Now he's looking at 3-10 years, Depending on how charitable the judge is feeling. If Joey's a felon, they can also look forward to anywhere from 1-5 years on top of that. No more gangbanging in Camden for Joey.
Most Prosecutors make deals with people to avoid jail time, due to overcrowding, i know it sounds good on paper, but that is the reality of it.
Yep, it's part of a law enforcement strategy.
You see, Camden has a drug / gangbanger problem. The new weapon laws are supposed to keep … morethem in jail longer.
Let's say Joey G. is arrested for tagging a building. The cops search him and find a gun. Instead of getting probation and a fine for vandalism, Joey's charges are trumped up with concealment of a deadly weapon, and possession of a deadly weapon during the commission of the crime. Now he's looking at 3-10 years, Depending on how charitable the judge is feeling. If Joey's a felon, they can also look forward to anywhere from 1-5 years on top of that. No more gangbanging in Camden for Joey.
At least,that's how it's supposed to work. More often, cops frisk people suspected of misdemeanor drug possession, find a weapon and trump up the charges.
Seeing as you claim to be a veteran I would of thought you'd have more respect for veterans of Canada.
I have Plenty of respect for veterans. It is the most thankless job around, other than a police officer. My biggest problem is when people tell me how to live my life.
Whatever man. I don't have to convince you. It's called HISTORY. We were there.
Seeing as you claim to be a veteran I would of thought… more you'd have more respect for veterans of Canada.
WHERE were you by the way? You mention you didn't see any when you were there. But where is "there"?
Actually, my sister had an internship with the assistant DA in Camden County. It's practically anarchy on the streets in some neighborhoods, so sentencing is particularly harsh.
Plea deals are sometimes offered, but most involve at least 1-3 in prison and a felony on the books. It depends on priors, affiliation and mandatory minimum sentence of the particular offense.
Now he's looking at 3-10 years, Depending on how charitable the judge is feeling. If Joey's a felon, they can also look forward to anywhere … morefrom 1-5 years on top of that. No more gangbanging in Camden for Joey.
Most Prosecutors make deals with people to avoid jail time, due to overcrowding, i know it sounds good on paper, but that is the reality of it.
Seeing as you claim to be a veteran I would of thought you'd have more respect for veterans of Canada.
I have Plenty of respect for … moreveterans. It is the most thankless job around, other than a police officer. My biggest problem is when people tell me how to live my life.
But you were talking about the draft. You make 180 degree turns in your conversations, you make a claim, someone proves you wrong, and you turn around and bring up something totally random or blaming someone else for something.
Camden's graduation rate is 49%. Well below the countries average of 93%. I think that if the city spent a little more money and time into education then maybe the crime rate would fall as kids would graduate and not resort to a life of crime. There are many underlining factors that contribute to a crime rate that ridiculous. The thing about America is that the answer is always incarceration. 5% of the world population yet you have 20% of the world's prisoners.
I agree that having a pepper spray on a university campus should be allowed, It's unacceptable that a woman in Camden isn't allowed to have any.
Th assault weapons are just unnecessary in my opinion. My guess is that a pistol would have been just as invaluable.
My sister went to law school in Camden, New Jersey, a place with some of the strictest weapon laws in the country. Ironically, it's also a … morecomplete shithole and one of the most dangerous cities in the US. Possession of ANY weapon is a 1st degree misdemeanor AT LEAST. It's kind of fucked up that she could be attacked in the street and have no means to defend herself. No gun, no knife, no stun gun, not even pepper spray.
I'm a gun owner, I own one of those "assault weapons" that the media thinks is extra scary because it has 'gasp' a pistol grip. Dun dun DUUUN! I've only had to defend my household with it once, but it was invaluable in helping me quickly take control of the situation until the cops arrived.
I wouldn't be hysterical if the government bought back my gun, but I'd feel somewhat less safe.
EDIT : For reference this is my big, evil assault rifle (minus the red dot sight that I normally use)
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I would hate to live there. The NRA would have my back though, at least i would hope they would. I can't see that being legal, why hasn't it been challenged.
