So today I got chased out of the woods by an angered mama deer. I accidentally stumbled upon a newborn deer, and it took off running. Then a few moments later a full sized deer comes out of the brush and starts coming at me. I took off running, I was lucky to get away. Do not fuck with deer.
I think calling the procedure "evil" is going a bit overboard, and I feel that people who are against circumcision make a bigger deal out of it than need be. I get the fact that the procedure isn't necessary, but there are still minor benefits to having the surgery, be they minor health benefits or an aesthetic preference. Of course there is going to be a level of pain involved with the surgery, but I don't think this is a big deal, and the baby will soon forget it anyway. Aside from keeping a newborn from the pain of the procedure, I don't know why anyone would be so strongly against circumcision. Yes, nerve endings are lost through the procedure, but there hasn't been any solid proof that this has any sort of meaningful impact on the male. Circumcision in general doesn't really have any impact on quality of life. Perhaps I shouldn't speak for all guys here, but I really don't think most circumcised guys care either way.
The foreskin contains around 20,000 nerve endings and is highly sensitive. Foreskin also protects the genitals from being overexposed, which… more causes an increased lack of sensitivity and feeling there. Circumcision runs the risk of infection and creates a scar. Circumcision is an old routine that is not needed anymore in our society; our ancestors didn't feel the need to remove a part of themselves, so why should we? As for religious views, they say God wants us to circumcise our boys, despite studies being done to prove that they still feel the pain of the procedure, even though they might not remember it. Why would God, all loving as He is, want His children to feel pain and alter the body they were given in His eye of holy creation? Not to mention the fact that the infant can't decide for itself whether or not it wants part of its body to be amputated. In my opinion, that’s a decision to be made by the owner himself, as he has to live with i… [view original content]
So today I got chased out of the woods by an angered mama deer. I accidentally stumbled upon a newborn deer, and it took off running. Then a… more few moments later a full sized deer comes out of the brush and starts coming at me. I took off running, I was lucky to get away. Do not fuck with deer.
I think calling the procedure "evil" is going a bit overboard, and I feel that people who are against circumcision make a bigger deal out of it than need be
Yeah, I guess that was the wrong word to use, but it seemed to describe my distaste for the procedure pretty well at the time, and I think that the "big deal" people against circumcision make is well-deserved. Another word that would fit is savage. These aren't just opinions I'm relying on, they're facts. What I think is so wrong about it is that they don't have any choice. The problem is only partly the surgery and more that it is a permanent alteration that cannot be reversed, and the owner has no say in such alterations made to his body.
there are still minor benefits to having the surgery, be they minor health benefits or an aesthetic preference
Of course if they need the surgery due to medical issues such as phimosis or paraphimosis then that's a different story. And I suppose if you like the appearance of it, all the power to you. But to remove it at infancy because you deem it more appropriate without knowing if he would want to keep it later on in life is wrong.
I think calling the procedure "evil" is going a bit overboard, and I feel that people who are against circumcision make a bigger deal out of… more it than need be. I get the fact that the procedure isn't necessary, but there are still minor benefits to having the surgery, be they minor health benefits or an aesthetic preference. Of course there is going to be a level of pain involved with the surgery, but I don't think this is a big deal, and the baby will soon forget it anyway. Aside from keeping a newborn from the pain of the procedure, I don't know why anyone would be so strongly against circumcision. Yes, nerve endings are lost through the procedure, but there hasn't been any solid proof that this has any sort of meaningful impact on the male. Circumcision in general doesn't really have any impact on quality of life. Perhaps I shouldn't speak for all guys here, but I really don't think most circumcised guys care either way.
"Savage" also seems quite harsh. We're seriously talking about a pretty minor thing here. I get the argument that a guy should have a say over what happens with his own body, but the procedure is debatably better to do at a younger age, as the guy would then obviously quickly forget the procedure ever happening. Besides that, I truly do not believe that circumcised males in general really give a shit over the fact that they grew up without a foreskin, because again, the surgery has essentially no impact on quality of life what so ever. My life would be exactly the same had I not been circumcised. For all these outcries of "mutilation", savageness, ect, my life has not been negatively affected. So if the parents make a personal decision to have their son circumcised for any potential benefit, I say more power to them.
