The Glenmore "Elite" Guard are the worst soldiers to ever exist.
Seriously. If ordered to attack they'll waste their arrows on the guy that already has an arrow in his throat and his unarmed daughter while killing zero of the armed men in the room.
Later, they'll abandon their commander (and the Glenmore heir?) because a psychopath told them to leave? I understand if they felt they should leave, but I don't understand why they'd abandon their commander and the son of the guy they are sworn to protect
Maybe losing the support of House Glenmore and its army is a good thing and Ramsay just saved House Forrester.
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I think it was kind of funny that they risked their lives to save Ryon at Highpoint, but will completely ditch Arthur the son of their lord. Their logic makes no sense. But in a sense it seems like it was their weird way of trying to make the whole "rescue Ryon" mission at Highpoint to a secret assasination mission, so the Glenmores could have half of the forrest. Like an excuse just to kill Ludd. They already had Gyrff in prison, and the Glenmores could have turned Ironwrath into their personal sweatshop for ironwood if they wanted. Perhaps Ramsay did save the day. Their elite guards snuck into Ironwrath so eaily without Rodick knowing in episode 4. They even so far as to just have killed him in the forrest if they wanted. It showed how weak Ironwrath really was.
So true
Those stupid fucking Glenmores with their stupid useless pathetic fucking guard are the main reason why my house is currently deep in shit. I genuinely don't understand why does the game forces me into giving a flying fuck about Elaena's problems. I had a good plan about how to save my family and that godforsaken guard just got in my way and ruined everything. I did my best to tell the Glenmores to stay the fuck out of Ironrath, but of fucking course, the plot demands me to be BFFs with those suckers. I felt sorry for Arthur when he died, it was his fault, but he was just a boy, trying to protect his sister and he didn't deserve such horrible end. But this is in the past now. The moment lord Glenmore demands me to return Elaena home, I'll do it without hesitation. She has landed me in enough trouble without giving anything in return. First she refuses to marry me, because it endangers her family - next game forces me into helping her, which costs my house practically every chance to survive. Enough of this bullshit. I can't risk having her father as my another enemy. She just isn't worth it. And I never ever want to have anything to do with Glenmores or their soldiers. I've had enough of their shit for the rest of my life.
You know what is ironic? If you lose the betrothel because you said you love her or your family will die she says shes just looking out for her family. But when you say you can't get rid of Gryff so she can't marry him, she says oo you'd turn me away after everything we have shared... WTH She is selfish.
It brings tears to my eyes, that Arthur had to die trying to protect her. He was ten times a better person, than his sister, although he made the stupidest mistake of defying much more powerful people. Honestly, I've had enough of her. Now her father can force her to marry Gryff, or Ludd, or a dead horse for all I care. I really hope that game won't force me into playing nurse for her any longer.
Gordon Ramsay approves of your swearing.
Nice.
Atleast there was more than 4 soldiers cuz they were easier to put in the game... cuz you know, they're all the same model
Yeah. It's even more funny that Arthur tells you to go behind his men if things get messy. But instead everyone just stay and wait to be slaughtered. This scene isn't very logical.
About Ramsay, Arthur might have ordered his men to surrender.
I really have no idea what purpose the Glenmores serve other than a plot device. I didn't give a shit about Arthur dying and had a good laugh at Elaena's and Talia's reactions but other than that meant less than nothing to me.
Let me guess, you didn't win the betrothal to Elaena back in episode 2 ? ^^
Wasn't too hard to guess, was it? Considering that my comment says "she refuses to marry me".)
I didn't read it all precisely because I guessed from the very beginning it was the fact ^^ All of you people who failed in it tend to be pissed at Elaena and the Glenmores because you weren't skilled enough for practical talk. It just makes me smile, this is such typical human grudge.
It's the same shit with the Sera hate which is also pretty ridiculous imo
Well, if you had bothered with reading the rest of the comment, you would've learned, that I'm not pissed because I have lost the betrothal - I'm pissed because I have lost the betrothal, but I still have to help Elaena with her problems.
Well no I don't think I have to read the rest of your post, I have the confirmation lol
He is saying that he is mad because he STILL has to deal with her shit problems when he shouldn't have to b/c he is not betrothed to her, which makes perfect sense. Not the fact that he lost the betrothal in the first place.
I'm pretty sure if he had won he would not be saying that tbh
He should welcome an alliance with Glenmores (back in ep.4), especially if he missed the betrothal
Which was?
Yeah I could see Arthur ordering his men to leave at the behest of Ramsay. Fighting the Whitehills is one thing, but going up against the Boltons the wardens of the North is another. After Arthur sent his men home is probably when things got messy. Had he known what Ramsay was going to do then of course he would not have sent his soldiers home. That's just how I saw it go down in my head.