Actually, my sister had an internship with the assistant DA in Camden County. It's practically anarchy on the streets in some neighborhoods… more, so sentencing is particularly harsh.
Plea deals are sometimes offered, but most involve at least 1-3 in prison and a felony on the books. It depends on priors, affiliation and mandatory minimum sentence of the particular offense.
Assault weapons in the hands of civilians seems extremely unnecessary. Handguns and Pistols as well as hunting rifles should be allowed but automatic or semi automatic assault rifles are just outrageous for any normal person to have In their homes.
My sister went to law school in Camden, New Jersey, a place with some of the strictest weapon laws in the country. Ironically, it's also a … morecomplete shithole and one of the most dangerous cities in the US. Possession of ANY weapon is a 1st degree misdemeanor AT LEAST. It's kind of fucked up that she could be attacked in the street and have no means to defend herself. No gun, no knife, no stun gun, not even pepper spray.
I'm a gun owner, I own one of those "assault weapons" that the media thinks is extra scary because it has 'gasp' a pistol grip. Dun dun DUUUN! I've only had to defend my household with it once, but it was invaluable in helping me quickly take control of the situation until the cops arrived.
I wouldn't be hysterical if the government bought back my gun, but I'd feel somewhat less safe.
EDIT : For reference this is my big, evil assault rifle (minus the red dot sight that I normally use)
It may surprise you t… [view original content]
But you were talking about the draft. You make 180 degree turns in your conversations, you make a claim, someone proves you wrong, and you turn around and bring up something totally random or blaming someone else for something.
What's your point? You have no point bringing this up, you attempted to deny the accomplishments of the Canadian military because deserters from a draft into a bullshit war escaped there and then you attempted to blame Canada for merely making fun of how crazy it is you all want to keep assault rifles in your houses. Canada isn't invading America and forcing you to surrender your weapons, they make fun of people who think having the weaponry of a private army makes you and others safer.
Yeah, Camden has some of the worst schools in the country. A few years back, one public school in Camden only had 6 graduates. Without a degree, people in that city have two career options: McDonalds or crack.
Th assault weapons are just unnecessary in my opinion. My guess is that a pistol would have been just as invaluable.
Funny enough, my assault weapon was never really meant for self-defense. It was a weapon of opportunity and I definitely would've grabbed a handgun if I owned one. Unfortunately, all I had was my dinky rifle, loaded with rat-shot, hardly an ideal weapon for self defense. My saving grace is that the crazy guy in my house didn't know that. He heard the charging handle go 'clack-clack' and saw some guy in his briefs pointing an assault rifle at him.
Another thing worth noting is that.handguns are involved in far, far more fatal shootings, due to their concealability and ease-of-use. If the government wants to cut down on gun crime, a concealed handgun ban is probably the way to go.
Camden's graduation rate is 49%. Well below the countries average of 93%. I think that if the city spent a little more money and time into… more education then maybe the crime rate would fall as kids would graduate and not resort to a life of crime. There are many underlining factors that contribute to a crime rate that ridiculous. The thing about America is that the answer is always incarceration. 5% of the world population yet you have 20% of the world's prisoners.
I agree that having a pepper spray on a university campus should be allowed, It's unacceptable that a woman in Camden isn't allowed to have any.
Th assault weapons are just unnecessary in my opinion. My guess is that a pistol would have been just as invaluable.
i was being a ass on purpose because the OP was commenting on my lifestyle in a negative way, so i fought fire with fire. Then i explained to him why i did it. I don't understand why you feel i need to give you a explanation on what i do.
This is the last comment i am going to make on this issue, so i'm done with it. Have fun discussing your post, whatever. Why allow myself to get trolled i don't know. I'm done with it.
What's your point? You have no point bringing this up, you attempted to deny the accomplishments of the Canadian military because deserters … morefrom a draft into a bullshit war escaped there and then you attempted to blame Canada for merely making fun of how crazy it is you all want to keep assault rifles in your houses. Canada isn't invading America and forcing you to surrender your weapons, they make fun of people who think having the weaponry of a private army makes you and others safer.
Sure, but what's the basis? What makes a rifle ban-worthy? Also, do you realize that small, semi-automatic pistols and revolvers are responsible for far more gun crimes?
