What you want in Season 2

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  • I did not know that Willingham confirmed Woody as a Tourist...

    Ok what you are saying makes more sense actually :P

  • edited January 2015

    The thing is though, Tourists were set up to keep track/tabs on Fables outside of Fabletown and the Farm.

    So I'm not so sure it would be plausible to have them in game if Bigby will be investigating within NYC Fabletown (since if that's the case, Bigby can just investigate on his own, like in Season 1), unless in episode 1 Bigby is in Fabletown, and episode 2 he heads out into mundy world etc and so forth.

    Bigby can't go to the Farm, so it would need to be other characters who would need to go to the farm if this happens (though, personally, I want the game to still focus on Bigby, so I'd rather have the Farm setting for a DLC, not as in main game).

    The reason I want Nerissa (Faith) to be the main focus of Season 2 is that I want her story to be closed off, to be given a proper ending. We never got a proper explanation of what really happened with her in Season 1, and only a cliffhanger ending (though we have lots of theories and speculations, nothing is confirmed).

    And since it's most likely that Snow will be relegated to being a side-character (with her new position as Deputy Mayor and all), I think it makes sense to focus on her.

    If she only makes appearence, but is not the focus, I'm not sure there will be enough room in the game to finish her storyline properly with characters from Season 1, and if also new fan-favourite characters from comics are added in (whatever the case, I want her storyline to be resolved be the end of Season 2. I don't want it to be dragging into Season 3 as well - if TWAU lasts that long) .

    Perhaps what I want to see is a still Bigby-centric TWAU game but scenario which throws Bigby in at the deep end (while still resolving Nerissa/Faith storyline), and I think my other Fabletown setting works really well with that.

    Schornforce posted: »

    I was thinking I'd want something like this too-- with the tourists, especially... but there's no reason Fabletown NY can't be involved... p

  • There can be several reasons why Woody doesn't appear in the comics, but here's my theory.

    Woody worked for Bigby as the Tourist for years, but one day he went AWOL (like a soldier in an army), abondoning his Tourist duties.

    His reasons may be

    1. He had a severe argument with Bigby, and decided he wanted to leave.
    2. He didn't have an argument with Bigby, but got tired of his life as Tourist and decided to try something else, and left.

    Hence Bigby's quote to Jack and why he's so mad at Woody in Great Fables Crossover.

    HazzatheMan posted: »

    I did not know that Willingham confirmed Woody as a Tourist... Ok what you are saying makes more sense actually :P

  • I swear Woody is mentioned as being in a bad way or dead earlier in the series though... I might be wrong but my gut is telling me that someone mentions that.

    CoolGuyJ posted: »

    There can be several reasons why Woody doesn't appear in the comics, but here's my theory. Woody worked for Bigby as the Tourist for year

  • When is Woody said to be a tourist?

    CoolGuyJ posted: »

    There can be several reasons why Woody doesn't appear in the comics, but here's my theory. Woody worked for Bigby as the Tourist for year

  • Check CoolGuy's links above; apparently Willingham himself confirmed it...

    Poogers555 posted: »

    When is Woody said to be a tourist?

  • Well that is really interesting, now I want TellTale to make a season 2 and explain Woody some more.

    HazzatheMan posted: »

    Check CoolGuy's links above; apparently Willingham himself confirmed it...

  • edited January 2015

    I really don't think the ending to Season 1 is a cliffhanger, it gives you just enough answers and the rest is simply for the players to decide, it doesn't need to be confirmed, it would ruin the ambiguity for the ending.

    CoolGuyJ posted: »

    The thing is though, Tourists were set up to keep track/tabs on Fables outside of Fabletown and the Farm. So I'm not so sure it would be

  • Yeah same, even if Season 2 is a direct sequil to Season 1, I already know if you choose to follow her when you turn the corner she will just be gone

    J-Master posted: »

    I really don't think the ending to Season 1 is a cliffhanger, it gives you just enough answers and the rest is simply for the players to decide, it doesn't need to be confirmed, it would ruin the ambiguity for the ending.

  • That's what I am preparing myself for; but it would be nice to get some proper closure...

    Poogers555 posted: »

    Yeah same, even if Season 2 is a direct sequil to Season 1, I already know if you choose to follow her when you turn the corner she will just be gone

  • I thought they only mentioned him once in Great Fables Crossover (by Jack and Bigby) and mention him a little bit more in 1001 Nights of Snowfall (in Bigby's origin story, "The Runt"). I don't really remember him being mentioned in other parts (I could be wrong though).

    But I think wikipedia (although it is known to have many faults in general) keeps pretty good track/update of Fables stuff, so I think his whereabouts being "unknown" would be right.

    HazzatheMan posted: »

    I swear Woody is mentioned as being in a bad way or dead earlier in the series though... I might be wrong but my gut is telling me that someone mentions that.

  • Season 2 might clear things up... If TellTale decide to announce it!!

