I still think it was fine. I mean perhaps Mira was always supposed to die but here unlike ethan for example they gave her a way to be saved. Also they had to give consequences for actions, If Mira wants to be stubborn and turn down the only option she has to live then thats it
King's Landing will probably remain a significant story location, but probably not with Mira as POV character.
As Episode 6 ends, either Tom or Mira will be dead, but the other will still be in King's Landing operating at a reduced capacity. The surviving character may be used to introduce us to Tom's unseen allies, mentioned in that episode, The new POV character may be one of them or connect to them. An obvious possibility is that Tom is one of Varys' spiders.
Morgryn may be the new POV as well. It should be fairly easy to convince him to defend the Forresters at least circunstantially. Stranger things have happened.
There is a line in Ironrath's plot in Episode 6 that states that Mira's efforts had an effect on the size of the Whitehill army. It is possible that the number of survivors and their overall situation will carry that effect into Season 2.
Although I am still hoping that Telltale may decide to fork Season 2 into Asher and Rodrik POV storylines, as they did with Episode 6 to a degree. That would allow them to potentially double their future GOT line with a relatively lessened amount of work.
Margaery couldn't risk that. If you played your cards right and she really doesn't want you dismissed, I was lead to believe she may come to your aid in season 2 with Lord Morgryn, but she specifically said she won't do anything helpful until the "rumors" are laid to rest. Would have been nice, though.
maybe margaery come to execution and shout "stop" she is my handmaiden! by the way i always loyal to margaery, the political in king landing always make me want spit in high queen. so i choose margaery beside my family.
I'd put Gared as Jon (neither had the birth rite, both went to the wall), Rodrick as Robb (first borns and respected leader, also each of them lead their houses to war), and Ethan and Asher are similar to different parts of Bran. Ethan, for the reasons you gave, Asher because he left his homeland, and is taking his own efforts to do his part for the family. Asher went to Essos, Bran went to the three-eyed raven.
Just my opinion, but I also noticed many parallels with GRRM's story.
* Gregor - Nedd (dead/dead) = Honorable Lord
* Rodrik - Jon (alive/alive. Confirmed Season 6) = Same as Lord
* Talia - Arya (alive/alive) … more= Violent and Reckless
* Ryon - Rickon (alive/unknown) = Young Son
* Elissa - Catlynn (dead/dead) = Insane Mother
* Asher - Robb (dead/dead) = Spur-of-the-moment Son
* Mira - Sansa (dead/alive) = Innocent-turned-liar daughter
* Ethan - Bran (dead/alive) = Young Lord
I don't know. They're following the Starks pretty close.
Ep 6 was a little bit disappointing for me foresters had no chance in winning the fight Mira, dead, Asher dead I choose him to die for the glory of foresters but...nothing turned well house of foresters were torn apart and everyone died, by the divines there was no way to save them all, what garrets gonna save them? I feel sorry for them god I think I'm gonna kill the writer.....
Got's telltale is planned on several seasons... So of course you can't win in the first season.
So yes, your choices can't change the end of the battle of Ironrath, but it's logical in the story too: they outnumber us.
But, if the last choices of season 1 (leaving or not the north grove for example) don't matter in S2, I won't be happy with it.
I decided to not married with this asshole one he was a piece of shit and second Tom would die then. He helped me thousands times i couldnt let him die not all can survive and i had bet for him
It was very sad and annoying that Mira's story had to end like this because she was becoming a wonderful character...telltale shud have done… more better with the plot...I opted out of the marriage that would have saved her because it would not make any sense...Ironrath would still have fallen and Lord whitehill would still be in control and her story will fade....I just hope I didn't make a wrong choice...what do u guys think?