First of all, I was going to play it cool and do not show any kind of disobedience until I have a good army to back me up. For me twenty men, who suck in both ranged and close combat and have no reason to obey MY orders, are the exact opposite of good army. Another important part of the plan was dealing with the information Gwyn has given me smartly. She said, that there is a traitor in my council - so why can't I, like, use that information instead of just making a pouty and suspicious face couple times throughout the episode? Starting the moment I got to know about the traitor my council wasn't supposed to be given any meaningful information. Hell, it might've been a good thing to give them some false information instead. I should've sent Malcolm a raven, telling him to lie low for a while and not try to contact me until they get to Westeros. Next I would've forged a letter from "Asher's sellsword friend from Slaver's Bay", telling that both Asher and Malcolm have died in some kind of a fight and show it to the council. Traitor would've revealed the information to Whitehills, which would've given them reason to believe, that I'm even less dangerous, than I used to be. While I were at it, Asher, after getting gold from Daenerys, would've searched for an army at Free Cities - for a real army. It wouldn't be a handful of mindless savages from fighting pits, more interested ransacking villages, than obeying my orders. It would've been people, who know what discipline means, and who are interested in one thing - serving the man, who has paid them. We'd travel to Westeros without letting anyone at Ironrath know and would only contact Rodrick when we were ready to strike. Of course no one from my council would know about this. We'd taken Gryff and his men hostage to ensure Ryon would be safe and we would've made Whitehill men get out of our part of the grove. After making the trade (of course Gryff and his men would've been guarded by my sellswords and not a single member of the council would have a chance of getting anywhere near them and of course my sellswords would've been at the trade in case of an ambush) we'd be more or less equal and would go on supplying ironwood for the crown - since Whitehills suck at the craft it would only make sense, that our product would be more in requisition. If Ramsay became angry, I'd insist, that Whitehills have disobeyed him first, by taking the whole grove for themselves and screwing the whole business - and we were just trying to make things right, so the crown would get the ironwood and Roose Bolton's reputation wouldn't be in danger. Was my plan perfect? Hell no, there is a shitload of things, that could go terribly wrong. Was it better, than defying the Warden of the North and his bannerman with a help of twenty archers and huge self-confidence? Hell yes. The problem is not only about the Glenmores - it's about the game not letting us do the right thing for sake of drama and plot twists. But yes, I'm mostly pissed about the Glenmores, maybe because I wasn't even given the illusion of a choice with them.
Oooh, you know what would've been cool? If we could do what Tyrion did with Pycelle, Littlefinger, and Varys when he became Hand. Give each of them different information and see which one gets leaked.
Great idea, that haven't crossed my mind.
And an option to cut off Duncan's beard.
The Glenmores never watched Unforgiven. When confronted by superior numbers, an experienced gunfighter will always fire on the best shot first.
Haha, his beard is not as magnificent as Pycelle's was, so it won't be as dramatic.
I like this game to the extent that I am going through GOT withdrawal and the staff at TELLTALE put many hours on creating a very unique storyline. I am not impressed, however, on how they squeezed and sometimes forced this story into the actual story based on the HBO series. I also hate that this is the only game in which I know of an ambush but still somehow manage to fall prey to it. You would think that if I spared the traitor and learned of the Whitehills plans that I could set a little trap of my own. Or when Fatfuck Ludd brings Ryon to the funeral with his weak ass guard I would cut his ugly fucking head off like I planned when I kissed that piece of shits ring. Or maybe get my bitch mother out of house politics because when your house is facing potential ruin you don't worry about an 8 yr old attending a funeral. My alliance with Margaery doesn't do anything but get in my way. I wanted to align with Cersei because she is truly the power behind the Crown but that is not an option. To get on topic with the main discussion, I chose to take the Glenmore Guard with me to negotiate a truce at Whitehill and Arthur escorts me there and back and somehow gets himself captured by Ramsay Snow. When did this event take place? Why would he leave me and his most "elite" soldiers? Why the fuck would I enter the Great Hall of Ironrath alone under such suspicious circumstances? Whatever they are thinking with all those post-it notes up at TELLTALE needs to formulate a believable outcome and maybe build a storyline that mirrors a pleasurable sexual experience, for example, Start with foreplay and get through the muck and finish with a Fucking orgasm. Instead I've been left with a bit of chub and Fucking "Blueballs". TELLTALE needs to STEP THEIR GAME UP!! Thanks for reading, I just needed to vent to someone even if it's just myself I'm talking to. I feel a little better now. #TherapyWorks
Why did you bump this thread, how did you find it, and can a mod close it?
The Glenmores soldiers were good ones to me.
I wish that Arthur didn't die in Episode 5. It would have been interesting to see him fight in Episode 6.
Agreed.