    CoolGuyJ posted: »

    I thought they only mentioned him once in Great Fables Crossover (by Jack and Bigby) and mention him a little bit more in 1001 Nights of Sno

  • edited January 2015

    Yeah, a proper closure is what I would like to have (and I'm not really convinced that they did that with Faith's storyline)..

    HazzatheMan posted: »

    That's what I am preparing myself for; but it would be nice to get some proper closure...

  • I blame the whole rewrite after Ep. 1; if the story had stayed constant from the start then things might've turned out different...

    CoolGuyJ posted: »

    Yeah, a proper closure is what I would like to have (and I'm not really convinced that they did that with Faith's storyline)..

  • There was a rewrite? Anyone know why?

    HazzatheMan posted: »

    I blame the whole rewrite after Ep. 1; if the story had stayed constant from the start then things might've turned out different...

  • The story of Ep. 1 followed an actual serial killer, Bigby would be framed for the murders and Brannigan would be hunting him down, plus the Mundy cops would discover Fabletown's existence...

    It was rewritten cuz that entire plot went against the comic canon; in the comics they say the last time a Mundy discovered Fabletown was back in the 1940's...

    Also I think Snow was to remain dead, at least until the end of the season I think (don't quote me on that)

    Schornforce posted: »

    There was a rewrite? Anyone know why?

  • edited January 2015

    Ah. Yes. That would be problematic. The file in the Tweedles' office on Brannigan did intrigue me. I wonder if that's a holdover from the initial story. Thank you, Hazzatheman! :)

    I also recall Cryer was to be Bigby's sidekick until they decided 'lone wolf' fit him better. I do hope Cryer reappears, though. Sounds like a fun character idea.

    HazzatheMan posted: »

    The story of Ep. 1 followed an actual serial killer, Bigby would be framed for the murders and Brannigan would be hunting him down, plus the

  • Cryer was meant to be The Boy That Cried Wolf I think...

    Schornforce posted: »

    Ah. Yes. That would be problematic. The file in the Tweedles' office on Brannigan did intrigue me. I wonder if that's a holdover from th

  • He was also going to be Deputy

    HazzatheMan posted: »

    Cryer was meant to be The Boy That Cried Wolf I think...

  • The realist

    It to exist.

  • Hmm...I really don't want there to be a New Protagonist, Bigby's My God, and yeh, Winter would be cool, If anyone else would be the Protagonist In My opinion I'd like Snow, More of Bigby's true form would be awesome, and just much much more! :O

  • edited January 2015

    I would really like them to include the ability to hide things from your investigation from Snow.....I know that you COULD, but information you chose not to disclose either came out either way somehow or had no impact on the actual outcome of the plot. There are SO many facets that Bigby keeps separate from Snow in the comic (I have lost count of how many other fables has Bigby killed when duty calls), and I think that could add a whole other dimension to the game play elements. Sure, I played it nice my first way through Season 1. But then I went back and was a complete bastard (ie- killing the Tweedle brother, beating on Beast, killing the Crooked Man)...And....To be honest I wasn't all that pleased with how it played out....The end result was the same. In any case I guess that's why I am eagerly waiting for Season 2....To see if it really does affect things. Plus, this is completely irrelevant, but how cool would it be to have control of how wolfed out you want to be when intimidating people.....I kind of pouted that they controlled that....

  • Totally agree with the Snow aspect. She seems so much more likable in the comics.....A lot of times I felt like I was moronically yelling at the TV for her to pull the stick out of her ass and cut the holier than thou attitude....Maybe that is just me though.

    HazzatheMan posted: »

    I agree with developing Gren, Holly and Nerissa etc I want Woody to come back as well cuz in the comics during The Great Fables Crossover

  • To be fair, I feel they controlled the wolfing out at least partially to have the climactic battle at the end. It would just be overkill to have giant Bigby against, say Beast or something... and if left to me, he'd be giant Bigby ALL the time. ;)

    BlackDahlia posted: »

    I would really like them to include the ability to hide things from your investigation from Snow.....I know that you COULD, but information

  • Another route Telltale could take-- have another game set in the Fables universe, but NOT a sequel to TWAU. The Tourists and/or Cinderella could be essential there. Just a thought. Maybe in time, whatever storyline is cooked up for such an idea could converge with TWAU, though.

  • Mowgli would be such a GREAT add in! He was such an interesting character in the comics! Fantastic idea. Give this guy a bloody mary! I salute you good sir/lady!

    CoolGuyJ posted: »

    I know this idea might not bode well with some (if not most) people, but has anybody considered maybe the following? Storyline: Bigby is

  • Okaaayyy I guess your right. You have deflated me good sir.

    Schornforce posted: »

    To be fair, I feel they controlled the wolfing out at least partially to have the climactic battle at the end. It would just be overkill to have giant Bigby against, say Beast or something... and if left to me, he'd be giant Bigby ALL the time.

  • Sorry! But I do like your idea for Bigby to decide to keep things to himself and having those decisions matter. A lying option could also be interesting.

    BlackDahlia posted: »

    Okaaayyy I guess your right. You have deflated me good sir.