I think calling the procedure "evil" is going a bit overboard, and I feel that people who are against circumcision make a bigger deal out of… more it than need be
Yeah, I guess that was the wrong word to use, but it seemed to describe my distaste for the procedure pretty well at the time, and I think that the "big deal" people against circumcision make is well-deserved. Another word that would fit is savage. These aren't just opinions I'm relying on, they're facts. What I think is so wrong about it is that they don't have any choice. The problem is only partly the surgery and more that it is a permanent alteration that cannot be reversed, and the owner has no say in such alterations made to his body.
there are still minor benefits to having the surgery, be they minor health benefits or an aesthetic preference
Of course if they need the surgery due to medical issues such as phimosis or paraphimosis then that's a different story… [view original content]
Actually, more and more European physicians are starting to stand behind their anti-circumcision stance, and even call circumcision a form of child abuse. The only countries where circumcision is fiercely practiced are those where Jewish and Muslim cultures are prevalent. Even Canada and the US have started taking up European ideals, and are circumcising less males after being taught about the true advantages and disadvantages of circumcision instead of relying on tradition and aesthetic reasons.
the procedure is debatably better to do at a younger age, as the guy would then obviously quickly forget the procedure ever happening
Obviously you're right. But why have to go through with an unnecessary procedure at all if, when managed correctly, uncircumcised males notice virtually no difference while still keeping nerves essential for pleasure? You may not think others care about it, but a large portion of circumcised males actually resent not having the choice and they wish their parents hadn't made such a decision or them.
the surgery has essentially no impact on quality of life what so ever
Circumcision does remove up to half of the skin on a penis, so fine-touch neuroreceptors, which are highly responsive to light touch, are lost. When these 20,000 nerve endings are removed, the ones remaining are further from the surface, and therefore are less responsive. Not an enormous impact, of course, but there still is one.
For all these outcries of "mutilation", savageness, ect, my life has not been negatively affected
That's you. There are males, however, whose lives have been negatively affected, whether physically or psychologically.
So if the parents make a personal decision to have their son circumcised for any potential benefit, I say more power to them
I disagree. The keyword here is "potential". Nearly all of any potential issues caused by not circumcising are those that occur later on in life, not during infancy. If such an issue arises, I don't see why he can't just go through with the procedure then, when he's under full control over what will happen to his body.
"Savage" also seems quite harsh. We're seriously talking about a pretty minor thing here. I get the argument that a guy should have a say ov… moreer what happens with his own body, but the procedure is debatably better to do at a younger age, as the guy would then obviously quickly forget the procedure ever happening. Besides that, I truly do not believe that circumcised males in general really give a shit over the fact that they grew up without a foreskin, because again, the surgery has essentially no impact on quality of life what so ever. My life would be exactly the same had I not been circumcised. For all these outcries of "mutilation", savageness, ect, my life has not been negatively affected. So if the parents make a personal decision to have their son circumcised for any potential benefit, I say more power to them.
http://www.menshealth.com/health/debate-over-circumcision
Actually, more and more European physicians are starting to stand behind their anti-circumcision stance, and even call circumcision a form of child abuse. The only countries where circumcision is fiercely practiced are those where Jewish and Muslim cultures are prevalent. Even Canada and the US have started taking up European ideals, and are circumcising less males after being taught about the true advantages and disadvantages of circumcision instead of relying on tradition and aesthetic reasons.
That was a pretty quick reply. I actually edited my point on this out of my previous post as I had a feeling that this was going to become its own discussion. I'm not going to argue over what other countries do, unless specifics are brought up on how they feel about the procedure. As far as America goes, the medical field generally isn't for it or against it (from what I've read anyway). This is because again, the procedure is a very minor deal.
It's not just about tradition or aesthetic preferences. There are again, health reasons, even if those health reasons are debatably minor. Personally I would say that helping to potentially protect against STDs is a good cause. I'm assuming you didn't see the article that I edited into my last post, so I'll post it again: http://www.menshealth.com/health/debate-over-circumcision
Obviously you're right. But why have to go through with an unnecessary procedure at all if, when managed correctly, uncircumcised males notice virtually no difference while still keeping nerves essential for pleasure? You may not think others care about it, but a large portion of circumcised males actually resent not having the choice and they wish their parents hadn't made such a decision or them.