Honestly, I think the choice for Mira was more to determine if you'd play as her or not. If you choose to marry then you get to play as her for the next season. I don't believe they are going to end her story like that because she will be a major player. The reason she is a major player is because Asher/Rodrick are still alive. She could be an inside woman to try to gather information. Also she will still own House Forrester if I can remember its just not her running it. So I believe that she will be a major story line if you chose to keep her alive. If she is dead in your game than you will miss out on a storyline.
maybe margaery come to execution and shout "stop" she is my handmaiden! by the way i always loyal to margaery, the political in king landing always make me want spit in high queen. so i choose margaery beside my family.
What I'd like to know is:
1) Is King's Landing still going to be included in season 2?
2) If it is, then who would be the playable charact… moreer there if not Mira?
I find it hard to believe that they would exclude KL from season 2, however unlikely it might seem; it is still possible.
Mira is (in my playthrough she is alive) my favorite playable character in the game.That said, I may be the wrong person to be typing it, but here it goes: It certainly is too soon to point out if Telltale either did or not a "major mistake". See, I sadly agree to the tesis that she will not be playable as for season two (at least not for the beginning of it). Due to the fact that if she either lives or dies, she does not appears in the final screen. So, in my very opinion, Telltale has put Mira in a position where we will not be playing her for now (whitch is sad but not a "mistake" just yet). If I recall it right, there was only a shadow of each Rodrik and Asher in the very first episode. I do believe that if you let her live, she will be playable again (or at least useful). Remember, we do need a POV in KL, and Mira is the one for the job, no doubt about that.
Well it also gave people (like myself) a very direct view into the politics that went down in the Game of Thrones world. And it introduces a lot of characters that affected Ironwrath from a distant place.
I honestly have less of a problem with Ethan's death than I do with Mira's death.
Ramsey's a psychopath, can't expect him to be predictable. But kings landing isn't the Dreadfort (or wherever the Boltons hail from).
And maybe your right, maybe Mira was meant to die from the beginning. But let's be honest, we all could've framed a better way for anyone to lose the GoT in kings landing. Just like the destroyer of worlds in borderlands, this must've been a time thing. They probably had a much better way for Mira to die in this season, but development is a bitch sometimes.
I still think it was fine. I mean perhaps Mira was always supposed to die but here unlike ethan for example they gave her a way to be saved.… more Also they had to give consequences for actions, If Mira wants to be stubborn and turn down the only option she has to live then thats it
Naw it will only be one of them. I would guess Tom or Sera. It will not be Mira as she might be dead. we can hope for is Mira being a NPC that we see and interact with. That's my guess.
I agree. Mira did a lot of illegal things in Kings Landing and pissed off a lot of powerful people. I'm just happy they threw in a way for her to escape death
I still think it was fine. I mean perhaps Mira was always supposed to die but here unlike ethan for example they gave her a way to be saved.… more Also they had to give consequences for actions, If Mira wants to be stubborn and turn down the only option she has to live then thats it
Realistically speaking, I suppose a mere handmaiden could have only gone so far playing the game, Mira was never in a real position to build her own power base like Cersei and Margaery could. I really enjoyed her character and story and it would have been so interesting to see what would have happened to her during the events of Season 5 when both Cersei and Margaery were imprisoned.
But really Mira's lack of power in a place infested with those constantly vying for more made her noble struggle to save her family all the more relatable to me the player, as for the first time I truly felt like a part of Kings Landing through her, an ordinary person with no power learning to subtly manipulate the elites to use them for my own purposes. But she's gone now, with no obvious replacement POV for Kings Landing.
Maybe KL won't even be a POW in S2. But now I do wonder how Mira's final choice will impact the storyline of Season 2, if at all.
The only way I can really see Sera being able to help the Foresters, is if in the future she sends soldiers to assist. This is of course provided that:
1) Mira had a good enough relationship with her.
2) Didn't tell Lord Tarwick about Sera's bastardy, thus allowing her to marry Lord Tarwick and manage to persuade him to assist the Foresters.
I doubt they would use Tom, unless they actually intend to use both Tom and Mira, like they did with Rodrik and Asher. However it is likely that they would end up trying to kill them off again.
