Bloody Mary as ultimate villain was very anti-climatic

Did anyone else find it very anti-climatic for the Big Bad Wolf to be almost killed by some chick with a silver bullet?

I get that silver is toxic to werewolves, but why is it that only she can use silver bullets and not anybody else (e.g. the Tweedle twins)? Did no other criminal think of doing that?

Even more troubling was the preview of Episode 5 where it appears like she's attacking him physically. I didn't like that and I think I'm going to wait for the reviews :( I would not have bothered with the series if I knew the ending would be so anti-climatic. Hindsight is 20/20, though and I won't make the mistake with other games - I will wait for the entire season to be completed.

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  • I agree with Cathal

    CathalOHara posted: »

    Wow, talk about judgemental. The final episode isn't out yet and you're saying you're not going to play it just because you don't like a character?

  • Wow, talk about judgemental. The final episode isn't out yet and you're saying you're not going to play it just because you don't like a character?

  • Obviously she's smarter than the Tweedles. Are there bullets made out of silver for real? It would seem like a waste of a valuable resource?

  • I agree, that was so silly... all the Fables in the town knows he's a werewolf :D

  • edited July 2014

    I think silver bullets are expensive plus in the trailer we can see that Croked man will also use silver bullets againts Bigby.

  • ... or you could just wait for the Episode to come out before casting any judgement calls.

    Who is to say Telltale wasn't throwing us off in the trailer? Who is to say Bloody Mary is even the "final" villain?

  • The silver bullet thingy couldve just been a plot hole which is ok in a videogame. But yeah I didnt like that it looks like Bigby is scared while she is beating him up in the trailer. I wouldnt like it if that happened.

  • I hope you're right. But it's hard to imagine that we won't see Bloody Mary physically manhandling the Big Bad Wolf, when they've shown the first few seconds of that encounter.

    ... or you could just wait for the Episode to come out before casting any judgement calls. Who is to say Telltale wasn't throwing us off in the trailer? Who is to say Bloody Mary is even the "final" villain?

  • Thanks for pointing that out.

    I didn't even notice that Bigby looked scared, and I still found it ridiculous.

  • He didn't look scared to me in the trailer

    Corvan posted: »

    Thanks for pointing that out. I didn't even notice that Bigby looked scared, and I still found it ridiculous.

  • I'm pretty sure the Tweedles DID use Silver Bullets, if you listen to Swineheart. That's why he had to get all of the sharpnel out of you.

  • I thought he was referring to the single Silver Bullet, which I think he has said "exploded on impact." The rest of the bullets had "left his internal organs positively riddled" as he said, but most of the fatal damage was only from the Silver Bullet exploding I think.

    Piggs posted: »

    I'm pretty sure the Tweedles DID use Silver Bullets, if you listen to Swineheart. That's why he had to get all of the sharpnel out of you.

  • The thing with the silver bullet is not a plot hole by any means. Silver bullets along with fire can kill Bigby, and I don't know what you mean exactly when you say Bigby looks scared in the trailer. He looks like someone involved in a physical encounter, which he is.

    I don't really have a problem with Mary being the "final" villain, and all the worries that the OP has will be gone by the end of the episode...I guarantee it.

    Molvi posted: »

    The silver bullet thingy couldve just been a plot hole which is ok in a videogame. But yeah I didnt like that it looks like Bigby is scared while she is beating him up in the trailer. I wouldnt like it if that happened.

  • He wasn't scared. He looked like a guy who was struggling in a fight. How else would he look? Keep a bland expression throughout that whole struggle?

    Corvan posted: »

    Thanks for pointing that out. I didn't even notice that Bigby looked scared, and I still found it ridiculous.

  • Those shotguns didn't have silver bullets at all. If they used silver bullets in those shotguns, Bigby would be dead on the spot. Even Swineheart said, "Eat as many metal shellings as you want, but one more silver bullet and you're done for." Therefore the shells in the shotguns were just normal shells.

    Piggs posted: »

    I'm pretty sure the Tweedles DID use Silver Bullets, if you listen to Swineheart. That's why he had to get all of the sharpnel out of you.