One doesn't have to notice the benefits to actually benefit from them, right? Again, there are health reasons.. even convenience reasons. Your point here can actually just be totally flipped around and used against your opinion. A circumcised male doesn't notice any major difference either. Like I said before, it's not as if there is some sort of meaningful impact on the lives of those who have the procedure. I couldn't care less that I was circumcised, because it has had absolutely zero negative effects on my life. Saying that circumcised males have lost nerves essential to pleasure just isn't very true. It's not as if circumcised males can't be sexually aroused, or that they are significantly less sensitive. This is again coming from someone who has actually had this procedure...
I'm sure that there are some circumcised guys out that there that are upset over the decision being made for them, but I think this is just over the idea that a bodily decision was made for them, opposed to specifically having a problem with the actual alteration itself.
Circumcision does remove up to half of the skin on a penis, so fine-touch neuroreceptors, which are highly responsive to light touch, are lost. When these 20,000 nerve endings are removed, the ones remaining are further from the surface, and therefore are less responsive. Not an enormous impact, of course, but there still is one.
Kind of just touched on this point, but I'll just say again that it's such a minor thing that it isn't even worth being upset about. I'm not saying that there is absolutely no impact from having the procedure, only that there isn't anything meaningful. Circumcised males can still be perfectly sexually satisfied..
That's you. There are males, however, whose lives have been negatively affected, whether physically or psychologically.
What are you basing this on? I'm curious. It actually baffles me that someone could actually have a psychological issue from having this procedure. That's just bizarre.
I disagree. The keyword here is "potential". Nearly all of any potential issues caused by not circumcising are those that occur later on in life, not during infancy. If such an issue arises, I don't see why he can't just go through with the procedure then, when he's under full control over what will happen to his body.
If only HIV was reversible. STDs aside, even for the more minor issues, why wait until an issue arises? Prevention is certainly a decent reason for having the procedure, from the standpoint of someone who would have the procedure done for potential health benefits.
Just to clarify here, I understand if you personally wouldn't circumcise your own son. I'm not necessarily for or against the procedure myself. Overall I just don't think people should be up in arms over the procedure, for reasons I have already stated.
The medical field seems to feel the same way
Actually, more and more European physicians are starting to stand behind their anti-cir… morecumcision stance, and even call circumcision a form of child abuse. The only countries where circumcision is fiercely practiced are those where Jewish and Muslim cultures are prevalent. Even Canada and the US have started taking up European ideals, and are circumcising less males after being taught about the true advantages and disadvantages of circumcision instead of relying on tradition and aesthetic reasons.
the procedure is debatably better to do at a younger age, as the guy would then obviously quickly forget the procedure ever happening
Obviously you're right. But why have to go through with an unnecessary procedure at all if, when managed correctly, uncircumcised males notice virtually no difference while still keeping nerves essential for pleasure? You may not think others care a… [view original content]
Silly Salty needs some reading-glasses :P
I'm a Saltlick, my eye translator thing isn't working.....
And I'm pretty sure I never spoke-ill of the mighty Hawkeye XD
Just like you never spoke-ill of the mighty Saltlick :P
A week ago I was in this thrift shop and found this gorgeous dragon patterned shirt on sale for $3.50. I really love dragons and am into Chinese/Japanese cultures (always wanted to visit Japan one day). So I thought I might as well get it, even if it's a little tight on me. Sadly on the first day going out with this on, at a little meal my shirt got caught by some thing and torn it a little by two of the buttons. Going to have to get this fixed now.
A week ago I was in this thrift shop and found this gorgeous dragon patterned shirt on sale for $3.50. I really love dragons and am into Chi… morenese/Japanese cultures (always wanted to visit Japan one day). So I thought I might as well get it, even if it's a little tight on me. Sadly on the first day going out with this on, at a little meal my shirt got caught by some thing and torn it a little by two of the buttons. Going to have to get this fixed now.
