SHE probably was HER (EP5 Spoilers)
I'm sceptical with the "We never actually met Faith"-Theory. I think there are enough hints to imply, Faith in Ep1 actually was Faith, and was later glamoured as Narissa. Hints i found for thir are:
- Giving Faith the money, it is later revealed, it lands in Georgies safe. Why should Narissa doing this when she is glamoured?
- Swineheart still wants to run some strange tests on Faiths head, implying something is wrong with it.
- Faiths body has been never found. A possible glamour-token could still be missing.
- The last lines of the game are heavily implying Narissa and Faith are the same charakters. If you decide to let her go, the last line is "See you around, Wolf". The same salut, Faith gives you in episode 1.
- Asking the mirror about Faiths body gives you the "those lips are sealed" answer. How does the curse still holds up if the ribbon has been detached?
Those are my toughts. What are you thinking?
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You should edit the title to make it more ambiguous so people who haven't played the episode can't get an idea.
Maybe "Maybe SHE was actually HER (Ep5 Spoilers)" and put a spoiler tag. I'm not a moderator, but a mod probably will change it if you don't.
I really really hope that it's Faith rather than Narissa. I like her a lot better.
My theory stays with ep1 Faith was really Nerissa, and then Faith died from what we seen.
In the end of Season, you see the real Nerissa, not Faith.
If it was Faith in the end, so how you explain the head rip off on the stairs in ep1?That could be Nerissa's head but don't explain the fact that the Faith head was actually a glamour.
So in my opinion, it was Nerissa all this time and we never met Faith before.
I think that Nerissa through the entire story was Faith glamoured. I don't think we ever met Nerissa, I believe that in the story that we were told by "Nerissa" at the very end was true but switch the names "Faith told Georgie" with "Nerissa told Georgie" and to end the entire prostitute game with the Puddin and Pie, Faith did this entire act to get it closed down and to get back at Georgie/Crooked Man for killing her friends, the last straw.
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Well thought!
"Able to see her"
You mean able to see Faith's body? I don't think so. As TomMartinHagen said:
"The curse was still in place because Vivian was alive - it doesn't matter if the girl is dead or not. In Ep2 you can ask the Mirror about Lily, and it'll still say 'once again, these lips are sealed', even though Lily's body is in the Business Office."
Well, I had some time to think about it now and I realized this slipped my mind completely. Thanks for clearing this up.
Oh my god this is more complex than Bioshock Infinite's ending. I just can't wrap my brain around it.
Ok, those points seem legit, despite #1, which doesn't explain why the money lands in Georgies safe. This was obviously no business visit, since Georgie already killed Faith, he hardly would expect her to show up and pay debths. So why would an unglamoured Narissa even give it to the person, who killed her friend?
It seems more likely Georgie looted her body.
2 important things that suggests we never met Nerissa and it was actually Faith all along - Faith is a master of disguise, it isn't first time she has done this but this time she used a glamour tube as the cloak is not a glamour as some suggest here. The other point is photos of Crane, Tweedle Dee reveals that she took something form his boss (The Crooked Man), those where the photos he probably used to keep Crane on his leash, they only searched for them in her place so they where aware that it was Faith who had them, later those photos appear at Open Arms right before you meet Nerissa, Im pretty sure she is the one who plants them there before you get there, she might be that cop guy who is leaving the Open Arms once you arrive there.
To expand on TomMartinHagen's point, I think he means that Nerissa was supposed to collect the money all along as she was supposed to be at the Woodsman's place. As it stands, Nerissa glamoured as Faith arrived, leading the player (and therefore Bigby) to the conclusion that we were dealing with Faith when in actual fact it was Nerissa.
Nerissa drops the disguise and then goes back to the Pudding N Pie to deposit the funds. Georgie has no idea what has gone on, and has no reason to believe anything has gone sour because a) Faith is already dead and b) he's got his money.
How doesn't it ring any alarm bells on the crooked man when obiously someone of his henchmen observed the surprisingly well and alive Faith, talking with the Serhiff of the Town at the front of Toads house, when she was already supposed to be death, as the photos in the steel mill are showing?
It works if Georgie made Nerissa cover for Faith's appointment with the Woodsman. So that no one would notice she was dead which would help influence Nerissa's actions later with bringing Faith's head to Bigsby.
I think Nerissa was Faith and Faith was Nerissa. Faith (Nerissa) says at the beginning something like ''it'd be bad to show up without money'' which could be Nerissa trying to warn Bigby pre-death. She does try to decline Bigby's help. Also, why is her coat at the woodsmans, with the letter to Lawrence? Faith didn't know she was in danger. It could mean Faith at the end, glamoured as Nerissa, ditching her coat and letter, and leaving Fabletown. The money ends up in Georgie's safe because he loots Faith (Nerissa) maybe?
Are glamours always connected to the tubes? Could removing Nerissa's ribbon unglamour her? It seems weird she still wears it, I know I'd take it off first chance.
And finally, i forgot exactly what he says, but Bufkin's quote is very important imo. It added alot of context to the situation.
You all who say that it was Nerissa in the end, could you explain how did the mirror not show her when her ribbon was taken off? The ending hints us that Nerissa was actually Faith all the time. And the fact that ribbon was the reason that mirror couldn't show someone wearing it and Faith could not be seen actually convices me about Nerissa being Faith. + The story of Donkeyskin just gives us more evidence.