@SincereKil thank you, I'm glad I'm not the only one on these boards who sees the potential for Mira's character to still have a significant role to play. Rather than the "omg Mira is going to be made a baby making sex slave" I guess these guys haven't heard of moon tea before.
Now I know I'm also not the only one on these boards who have noticed the striking similarities between the Stark family and the Foresters. I said from the start that Morgryn had a Little Finger vibe about him. Now in the show, Little Finger seems to have a thing for Sansa Stark (he could of course be playing Sansa in this regard too). So it makes me wonder if there is the potential for Morgryn over time to see Mira in a similar way (without playing her). This is of course depending on how you have treated Morgryn since the end of season 1. Now you as Mira could also use this to your advantage.
Honestly, I think the choice for Mira was more to determine if you'd play as her or not. If you choose to marry then you get to play as her… more for the next season. I don't believe they are going to end her story like that because she will be a major player. The reason she is a major player is because Asher/Rodrick are still alive. She could be an inside woman to try to gather information. Also she will still own House Forrester if I can remember its just not her running it. So I believe that she will be a major story line if you chose to keep her alive. If she is dead in your game than you will miss out on a storyline.
That's the thing though isn't it. A big part of the reason why GOT is so popular is because of the political intrigue. Admittedly most of this does take place in King's Landing and of course in the rest of the seven kingdoms. So I think it would be a mistake to totally disregard King's Landing as a location in season 2. Unless of course they are able to make up for the void outside of King's Landing somehow.
Realistically speaking, I suppose a mere handmaiden could have only gone so far playing the game, Mira was never in a real position to build… more her own power base like Cersei and Margaery could. I really enjoyed her character and story and it would have been so interesting to see what would have happened to her during the events of Season 5 when both Cersei and Margaery were imprisoned.
But really Mira's lack of power in a place infested with those constantly vying for more made her noble struggle to save her family all the more relatable to me the player, as for the first time I truly felt like a part of Kings Landing through her, an ordinary person with no power learning to subtly manipulate the elites to use them for my own purposes. But she's gone now, with no obvious replacement POV for Kings Landing.
Maybe KL won't even be a POW in S2. But now I do wonder how Mira's final choice will impact the storyline of Season 2, if at all.
It is difficult to predict just what Telltale is planning - the only non-determinant event is the fall of Ironrath, while Gared can either stay in the North Grove or return and Mira is either dead or alive - its difficult to see how this will all form into a singular new narrative in Season 2 - even if it has multiple beginnings they won't last long before moving on to the main plot.
But if TWD S3 will also do so then maybe so will GoT S2, its just sad that Mira's storyline came to a abrupt and unsatisfying end... yet it was also probably the most logical route... but it would have been more fun if we played Mira escaping Kings Landing, but I suppose the ending reminded us that Mira Forrester was still a handmaiden with no real power.
A shame since if she survived and entered the ironwood trade she could have risen from handmaiden to merchant and have considerably more influence.
Season 2 could have covered Mira's steady rise to power not with the ranks of the nobility but among the lower ranked lords like Morgryn - she could have been a very interesting counterpart to Sansa Stark - there was the potential for another KL storyline where she finds herself reacting to the events of Season 5.
That's the thing though isn't it. A big part of the reason why GOT is so popular is because of the political intrigue. Admittedly most of … morethis does take place in King's Landing and of course in the rest of the seven kingdoms. So I think it would be a mistake to totally disregard King's Landing as a location in season 2. Unless of course they are able to make up for the void outside of King's Landing somehow.
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I don't know. They're following the Starks pretty close.
I still think it was fine. I mean perhaps Mira was always supposed to die but here unlike ethan for example they gave her a way to be saved. Also they had to give consequences for actions, If Mira wants to be stubborn and turn down the only option she has to live then thats it
King's Landing will probably remain a significant story location, but probably not with Mira as POV character.
As Episode 6 ends, either Tom or Mira will be dead, but the other will still be in King's Landing operating at a reduced capacity. The surviving character may be used to introduce us to Tom's unseen allies, mentioned in that episode, The new POV character may be one of them or connect to them. An obvious possibility is that Tom is one of Varys' spiders.