A week ago I was in this thrift shop and found this gorgeous dragon patterned shirt on sale for $3.50. I really love dragons and am into Chi… morenese/Japanese cultures (always wanted to visit Japan one day). So I thought I might as well get it, even if it's a little tight on me. Sadly on the first day going out with this on, at a little meal my shirt got caught by some thing and torn it a little by two of the buttons. Going to have to get this fixed now.
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I was pretty much 100% not effected by it. I'm completely fine, but I've heard some people in the Austin area weren't as lucky.
So today I got chased out of the woods by an angered mama deer. I accidentally stumbled upon a newborn deer, and it took off running. Then a few moments later a full sized deer comes out of the brush and starts coming at me. I took off running, I was lucky to get away. Do not fuck with deer.
I think calling the procedure "evil" is going a bit overboard, and I feel that people who are against circumcision make a bigger deal out of it than need be. I get the fact that the procedure isn't necessary, but there are still minor benefits to having the surgery, be they minor health benefits or an aesthetic preference. Of course there is going to be a level of pain involved with the surgery, but I don't think this is a big deal, and the baby will soon forget it anyway. Aside from keeping a newborn from the pain of the procedure, I don't know why anyone would be so strongly against circumcision. Yes, nerve endings are lost through the procedure, but there hasn't been any solid proof that this has any sort of meaningful impact on the male. Circumcision in general doesn't really have any impact on quality of life. Perhaps I shouldn't speak for all guys here, but I really don't think most circumcised guys care either way.
You should have wrestled her. You only get one chance to wrestle a deer, and you missed yours.
What the hell is that thing
You must be Mark's #1 fan. Congrats.
not sure i just created it at random when i was bored so it could be anythang
We have a project due Friday and my teacher just started teaching us about the subject.
Thanks Obama.
Naw im just 1 of his many forum friends
guess who's back
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc6vs-l5dkc
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danny phantom
Yeah, I guess that was the wrong word to use, but it seemed to describe my distaste for the procedure pretty well at the time, and I think that the "big deal" people against circumcision make is well-deserved. Another word that would fit is savage. These aren't just opinions I'm relying on, they're facts. What I think is so wrong about it is that they don't have any choice. The problem is only partly the surgery and more that it is a permanent alteration that cannot be reversed, and the owner has no say in such alterations made to his body.
Of course if they need the surgery due to medical issues such as phimosis or paraphimosis then that's a different story. And I suppose if you like the appearance of it, all the power to you. But to remove it at infancy because you deem it more appropriate without knowing if he would want to keep it later on in life is wrong.
Edit: the image stopped working so i just removed it
Going to see Nightwish again in February with a bunch of friends. We made plans a little early, lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2sd8UMUaIk
"Savage" also seems quite harsh. We're seriously talking about a pretty minor thing here. I get the argument that a guy should have a say over what happens with his own body, but the procedure is debatably better to do at a younger age, as the guy would then obviously quickly forget the procedure ever happening. Besides that, I truly do not believe that circumcised males in general really give a shit over the fact that they grew up without a foreskin, because again, the surgery has essentially no impact on quality of life what so ever. My life would be exactly the same had I not been circumcised. For all these outcries of "mutilation", savageness, ect, my life has not been negatively affected. So if the parents make a personal decision to have their son circumcised for any potential benefit, I say more power to them.
http://www.menshealth.com/health/debate-over-circumcision
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQ27iS1mkuo
I freaking love Hawkeye (and Jeremy Renner).
Hope (Before Age of Ultron): WHY CAN'T THEY KILL HIM ALREADY!? WAIT, WHAT? He's been confirmed for CAP CIVIL WAR!! FUCK!!!
Hope Now: I freaking love Hawkeye
Actually, more and more European physicians are starting to stand behind their anti-circumcision stance, and even call circumcision a form of child abuse. The only countries where circumcision is fiercely practiced are those where Jewish and Muslim cultures are prevalent. Even Canada and the US have started taking up European ideals, and are circumcising less males after being taught about the true advantages and disadvantages of circumcision instead of relying on tradition and aesthetic reasons.