  • That's correct. Dee & Dum didn't use any silver bullets. Bigby would've been dead instantaneously if that were the case.

    I thought he was referring to the single Silver Bullet, which I think he has said "exploded on impact." The rest of the bullets had "left hi

  • If they used silver bullets Bigby would be very dead.

    Piggs posted: »

    I'm pretty sure the Tweedles DID use Silver Bullets, if you listen to Swineheart. That's why he had to get all of the sharpnel out of you.

  • edited July 2014

    She's not just "some chick with a silver bullet." She's a murderous, psychotic Fable with an inherent resistance to magic and the ability to teleport through any reflective surface. How is that anti-climatic?

    Just look at this crazy bitch--> Alt text

  • edited July 2014

    Maybe the crooked man never wanted it to get that bad so he just gave the Tweedles shot guns and he gave Mary the silver bullet just incase things got out of hand, remember the crooked man wanted Crane he didn't care about Bigby and snow for the most part.

  • edited July 2014

    Mod edit: Please don't insult people. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Respect is the first rule of the forum guidelines.

    "was"

    She isn't the main villain, just some muscle.

    Also, silver during the 1980's was pretty fuckin' expensive.

  • Correct. The only way Bigby can withstand them is in his kickass full wolf form, which just so happens to be your profile picture.

    Silver bullets completely wreck him in partial-wolf/werewolf.

    The thing with the silver bullet is not a plot hole by any means. Silver bullets along with fire can kill Bigby, and I don't know what you m

  • No, Bloody Mary just used a hollow point that shreds on impact and peppers throughout your organs.

    They were banned in the Geneva Convention in wars for doing too much damage.

    Piggs posted: »

    I'm pretty sure the Tweedles DID use Silver Bullets, if you listen to Swineheart. That's why he had to get all of the sharpnel out of you.

  • Psychopaths can't determine right from wrong, she's a sociopath. She knows the difference, she just doesn't give a fuck.

    DomeWing333 posted: »

    She's not just "some chick with a silver bullet." She's a murderous, psychotic Fable with an inherent resistance to magic and the ability to teleport through any reflective surface. How is that anti-climatic? Just look at this crazy bitch-->

  • JESUS, I get it. I don't need five people to explain to me why I'm wrong.

    Fizzdar posted: »

    No, Bloody Mary just used a hollow point that shreds on impact and peppers throughout your organs. They were banned in the Geneva Convention in wars for doing too much damage.

  • Should of edited your post then.

    Piggs posted: »

    JESUS, I get it. I don't need five people to explain to me why I'm wrong.

  • That isn't true, actually. Psychopaths and Sociopaths both have difficulties sympathizing with others. The difference, however, is that Psychopaths tend to have criminal or extremely morally incorrect behaviourisms. They're capable of recognizing that they shouldn't do wrong, but they'll be too disconnected from the feelings of others to care. Sociopaths are more willing to abide by the rules, and when they do hurt others around them, they tend to be more emotionally hurtful and manipulative.

    That being said, Bloody Mary is obviously a Psychopath.

    Fizzdar posted: »

    Psychopaths can't determine right from wrong, she's a sociopath. She knows the difference, she just doesn't give a fuck.

  • I'm not going to edit the context out of my post. But do you really think that, not only did I need to get their messages, but I needed to get YOUR message as well? Really?

    Fizzdar posted: »

    Should of edited your post then.

  • Could of made it

    I'm pretty sure the Tweedles DID use Silver Bullets, if you listen to Swineheart. That's why he had to get all of the sharpnel out of you. EDIT: I see they didn't, I was wrong.

    Piggs posted: »

    I'm not going to edit the context out of my post. But do you really think that, not only did I need to get their messages, but I needed to get YOUR message as well? Really?

  • *A sociopath is a person who is plagued with a personality disorder that is marked by traits of anti-social behavior. On the other hand, a psychopath is a person who has an antisocial personality disorder that is seeping with an aggressive, perverted, criminal mind with an amoral behavior that lacks empathy and remorse. *

    A psychopath is inherently aggressive, where a sociopath can simply choose to be.

