Is there a "canon" story in this game?

As it is a prequel (not sure how long apart the game and comics are), is it possbile that anything you do in the game conflicts with the comic? If not, is there still some sort of canon where certain choices are the "right" ones? From what i read the game IS canon to the comics but i was wondering is, what choices are CANON if any.

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  • I think the point was to make it not conflict with the comic, and so far nothing I've seen has, except maybe The reason for Flycatcher working for the Dums Nd then the business office

  • I was thinking about it too to be honest. The game is kinda-based on comic story, which you can read = see "right" choices. I think TT made the game that way it doesnt really matter (for the comic sequel) what you do in prequel. That's how is usualy goes when you making prequal game based on one-lined story. Logicaly, you cant make choise that would affect the comic sequel.

  • Several things already don't match the comics. Mostly details about the characters and their personalities.

  • For real? What do you read? (seriously, I dont know exact name of the comic)

    xChryst posted: »

    Several things already don't match the comics. Mostly details about the characters and their personalities.

  • The comic is called Fables.

    And yes, for real. One glaring difference is Bigby himself.

    RCS339 posted: »

    For real? What do you read? (seriously, I dont know exact name of the comic)

  • Well I have to say I like the game Bigby better personally, trough I agree with you.

    xChryst posted: »

    The comic is called Fables. And yes, for real. One glaring difference is Bigby himself.

  • Game Bigby is certainly more relatable at least.

    Well I have to say I like the game Bigby better personally, trough I agree with you.

  • I dont think he's that different.

    xChryst posted: »

    The comic is called Fables. And yes, for real. One glaring difference is Bigby himself.

  • He's a tougher and more well spoken in the comics in my opinion.

    KCohere posted: »

    I dont think he's that different.

  • From what I've read so far of the comics, he really isn't that different. I can't help but read all of his lines in Adam Harrington's voice, and I don't see much of a difference. If anything, he might be a tad smarter in the comics.

    KCohere posted: »

    I dont think he's that different.

  • I think the only thing that sort of bothered me was Toad. Assuming this one is supposed to be the one from "The Wind in the Willows" (I'm pretty sure that's what the book of fables entry said, right?), we've seen him in the comics as a more typical depiction of the character. With powdered wig and being all high energy and whatnot.

    xChryst posted: »

    The comic is called Fables. And yes, for real. One glaring difference is Bigby himself.

  • In the comics, Bigby's natural state isn't a put upon, self pitying, hot tempered prick. He's a prick in other ways. He is not only competent at his job, he is brilliant and always on top of things.

    His transformations are completely at-will and not because he gets pissed. His sense of smell is strong enough that he can identify owners of blood. With regards to Snow, it's even stronger and can constantly tell where she is and even her moods.

    I can understand the changes in personality. Fables has the advantage of only having one writer, hence one voice. Non creater-owned comics with ever changing writers will naturally not be completely consistent in their characterizations. This game is written by other people. The discrepancies in Bigby's abilities are major, however. No way comics Bigby would be this befuddled . (Unless he's already solved it in the first episode and just stringing everyone along.)

    xChryst posted: »

    The comic is called Fables. And yes, for real. One glaring difference is Bigby himself.

  • edited July 2014

    Not sure if it's completely fair to criticize a difference in attitude when you're the one controlling how Bigby reacts in the game. The way I play Bigby, he is more calm and collected. Where are you getting the his self pitying aspect from? I don't really get that. Also, I don't think Bigby's anger in the game has anything to do with his ability to transform or not. In the Jersey Devil fight, he activated his wolf-like abilities right away.

    I agree with you on the fact that the comic version of Bigby probably would have figured everything out by now though.

    xChryst posted: »

    In the comics, Bigby's natural state isn't a put upon, self pitying, hot tempered prick. He's a prick in other ways. He is not only competen

  • Maybe that's because you have to play the game as him. You got to decide what he should do.

    xChryst posted: »

    In the comics, Bigby's natural state isn't a put upon, self pitying, hot tempered prick. He's a prick in other ways. He is not only competen

  • edited July 2014

    That's the thing, depending on choice he appears put upon, angsty, or hot tempered. Depending on what appeals to you, this makes him immediately likable, but aren't really what I remember comics Bigby to normally be like. Just to be clear, I am not criticising so much as elaborating on my observations. Like I said, I get it. And I'm ok with it.