Obviously you're right. But why have to go through with an unnecessary procedure at all if, when managed correctly, uncircumcised males notice virtually no difference while still keeping nerves essential for pleasure? You may not think others care about it, but a large portion of circumcised males actually resent not having the choice and they wish their parents hadn't made such a decision or them.
Circumcision does remove up to half of the skin on a penis, so fine-touch neuroreceptors, which are highly responsive to light touch, are lost. When these 20,000 nerve endings are removed, the ones remaining are further from the surface, and therefore are less responsive. Not an enormous impact, of course, but there still is one.
That's you. There are males, however, whose lives have been negatively affected, whether physically or psychologically.
I disagree. The keyword here is "potential". Nearly all of any potential issues caused by not circumcising are those that occur later on in life, not during infancy. If such an issue arises, I don't see why he can't just go through with the procedure then, when he's under full control over what will happen to his body.
I'm not InGen though XD
That was a pretty quick reply. I actually edited my point on this out of my previous post as I had a feeling that this was going to become its own discussion. I'm not going to argue over what other countries do, unless specifics are brought up on how they feel about the procedure. As far as America goes, the medical field generally isn't for it or against it (from what I've read anyway). This is because again, the procedure is a very minor deal.
It's not just about tradition or aesthetic preferences. There are again, health reasons, even if those health reasons are debatably minor. Personally I would say that helping to potentially protect against STDs is a good cause. I'm assuming you didn't see the article that I edited into my last post, so I'll post it again: http://www.menshealth.com/health/debate-over-circumcision
One doesn't have to notice the benefits to actually benefit from them, right? Again, there are health reasons.. even convenience reasons. Your point here can actually just be totally flipped around and used against your opinion. A circumcised male doesn't notice any major difference either. Like I said before, it's not as if there is some sort of meaningful impact on the lives of those who have the procedure. I couldn't care less that I was circumcised, because it has had absolutely zero negative effects on my life. Saying that circumcised males have lost nerves essential to pleasure just isn't very true. It's not as if circumcised males can't be sexually aroused, or that they are significantly less sensitive. This is again coming from someone who has actually had this procedure...
I'm sure that there are some circumcised guys out that there that are upset over the decision being made for them, but I think this is just over the idea that a bodily decision was made for them, opposed to specifically having a problem with the actual alteration itself.
Kind of just touched on this point, but I'll just say again that it's such a minor thing that it isn't even worth being upset about. I'm not saying that there is absolutely no impact from having the procedure, only that there isn't anything meaningful. Circumcised males can still be perfectly sexually satisfied..
What are you basing this on? I'm curious. It actually baffles me that someone could actually have a psychological issue from having this procedure. That's just bizarre.
If only HIV was reversible. STDs aside, even for the more minor issues, why wait until an issue arises? Prevention is certainly a decent reason for having the procedure, from the standpoint of someone who would have the procedure done for potential health benefits.
Just to clarify here, I understand if you personally wouldn't circumcise your own son. I'm not necessarily for or against the procedure myself. Overall I just don't think people should be up in arms over the procedure, for reasons I have already stated.
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Wut Bruh.
Silly Salty needs some reading-glasses :P
And I'm pretty sure I never spoke-ill of the mighty Hawkeye XD
I'm a Saltlick, my eye translator thing isn't working.....
Just like you never spoke-ill of the mighty Saltlick :P
I merely suggested you get reading-glasses! Please do not smite me!
Ya know, I think I might be fine with missing out on that opportunity. For now at least. But I did get some great pictures.
A week ago I was in this thrift shop and found this gorgeous dragon patterned shirt on sale for $3.50. I really love dragons and am into Chinese/Japanese cultures (always wanted to visit Japan one day). So I thought I might as well get it, even if it's a little tight on me. Sadly on the first day going out with this on, at a little meal my shirt got caught by some thing and torn it a little by two of the buttons. Going to have to get this fixed now.
Cough cough
Ooh that looks dang cool
You sure of that?
I totally walked into that one. lol
Eh, we all have our sense of fashion. B3
Lol
Face scans in video games really make me upset ;_____; JUST MAKE ME LOOK PRETTY