Morgryn may be the new POV as well. It should be fairly easy to convince him to defend the Forresters at least circunstantially. Stranger things have happened.
There is a line in Ironrath's plot in Episode 6 that states that Mira's efforts had an effect on the size of the Whitehill army. It is possible that the number of survivors and their overall situation will carry that effect into Season 2.
Although I am still hoping that Telltale may decide to fork Season 2 into Asher and Rodrik POV storylines, as they did with Episode 6 to a degree. That would allow them to potentially double their future GOT line with a relatively lessened amount of work.
Margaery couldn't risk that. If you played your cards right and she really doesn't want you dismissed, I was lead to believe she may come to your aid in season 2 with Lord Morgryn, but she specifically said she won't do anything helpful until the "rumors" are laid to rest. Would have been nice, though.
I'd put Gared as Jon (neither had the birth rite, both went to the wall), Rodrick as Robb (first borns and respected leader, also each of them lead their houses to war), and Ethan and Asher are similar to different parts of Bran. Ethan, for the reasons you gave, Asher because he left his homeland, and is taking his own efforts to do his part for the family. Asher went to Essos, Bran went to the three-eyed raven.
Just my opinion, but I also noticed many parallels with GRRM's story.
Ep 6 was a little bit disappointing for me foresters had no chance in winning the fight Mira, dead, Asher dead I choose him to die for the glory of foresters but...nothing turned well house of foresters were torn apart and everyone died, by the divines there was no way to save them all, what garrets gonna save them? I feel sorry for them god I think I'm gonna kill the writer.....
Got's telltale is planned on several seasons... So of course you can't win in the first season.
So yes, your choices can't change the end of the battle of Ironrath, but it's logical in the story too: they outnumber us.
But, if the last choices of season 1 (leaving or not the north grove for example) don't matter in S2, I won't be happy with it.
I decided to not married with this asshole one he was a piece of shit and second Tom would die then. He helped me thousands times i couldnt let him die not all can survive and i had bet for him
Maybe it was a anticipation of what she thought would happen but in season 2 she gets saved from execution or imprisonment.
Honestly, I think the choice for Mira was more to determine if you'd play as her or not. If you choose to marry then you get to play as her for the next season. I don't believe they are going to end her story like that because she will be a major player. The reason she is a major player is because Asher/Rodrick are still alive. She could be an inside woman to try to gather information. Also she will still own House Forrester if I can remember its just not her running it. So I believe that she will be a major story line if you chose to keep her alive. If she is dead in your game than you will miss out on a storyline.
Margaery has her own shit to deal with.
I'm thinking, Mira (if she is alive in your playthrough), Tom (if Mira is dead), or Sera (if you're on good terms with her and if Mira is dead).
Mira is (in my playthrough she is alive) my favorite playable character in the game.That said, I may be the wrong person to be typing it, but here it goes: It certainly is too soon to point out if Telltale either did or not a "major mistake". See, I sadly agree to the tesis that she will not be playable as for season two (at least not for the beginning of it). Due to the fact that if she either lives or dies, she does not appears in the final screen. So, in my very opinion, Telltale has put Mira in a position where we will not be playing her for now (whitch is sad but not a "mistake" just yet). If I recall it right, there was only a shadow of each Rodrik and Asher in the very first episode. I do believe that if you let her live, she will be playable again (or at least useful). Remember, we do need a POV in KL, and Mira is the one for the job, no doubt about that.
But even if you play the game well, you lose. You can do the smart things and still you'll see the sword.
I mean, it matters if you choose to accept Morgryns terms or not.
But this is GoT, not ASOIAF, where people are glamoured sometimes into taking executions for other people. Which I don't think even happened
I honestly have less of a problem with Ethan's death than I do with Mira's death.