I'm willing to make compromises when it comes to gun ownership, but the basis of most firearm bans tends to be fear and ignorance. In fact fear and ignorance seem to dominate both sides of the argument.
Assault weapons in the hands of civilians seems extremely unnecessary. Handguns and Pistols as well as hunting rifles should be allowed but automatic or semi automatic assault rifles are just outrageous for any normal person to have In their homes.
i was being a ass on purpose because the OP was commenting on my lifestyle in a negative way, so i fought fire with fire. Then i explained … moreto him why i did it. I don't understand why you feel i need to give you a explanation on what i do.
This is the last comment i am going to make on this issue, so i'm done with it. Have fun discussing your post, whatever. Why allow myself to get trolled i don't know. I'm done with it.
I would hate to live there. The NRA would have my back though, at least i would hope they would. I can't see that being legal, why hasn't it been challenged.
in reference to the gun law.
what's the basis? What makes a rifle ban-worthy? Also, do you realize that small, semi-automatic pistols and revolvers are responsible for far more gun crimes?
I do realize that small arms are responsible for more gun crimes. Let's face it, if a criminal wanted a gun, he could get one. I'm not against having handguns and other small guns. They can be extremely useful in protecting ones self.
Assault rifles however are a different deal, they have many abilities that can be used when doing something...like a massacre. People that go into schools, or work places, or public places and use an assault rifle to shoot it up have a far larger ability to kill a lot of people from the automatic view of it and the large types of magazines these weapons allow. It's more to prevent mass shootings. Of course, if someone wanted to get an assault rifle and do a shooting they still could...However, police can track these and prevent the selling's from happening rather and be traced to a gun store and can't do anything.
In fact fear and ignorance seem to dominate both sides of the argument.
Agreed, in fact the basis of firearms should be taught more. The benefits of having civilians trained in firearms could prevent shootings or allow people to be safer around guns. My two cents into this.
Sure, but what's the basis? What makes a rifle ban-worthy? Also, do you realize that small, semi-automatic pistols and revolvers are respo… morensible for far more gun crimes?
I'm willing to make compromises when it comes to gun ownership, but the basis of most firearm bans tends to be fear and ignorance. In fact fear and ignorance seem to dominate both sides of the argument.
Like if i went to that state, or wherever it was, i have my Carry license, so i assuming if they stopped me , they'd try to pull that on me, and i would say... No No No, here is my carry license. Its just really boggling that law is not being challenged.
Eww. I'm a proud gun owner, but I detest the NRA. Ted Nugent can suck my balls!
I don't know. My guess, it already was and the state Supreme Court upheld it. NRA has a lot of clout, but they can't buy out judges, just yet.
People that go into schools, or work places, or public places and use an assault rifle to shoot it up have a far larger ability to kill a lot of people from the automatic view of it and the large types of magazines these weapons allow.
Most semi-automatic, 9mm handguns have 13-15 round magazines. Some can accept up to 32 round magazines, like the Gabby Giffords shooter did. They have little recoil and usually jam less frequently. Plus you can conceal them and legally take them almost anywhere, without anyone becoming suspicious. How is that less dangerous?
Truthfully, if they banned high-cap magazines, I wouldn't really mind. My gun just happened to come with a 25rd magazine, I could easily buy a 10rd mag for $20 if I wanted to. But banning a weapon because it's scary looking, has a pistol grip or (heaven forbid) a flash suppressor, is ridiculous. It's a completely unhelpful idea, born of ignorance about the basics of firearms.
what's the basis? What makes a rifle ban-worthy? Also, do you realize that small, semi-automatic pistols and revolvers are responsible for f… morear more gun crimes?
I do realize that small arms are responsible for more gun crimes. Let's face it, if a criminal wanted a gun, he could get one. I'm not against having handguns and other small guns. They can be extremely useful in protecting ones self.