  • holier than thou attitude

    Hahahaha!!! That's a good description! :XD

    BlackDahlia posted: »

    Totally agree with the Snow aspect. She seems so much more likable in the comics.....A lot of times I felt like I was moronically yelling at

  • Tbh though; in Fables 145 Snow mentions to Cindy that she knows about what she does; that tells me that Bigby told Snow about aspects of his job... Snow probably knows that Bigby has killed other Fables, but 'understands' why they are dead....?

    Schornforce posted: »

    Sorry! But I do like your idea for Bigby to decide to keep things to himself and having those decisions matter. A lying option could also be interesting.

  • Ah, but wouldn't that be after she and Bigby were married for awhile? Of course, they'd probably 'get' each other more and thus more secrets would be shared at that point.

    HazzatheMan posted: »

    Tbh though; in Fables 145 Snow mentions to Cindy that she knows about what she does; that tells me that Bigby told Snow about aspects of his job... Snow probably knows that Bigby has killed other Fables, but 'understands' why they are dead....?

  • If you like the idea, then please click "Like" on my post. :)

    (Oh, and I am a guy).

    BlackDahlia posted: »

    Mowgli would be such a GREAT add in! He was such an interesting character in the comics! Fantastic idea. Give this guy a bloody mary! I salute you good sir/lady!

  • edited January 2015

    Eh, from what we ended up getting, I don't know if I would have liked Snow being dead for the rest of the season, and I actually kind of prefer the "who controls Fabletown and who keeps the fables safe?" storyline, instead of a standard serial killer plot where the main detective character is framed and hunted down by the police.

    HazzatheMan posted: »

    The story of Ep. 1 followed an actual serial killer, Bigby would be framed for the murders and Brannigan would be hunting him down, plus the

  • #Don'tKillWoody

    HazzatheMan posted: »

    I agree with developing Gren, Holly and Nerissa etc I want Woody to come back as well cuz in the comics during The Great Fables Crossover

  • I guess I just get a little irritated when she's mad at ME for ripping a guys throat out that has: A) Assaulted an officer of the law for NO earthly reason other than chasing him from a crime scene B) Withheld prevalent information on a murder case C) SHOT me and others at Lily's funeral in the middle of a mundy constructions site (gunshots in an open area HELLO), D) Shot me multiple times and to FORCIBLY take Crane from my custody...And she is going to sit there and tel me that it was "unjustified"....Give me fricking break. What in the HELL did she not understand about that? Grrrr. Okay,,,,,Rant over. lol

    HazzatheMan posted: »

    Tbh though; in Fables 145 Snow mentions to Cindy that she knows about what she does; that tells me that Bigby told Snow about aspects of his job... Snow probably knows that Bigby has killed other Fables, but 'understands' why they are dead....?

  • It's cuz it's Bigby! He has killed for no reason in the past, plus it seems she has never seen him wolf out before (in the comics, Volume 3, he turns full Wolf and she is in awe) She clearly doesn't want him to turn back to his old ways again, and at the time it seemed as though he was acting on impulse rather than rational thought...

    BlackDahlia posted: »

    I guess I just get a little irritated when she's mad at ME for ripping a guys throat out that has: A) Assaulted an officer of the law for NO

  • Yeah I know. It's a totally valid point. And it does make perfect sense....Maybe what I really want is an option to litterally say, "You know what Snow? Fuck. Off." lols. No but seriously, you are correct that is EXACTLY why she did and said what she said....However, do you think that some of that was also because she was worried about actually receiving the Deputy Mayor job aka selfishness on her part? Now I'm just curious of your opinion. :)

    HazzatheMan posted: »

    It's cuz it's Bigby! He has killed for no reason in the past, plus it seems she has never seen him wolf out before (in the comics, Volume 3,

  • During the Ep. 5 trial (with all the bad choices as well) I soo wanted to lose it at everyone and quit Fabletown completely. Bigby tells Snow that he doesn't care what she thinks of him (that clearly shocks her in a sad way, you can see the sadness on her face) and dares to challenge the higher-ups about his position as Sheriff.

    I think it's cuz Snow never really knows what Bigby has to do as Sheriff; in the comics she doesn't seem to care about his conduct (then again he's quite tame in the comics) So she doesn't know what to expect, there is the added stress of becoming Deputy Mayor, but she assumes that Bigby wolfing out is him losing control, when actually he knows what he is doing but might be living in the moment a little too much...

    Snow just doesn't want Bigby to lose all of his hard earned progress at reforming himself. You could argue it's because of an unrealised desire to be near him, or simply so that she doesn't have to address the Sheriff as a problem to solve...

    A similar situation occurs in Fables Volume 13; I won't say what it is in case you haven't read it, but Snow questions Bigby's actions as losing control after so long, but when he tells her that it was a dark influence (which is the truth btw) she defends him in an instant.

    BlackDahlia posted: »

    Yeah I know. It's a totally valid point. And it does make perfect sense....Maybe what I really want is an option to litterally say, "You kno

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