Ramsey's a psychopath, can't expect him to be predictable. But kings landing isn't the Dreadfort (or wherever the Boltons hail from).
And maybe your right, maybe Mira was meant to die from the beginning. But let's be honest, we all could've framed a better way for anyone to lose the GoT in kings landing. Just like the destroyer of worlds in borderlands, this must've been a time thing. They probably had a much better way for Mira to die in this season, but development is a bitch sometimes.
Naw it will only be one of them. I would guess Tom or Sera. It will not be Mira as she might be dead. we can hope for is Mira being a NPC that we see and interact with. That's my guess.
I agree. Mira did a lot of illegal things in Kings Landing and pissed off a lot of powerful people. I'm just happy they threw in a way for her to escape death
Realistically speaking, I suppose a mere handmaiden could have only gone so far playing the game, Mira was never in a real position to build her own power base like Cersei and Margaery could. I really enjoyed her character and story and it would have been so interesting to see what would have happened to her during the events of Season 5 when both Cersei and Margaery were imprisoned.
But really Mira's lack of power in a place infested with those constantly vying for more made her noble struggle to save her family all the more relatable to me the player, as for the first time I truly felt like a part of Kings Landing through her, an ordinary person with no power learning to subtly manipulate the elites to use them for my own purposes. But she's gone now, with no obvious replacement POV for Kings Landing.
Maybe KL won't even be a POW in S2. But now I do wonder how Mira's final choice will impact the storyline of Season 2, if at all.
While I wish this was definitely the case, it actually says in the codex that Mira died in King's Landing.
The only way I can really see Sera being able to help the Foresters, is if in the future she sends soldiers to assist. This is of course provided that:
1) Mira had a good enough relationship with her.
2) Didn't tell Lord Tarwick about Sera's bastardy, thus allowing her to marry Lord Tarwick and manage to persuade him to assist the Foresters.
I doubt they would use Tom, unless they actually intend to use both Tom and Mira, like they did with Rodrik and Asher. However it is likely that they would end up trying to kill them off again.
@SincereKil thank you, I'm glad I'm not the only one on these boards who sees the potential for Mira's character to still have a significant role to play. Rather than the "omg Mira is going to be made a baby making sex slave" I guess these guys haven't heard of moon tea before.
Now I know I'm also not the only one on these boards who have noticed the striking similarities between the Stark family and the Foresters. I said from the start that Morgryn had a Little Finger vibe about him. Now in the show, Little Finger seems to have a thing for Sansa Stark (he could of course be playing Sansa in this regard too). So it makes me wonder if there is the potential for Morgryn over time to see Mira in a similar way (without playing her). This is of course depending on how you have treated Morgryn since the end of season 1. Now you as Mira could also use this to your advantage.
That's the thing though isn't it. A big part of the reason why GOT is so popular is because of the political intrigue. Admittedly most of this does take place in King's Landing and of course in the rest of the seven kingdoms. So I think it would be a mistake to totally disregard King's Landing as a location in season 2. Unless of course they are able to make up for the void outside of King's Landing somehow.
It is difficult to predict just what Telltale is planning - the only non-determinant event is the fall of Ironrath, while Gared can either stay in the North Grove or return and Mira is either dead or alive - its difficult to see how this will all form into a singular new narrative in Season 2 - even if it has multiple beginnings they won't last long before moving on to the main plot.
But if TWD S3 will also do so then maybe so will GoT S2, its just sad that Mira's storyline came to a abrupt and unsatisfying end... yet it was also probably the most logical route... but it would have been more fun if we played Mira escaping Kings Landing, but I suppose the ending reminded us that Mira Forrester was still a handmaiden with no real power.
A shame since if she survived and entered the ironwood trade she could have risen from handmaiden to merchant and have considerably more influence.
Season 2 could have covered Mira's steady rise to power not with the ranks of the nobility but among the lower ranked lords like Morgryn - she could have been a very interesting counterpart to Sansa Stark - there was the potential for another KL storyline where she finds herself reacting to the events of Season 5.