Assault rifles however are a different deal, they have many abilities that can be used when doing something...like a massacre. People that go into schools, or work places, or public places and use an assault rifle to shoot it up have a far larger ability to kill a lot of people from the automatic view of it and the large types of magazines these weapons allow. It's more to prevent mass shootings. Of course, if someone wanted to get an assault rifle and do a shooting they still could...However, police can track these and prevent the selling's fr… [view original content]
The fact that they are semi automatic helps but they are still dangerous, no one is denying that fact. Honestly, all we're doing is saying how dangerous each type of gun is, only giving more reason for them all being banned.
It's a completely unhelpful idea, born of ignorance about the basics of firearms.
Then like I said, we should teach people the facts of firearms.
People that go into schools, or work places, or public places and use an assault rifle to shoot it up have a far larger ability to kill a lo… moret of people from the automatic view of it and the large types of magazines these weapons allow.
Most semi-automatic, 9mm handguns have 13-15 round magazines. Some can accept up to 32 round magazines, like the Gabby Giffords shooter did. They have little recoil and usually jam less frequently. Plus you can conceal them and legally take them almost anywhere, without anyone becoming suspicious. How is that less dangerous?
Truthfully, if they banned high-cap magazines, I wouldn't really mind. My gun just happened to come with a 25rd magazine, I could easily buy a 10rd mag for $20 if I wanted to. But banning a weapon because it's scary looking, has a pistol grip or (heaven forbid) a flash suppressor, is ridiculous. It's a completely unhelpful idea, born of ignorance about the basics of firearms.
Prior to 1968 Canada refused entry to "deserters" and "draft-dodgers" and they had to give us the proper paperwork that said they were either discharged or had proof they didn't have to go into the draft. I'm not sure if you're aware but the Vietnam war started in 1955 and we didn't allow the draft dodgers to come into Canada until 1968 when it was clear how fucking stupid of a war the Vietnam war was. (13 years after the start of the war)
It was actually a cultural turning point for Canadians as it was the first time the Government and the people openly opposed the United States. We became far more independent and nationalistic because of it. People became more willing to oppose the United States and move in a different direction socially and politically.
The fact that they are semi automatic helps but they are still dangerous, no one is denying that fact. Honestly, all we're doing is saying how dangerous each type of gun is, only giving more reason for them all being banned.
That's perfect. That way the only people who can defend themselves are criminals with nothing to lose or live for. No, I'm making the point that a handgun is no more or less dangerous than an assault weapon, in the hands of a mass-murderer. I've also conceded the point this high-capacity magazines play a contributing role in mass shooting and that I would not be heavily opposed to a 10 round limit; a concession that you either didn't notice or didn't acknowledge.
Then like I said, we should teach people the facts of firearms.
That's a great idea in theory, but who wants to learn? Gun enthusiasts will be pissed that the government sees fit to lecture them about firearms 101, and liberal weenies will be aghast that they and their children will be forced to learn about guns (!!!). (Even if it's optional, you can bet that pundits on both sides would almost certainly be throwing around the word "forced".) The problem with gun control is that the issue is a microcosm of American society as a whole. A bunch of people who are 100% convinced that they, and them alone, know what's best for everyone and absolutely refuse to make concessions.
tl;dr: American gun culture is fucked up because American society is fucked up.
How is that less dangerous?
The fact that they are semi automatic helps but they are still dangerous, no one is denying that fact. H… moreonestly, all we're doing is saying how dangerous each type of gun is, only giving more reason for them all being banned.
It's a completely unhelpful idea, born of ignorance about the basics of firearms.
Then like I said, we should teach people the facts of firearms.
Prior to 1968 Canada refused entry to "deserters" and "draft-dodgers" and they had to give us the proper paperwork that said they were eithe… morer discharged or had proof they didn't have to go into the draft. I'm not sure if you're aware but the Vietnam war started in 1955 and we didn't allow the draft dodgers to come into Canada until 1968 when it was clear how fucking stupid of a war the Vietnam war was. (13 years after the start of the war)
It was actually a cultural turning point for Canadians as it was the first time the Government and the people openly opposed the United States. We became far more independent and nationalistic because of it. People became more willing to oppose the United States and move in a different direction socially and politically.
a concession that you either didn't notice or didn't acknowledge.
I can answer that, I didn't notice it. It must have no clicked to me, apologizes. I agree with a 10 round limit, it would be extremely beneficial and possibly life saving.
tl;dr: American gun culture is fucked up because American society is fucked up.
