about murder mysteries) if the one who is guilty doesn't even exist yet?
I think the murderer was introduced very early on. Like Cryer, or Vivian.
I think they've already established it as TCM and someone who works for him.
I think it was Vivian too.
At least in Lilly's case.
Snow White is the killer she comes back in episode 2 and you find out that the head belonged to lily , holys sister that went missing some time ago and all other evidences lead to snow in episode 4 and 3 and 2
No she's not. And I mean it as a fact. She is one of main characters in the comic book.
What other evidence?
Double post. Ignore.
I still think it's Vivian after episode 4. Now we found out she's part of "The Crooked Man's group" so she could just ask him to do it. Besides, she knew the victims and smokes Huff and Puff's. I hope that in the final episode she transforms into her true form (assuming she's glamoured) and we have to fight her.