    His transformations are always presented as a manifestation of his rage in the game. Even if the devs say say it actually isn't, the way it's framed and the way Bigby acts screams "Aw yeah, you done pissed him off! Time to wolf out!". The climax of episode 3 is most egregious where, regardless of what you do to Dum, it appears as if Bigby lost control.

    Belan posted: »

    Not sure if it's completely fair to criticize a difference in attitude when you're the one controlling how Bigby reacts in the game. The way

  • edited July 2014

    Maybe once he got to the farm, he's like "Fuck it, I'll wear what I want now."

    No sign of his son in the comics though, if I recall correctly. Although Toad really was nothing more than a cameo, wasn't he? Just some background extra with no lines?

    I think the only thing that sort of bothered me was Toad. Assuming this one is supposed to be the one from "The Wind in the Willows" (I'm pr

  • I dont know about the well spoken part, except maybe he curses slightly less.

    Arrowify posted: »

    He's a tougher and more well spoken in the comics in my opinion.

  • Actually, it's more of the situation that makes him change form. Bigby only changed form when he was either down or fighting Jersey.

    xChryst posted: »

    That's the thing, depending on choice he appears put upon, angsty, or hot tempered. Depending on what appeals to you, this makes him immedia

  • Toad only had one line in the Battle of Fabletown, where he's riding the Cow that jumped over the Moon.

    xChryst posted: »

    Maybe once he got to the farm, he's like "Fuck it, I'll wear what I want now." No sign of his son in the comics though, if I recall correctly. Although Toad really was nothing more than a cameo, wasn't he? Just some background extra with no lines?

  • edited July 2014

    Then why don't you just play him as he is in the comics? As in, more calm and controlled. The way I've been playing Bigby, he doesn't really fit your descriptions at all.

    Again though, in the JD scene Bigby goes wolf-mode without even being angry. As soon as Jersey transforms, Bigby activates his wolf powers because he knows that he needs them. I don't really think he was angry in the Dee and Dum scene either. At least there doesn't seem to be any indication of him being so. As for him maybe losing control in that scene, I think his actions were reasonable considering he was getting hammered by shotgun shells. I'm sure Bigby from the comics would do the same thing. I mean... what other options were there really?

    I guess I'm not trying to say that there aren't any differences, but I think Telltale has kept him true to the comics for the most part.

    xChryst posted: »

    That's the thing, depending on choice he appears put upon, angsty, or hot tempered. Depending on what appeals to you, this makes him immedia

  • The way I see it, the game has already irreversibly deviated from the comic canon. Why? Well, the first five issues, which establish the Fables universe in the first place, are enough to say this. First and foremost, Bigby remarks on how he hasn't had an interesting or exciting career as Fabletown sheriff. Which doesn't sit well with me, considering this whole Crooked Man business has been both. Secondly, King Cole and Snow both express doubt at whether or not Bigby is suitable for the job of Fabletown Sheriff- as if neither have ever witnessed Bigby doing his work. I think the most logical explanation is that maybe however this Crooked Man thing ends, maybe Snow decides to cover it up and therefore they never speak of it again or something. Otherwise, some of the dialogue in the comics will make no sense.

    Secondly, there are the character relations. Bigby and Snow, in particular. Their relationship in the comics starts out as almost complete strangers- they take time to warm up to one another as if they've never worked before and their relationship is a lot more formal. It's a lot warmer in the game, so I can't really see how they are going to revert it to the state it is in the comics. Of course, the comics are set several decades after the game and a lot can happen in this many years, but still. I don't really see Bigby and Snow from the game becoming Bigby and Snow from the comic.

    As for the characters themselves- someone has already mentioned above. Bigby seems somewhat more intelligent in the comics, also colder, calmer and more collected. But again, a lot of things can change in that gap between the game and the comics. Therefore, the way I see it, if you don't play Bigby as a total douche, his personality can totally be within the "canon" comics. Most of his dialogue is quite similar to what comic Bigby might say and Adam Harrington's voice is perfect for the role too. As for Snow- her personality in the first episode is drastically different from Snow in the first issue of the comics. The game does develop her slowly towards her comics self, but not enough, as of yet. Also, I just don't find her voice fitting for the comics character. I tried reading the lines with that voice in my head and it just doesn't fit. Might just be me, though.

    Overall, I'd say we should wait for the fifth episode, see what it brings and how it ends. Then we can judge how it fits into the overall canon. Unless, of course, they decide to make a Season 2. In the meantime, you should just play Bigby as YOU feel to be right, as it's gonna deviate slightly from the comics if you care to look at ALL the little details.