I was laughing at that laugh paragraph, it was entirely right. If we try to change anything in a good way, someone will freak out and go on an internet rampage.
The fact that they are semi automatic helps but they are still dangerous, no one is denying that fact. Honestly, all we're doing is saying h… moreow dangerous each type of gun is, only giving more reason for them all being banned.
That's perfect. That way the only people who can defend themselves are criminals with nothing to lose or live for. No, I'm making the point that a handgun is no more or less dangerous than an assault weapon, in the hands of a mass-murderer. I've also conceded the point this high-capacity magazines play a contributing role in mass shooting and that I would not be heavily opposed to a 10 round limit; a concession that you either didn't notice or didn't acknowledge.
Then like I said, we should teach people the facts of firearms.
That's a great idea in theory, but who wants to learn? Gun enthusiasts will be pissed that the government sees fit to lecture them about firearms 101, and liberal weenies wi… [view original content]
True that! Failure to change or compromise will be the death of this nation, if something doesn't change. I'd happily trade my gun for a government that works.
a concession that you either didn't notice or didn't acknowledge.
I can answer that, I didn't notice it. It must have no clicked to … moreme, apologizes. I agree with a 10 round limit, it would be extremely beneficial and possibly life saving.
tl;dr: American gun culture is fucked up because American society is fucked up.
I was laughing at that laugh paragraph, it was entirely right. If we try to change anything in a good way, someone will freak out and go on an internet rampage.
I hope Bernie wins, he has the best chance to actually bring change. In my opinion, political parties are what is causing these problems, too much hate and tension between them. Oh well, let's hope things change soon.
True that! Failure to change or compromise will be the death of this nation, if something doesn't change. I'd happily trade my gun for a government that works.
Like if i went to that state, or wherever it was, i have my Carry license, so i assuming if they stopped me , they'd try to pull that on me… more, and i would say... No No No, here is my carry license. Its just really boggling that law is not being challenged.
As a Canadian, I love Bernie. Everyone talks about how a re-distribution of wealth is so bad, yet Bernie talks real and says "There has been a huge re-distribution of wealth over the past forty years. It's gone from the middle class to the millionaires and billionaires."
Oh and his one-liners are fucking awesome. "We're here to say to the billionaire class that you CANT HAVE IT ALL!".
I hope Bernie wins, he has the best chance to actually bring change. In my opinion, political parties are what is causing these problems, too much hate and tension between them. Oh well, let's hope things change soon.
As a Canadian, I love Bernie. Everyone talks about how a re-distribution of wealth is so bad, yet Bernie talks real and says "There has bee… moren a huge re-distribution of wealth over the past forty years. It's gone from the middle class to the millionaires and billionaires."
Oh and his one-liners are fucking awesome. "We're here to say to the billionaire class that you CANT HAVE IT ALL!".
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Now you know how i feel when, canadians try to change my way of life.
Sticks and stones will break my bones, but i will always have my guns.
Most Prosecutors make deals with people to avoid jail time, due to overcrowding, i know it sounds good on paper, but that is the reality of it.
I have Plenty of respect for veterans. It is the most thankless job around, other than a police officer. My biggest problem is when people tell me how to live my life.
Actually, my sister had an internship with the assistant DA in Camden County. It's practically anarchy on the streets in some neighborhoods, so sentencing is particularly harsh.
Plea deals are sometimes offered, but most involve at least 1-3 in prison and a felony on the books. It depends on priors, affiliation and mandatory minimum sentence of the particular offense.
That makes absolutely no sense George.
I haven't told you how to live your life. You said Canada has only gone to the "cola wars". Pardon me if I didn't view that as "plenty of respect".
I am a resistance fighter for Squirt, one day we will take down the evil empire of Coca Cola.
You are over here calling things i like to do, my way of life stupid. Why wouldn't i take offense to that.
But you were talking about the draft. You make 180 degree turns in your conversations, you make a claim, someone proves you wrong, and you turn around and bring up something totally random or blaming someone else for something.