    Piggs posted: »

    That isn't true, actually. Psychopaths and Sociopaths both have difficulties sympathizing with others. The difference, however, is that Psyc

  • She's a psychopath. She doesn't choose to be aggressive, she is aggressive. If anyone is a sociopath, it's Bigby.

    Fizzdar posted: »

    *A sociopath is a person who is plagued with a personality disorder that is marked by traits of anti-social behavior. On the other hand, a p

  • Psychopaths can still determine right from wrong based on what society's taught them. It's not like they're completely blind to what they're doing. If a psychopathic child's mother tells her not to be violent, he knows that his mother doesn't want him to be violent. He just won't have "empathy or remorse" for his actions. So, he just won't give a shit.

    Fizzdar posted: »

    *A sociopath is a person who is plagued with a personality disorder that is marked by traits of anti-social behavior. On the other hand, a p

  • edited July 2014

    She could of killed Snow in that alley, as well as Bigby, and the two Tweedles.

    She chooses to slaughter mundies and picks her battles, the Crooked Man just shelters and pays her to do so, that's why she's employed by him.

    She's a psychopath. She doesn't choose to be aggressive, she is aggressive. If anyone is a sociopath, it's Bigby.

  • But can they overcome their born "aggressive, perverted, criminal mind"? If you really hate the color green, yet society tells you it's a good color, you'll still hate it.

    Piggs posted: »

    Psychopaths can still determine right from wrong based on what society's taught them. It's not like they're completely blind to what they're

  • edited July 2014

    How do you know that Bloody Mary chooses to be evil? If you were to look at her fable, it seems that she has little choice but to be evil. It's in her nature. Look at Bigby; he can be nice sometimes, but he's still as violent and tricky as he was in his fable. He can't help but stick to his past and has difficulties supressing his instincts.

    Look at Tiny Tim. He's stuck with a permenant leg injury because of his fable. Look at all of the british fables. They're stuck with that accent due to the origins/locations of their fables. And of course, look at the fables with a history of violence. They can't shake the violence nature they displayed in their fables. Bloody Mary had a very violent fable, so she's stuck with her violent nature. Even if she put effort into redeeming herself, she'd be unable to shake her killing instincts. She is, without a doubt, a Psychopath.

    Fizzdar posted: »

    But can they overcome their born "aggressive, perverted, criminal mind"? If you really hate the color green, yet society tells you it's a good color, you'll still hate it.

  • She was about to kill them until they handed Crane over. And her job description...a psychopaths dream.

    Fizzdar posted: »

    She could of killed Snow in that alley, as well as Bigby, and the two Tweedles. She chooses to slaughter mundies and picks her battles, the Crooked Man just shelters and pays her to do so, that's why she's employed by him.

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    ... or you could just wait for the Episode to come out before casting any judgement calls. Who is to say Telltale wasn't throwing us off in the trailer? Who is to say Bloody Mary is even the "final" villain?

  • Again, simply doing her job. If she was a true "psychopath" she'd of kill them then.

    She was about to kill them until they handed Crane over. And her job description...a psychopaths dream.

  • Bigby's eaten thousands of people, and was without a doubt more murderous than Mary in his prime, yet he's able to change his ways. Woody was regarded as a hero, yet we see him as a violent drunkard. Grendel is rather peaceful when unprovoked, only seeking space and distance.

    You still choose your actions. No matter how many voices you have in your head telling you to kill someone, you still do it with choice.

    Piggs posted: »

    How do you know that Bloody Mary chooses to be evil? If you were to look at her fable, it seems that she has little choice but to be evil. I

  • If it was up to her, she would of killed them both then took Crane. It was the Crooked Man that spared them, not Mary. Also a true psychopath can hold down a job (usually better than a sociopath).

    Fizzdar posted: »

    Again, simply doing her job. If she was a true "psychopath" she'd of kill them then.

  • But it was up to her. She could of shot Snow in the face and Bigby in the head and taken Crane right then and there.

    Crooky didn't tell her not to kill Bigby beforehand, noted that he has to give her the blessing not to take his life.

    If it was up to her, she would of killed them both then took Crane. It was the Crooked Man that spared them, not Mary. Also a true psychopath can hold down a job (usually better than a sociopath).

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