  • 2 weeks of investigating is very short for 200 years of being sheriff. That ain't exciting or interesting. Snow is extremely pissed at Bigby either 6 months or a year and a half after TWAU for disobeying her. Considering the events in TWAU so far and the fact that every so often rewards come Bigby's way, Bigby is gonna take down Crooky's criminal organization in a way Snow doesn't like. Bigby's senses are a bit downgraded. Snow isn't as cold as in the beginning of the comics, but she does get there by the end of episode 3 in which she takes on the entire governance of Fabletown. I'm guessing you didn't read the Cinderella spin-offs. If you look bit by bit things don't make sense, but looking from a broad view it makes more sense.

    All in all I do think there is a way to play fully canon, and that is what I'm attempting in my playthroughs.

    The way I see it, the game has already irreversibly deviated from the comic canon. Why? Well, the first five issues, which establish the Fab

  • JenniferJennifer Moderator

    We also don't know the full extent of the Snow situation yet. It's possible a further spell could have masked her scent or maybe she wasn't even in Fabletown at the time of the murder. She could have been far enough away that Bigby didn't smell her, so he thought she was dead (remember, Snow did show up long afterward). It's also possible the glamour made Lily smell like Snow. I doubt Crane would have wanted her to smell like a troll. ;)

    xChryst posted: »

    In the comics, Bigby's natural state isn't a put upon, self pitying, hot tempered prick. He's a prick in other ways. He is not only competen

  • edited July 2014

    Lily used the same brand of perfume as Snow. That's how she smelled like Snow for Crane.

    Bigby's thing has nothing to do with perfumes.

    If the glamour somehow copies Snow's natural musk, I'd imagine Bigby would wonder why there's more than one Snow running around before the murders even happened.

    Edit: If Snow was out of range, then Bigby would know when she gets in range, yes? I would think this range is farther than a few feet away. As in why is Bigby surprised when Snow walked in that interrogation room.

    Jennifer posted: »

    We also don't know the full extent of the Snow situation yet. It's possible a further spell could have masked her scent or maybe she wasn't

  • I disagree with the point that they seemed like strangers. I'd say they had a very good, but strictly professional, camaraderie. Exactly like two people who have worked with each other for a very long time but never really hung out outside of work.

    The way I see it, the game has already irreversibly deviated from the comic canon. Why? Well, the first five issues, which establish the Fab

  • I have noticed that Bigby is considerably weaker in the game. In the comics he's the strongest Fable in Fabletown.

    Also Snow is considerably more innocent but it looks like that's changing as of episode 4.

    KCohere posted: »

    I dont think he's that different.

  • I recall Bigby mentioning in the comics that he has completely memorized Snow's scent. Even if she changes perfumes or anything he still knows where she is.

    Bigby's abilities have taken a huge nerf in the game. I guess it had to be done so the game would actually have some mystery but there's that.

    Jennifer posted: »

    We also don't know the full extent of the Snow situation yet. It's possible a further spell could have masked her scent or maybe she wasn't

  • There is a way to play in a way that is 100% canon to the comics. There are several ways to figure out the canon. I'll edit this post several times.

    1. You always choose Pimp as prime suspect in episode 1.
    2. You arrest Dee in episode 1.
    3. You trash Georgie's club and smoke the Huff & Puff
    4. You tell Beast the truth
    5. You tell Beauty to open every door and say that you could kick down the door.
    6. Go to Crane's first, than Tweedles, and lastly Trip Trap.
    7. Smash Dee with bottle, and burn him with cigar.
    8. Kick down Greenleaf's door.
    9. Burn the tree.
    10. Kill Dum.
    11. Stop Beauty from reaching the phone.
    12. Go to Lucky Pawn first.
    13. Slam the Butcher and accuse him.
    14. Tell him that he had it coming.
    15. Send everyone that doesn't have a glamour to The Farm.
    16. Say that you don't have time for this to Tiny Tim.
    17. Listen to the conversation for a while before kicking in the door.
    18. Threaten the Crooked Man.
    19. Attempt to get both.
    20. Leave Georgie to suffer.
    21. Kill the Crooked Man
    22. Tell Snow you understand.
    23. Growl
    24. Accept TJ's gift for Snow.
    25. Go back to the Woodlands
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