Camden's graduation rate is 49%. Well below the countries average of 93%. I think that if the city spent a little more money and time into education then maybe the crime rate would fall as kids would graduate and not resort to a life of crime. There are many underlining factors that contribute to a crime rate that ridiculous. The thing about America is that the answer is always incarceration. 5% of the world population yet you have 20% of the world's prisoners.
I agree that having a pepper spray on a university campus should be allowed, It's unacceptable that a woman in Camden isn't allowed to have any.
Th assault weapons are just unnecessary in my opinion. My guess is that a pistol would have been just as invaluable.
I would hate to live there. The NRA would have my back though, at least i would hope they would. I can't see that being legal, why hasn't it been challenged.
in reference to the gun law.
Assault weapons in the hands of civilians seems extremely unnecessary. Handguns and Pistols as well as hunting rifles should be allowed but automatic or semi automatic assault rifles are just outrageous for any normal person to have In their homes.
Are you telling me that Canada did not actively allow military personnel to dodge the draft?
What draft? The Vietnam one? Because there hasn't been a draft in years.
Your Point? Still happened, i am not wrong about that.
What's your point? You have no point bringing this up, you attempted to deny the accomplishments of the Canadian military because deserters from a draft into a bullshit war escaped there and then you attempted to blame Canada for merely making fun of how crazy it is you all want to keep assault rifles in your houses. Canada isn't invading America and forcing you to surrender your weapons, they make fun of people who think having the weaponry of a private army makes you and others safer.
Yeah, Camden has some of the worst schools in the country. A few years back, one public school in Camden only had 6 graduates. Without a degree, people in that city have two career options: McDonalds or crack.
Funny enough, my assault weapon was never really meant for self-defense. It was a weapon of opportunity and I definitely would've grabbed a handgun if I owned one. Unfortunately, all I had was my dinky rifle, loaded with rat-shot, hardly an ideal weapon for self defense. My saving grace is that the crazy guy in my house didn't know that. He heard the charging handle go 'clack-clack' and saw some guy in his briefs pointing an assault rifle at him.
Another thing worth noting is that.handguns are involved in far, far more fatal shootings, due to their concealability and ease-of-use. If the government wants to cut down on gun crime, a concealed handgun ban is probably the way to go.
i was being a ass on purpose because the OP was commenting on my lifestyle in a negative way, so i fought fire with fire. Then i explained to him why i did it. I don't understand why you feel i need to give you a explanation on what i do.
This is the last comment i am going to make on this issue, so i'm done with it. Have fun discussing your post, whatever. Why allow myself to get trolled i don't know. I'm done with it.
Sure, but what's the basis? What makes a rifle ban-worthy? Also, do you realize that small, semi-automatic pistols and revolvers are responsible for far more gun crimes?
I'm willing to make compromises when it comes to gun ownership, but the basis of most firearm bans tends to be fear and ignorance. In fact fear and ignorance seem to dominate both sides of the argument.
This is exactly what I think when I respond to your comments.
Please don't respond if you feel that way.
Eww. I'm a proud gun owner, but I detest the NRA. Ted Nugent can suck my balls!
I don't know. My guess, it already was and the state Supreme Court upheld it. NRA has a lot of clout, but they can't buy out judges, just yet.
I do realize that small arms are responsible for more gun crimes. Let's face it, if a criminal wanted a gun, he could get one. I'm not against having handguns and other small guns. They can be extremely useful in protecting ones self.
Assault rifles however are a different deal, they have many abilities that can be used when doing something...like a massacre. People that go into schools, or work places, or public places and use an assault rifle to shoot it up have a far larger ability to kill a lot of people from the automatic view of it and the large types of magazines these weapons allow. It's more to prevent mass shootings. Of course, if someone wanted to get an assault rifle and do a shooting they still could...However, police can track these and prevent the selling's from happening rather and be traced to a gun store and can't do anything.
Agreed, in fact the basis of firearms should be taught more. The benefits of having civilians trained in firearms could prevent shootings or allow people to be safer around guns. My two cents into this.
I will respond though because I feel as if someone should try to express the facts of something or correct the ignorance of a subject.
Like if i went to that state, or wherever it was, i have my Carry license, so i assuming if they stopped me , they'd try to pull that on me, and i would say... No No No, here is my carry license. Its just really boggling that law is not being challenged.
Most semi-automatic, 9mm handguns have 13-15 round magazines. Some can accept up to 32 round magazines, like the Gabby Giffords shooter did. They have little recoil and usually jam less frequently. Plus you can conceal them and legally take them almost anywhere, without anyone becoming suspicious. How is that less dangerous?
Truthfully, if they banned high-cap magazines, I wouldn't really mind. My gun just happened to come with a 25rd magazine, I could easily buy a 10rd mag for $20 if I wanted to. But banning a weapon because it's scary looking, has a pistol grip or (heaven forbid) a flash suppressor, is ridiculous. It's a completely unhelpful idea, born of ignorance about the basics of firearms.
The fact that they are semi automatic helps but they are still dangerous, no one is denying that fact. Honestly, all we're doing is saying how dangerous each type of gun is, only giving more reason for them all being banned.
Then like I said, we should teach people the facts of firearms.
Prior to 1968 Canada refused entry to "deserters" and "draft-dodgers" and they had to give us the proper paperwork that said they were either discharged or had proof they didn't have to go into the draft. I'm not sure if you're aware but the Vietnam war started in 1955 and we didn't allow the draft dodgers to come into Canada until 1968 when it was clear how fucking stupid of a war the Vietnam war was. (13 years after the start of the war)
It was actually a cultural turning point for Canadians as it was the first time the Government and the people openly opposed the United States. We became far more independent and nationalistic because of it. People became more willing to oppose the United States and move in a different direction socially and politically.
That's perfect. That way the only people who can defend themselves are criminals with nothing to lose or live for. No, I'm making the point that a handgun is no more or less dangerous than an assault weapon, in the hands of a mass-murderer. I've also conceded the point this high-capacity magazines play a contributing role in mass shooting and that I would not be heavily opposed to a 10 round limit; a concession that you either didn't notice or didn't acknowledge.
That's a great idea in theory, but who wants to learn? Gun enthusiasts will be pissed that the government sees fit to lecture them about firearms 101, and liberal weenies will be aghast that they and their children will be forced to learn about guns (!!!). (Even if it's optional, you can bet that pundits on both sides would almost certainly be throwing around the word "forced".) The problem with gun control is that the issue is a microcosm of American society as a whole. A bunch of people who are 100% convinced that they, and them alone, know what's best for everyone and absolutely refuse to make concessions.
tl;dr: American gun culture is fucked up because American society is fucked up.
This ^
Canada was doing us a favor. Vietnam was a colossal fuck up that thousands upon thousands of fathers and sons paid for with their lives.
I can answer that, I didn't notice it. It must have no clicked to me, apologizes. I agree with a 10 round limit, it would be extremely beneficial and possibly life saving.
I was laughing at that laugh paragraph, it was entirely right. If we try to change anything in a good way, someone will freak out and go on an internet rampage.
True that! Failure to change or compromise will be the death of this nation, if something doesn't change. I'd happily trade my gun for a government that works.
I hope Bernie wins, he has the best chance to actually bring change. In my opinion, political parties are what is causing these problems, too much hate and tension between them. Oh well, let's hope things change soon.
One problem. The People's Republic of New Jersey is a "shall not issue" state and doesn't recognize CW permits issued by other states.
As a Canadian, I love Bernie. Everyone talks about how a re-distribution of wealth is so bad, yet Bernie talks real and says "There has been a huge re-distribution of wealth over the past forty years. It's gone from the middle class to the millionaires and billionaires."
Oh and his one-liners are fucking awesome. "We're here to say to the billionaire class that you CANT HAVE IT ALL!".
There's a video where a man in the crowd screams "YOU'RE RIGHT BURNIE, YOU'RE RIGHT!" and everyone cheers. He's amazing and is the president we need.
The US has a right to kill people attacking the country. That's why we wait for the fight.
Umm...Small issue. No one has invaded the United States for hundreds of years and no one is going to anytime soon.
I didn't say invaded. I said attacked. That's why we went to war with al queda after 9/11, because the US is run by isolationist pussies.