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I won at Tic Tac Doom, but the COPS won't give me the talisman. What do I do?

xxxnxxxn
edited January 2008 in Sam & Max's House of Hints
I beat the COPS at Tic Tac Doom, but they won't give me their talisman. How do I make them give it to me? Max's hint didn't help me. Please tell me. Thanks.

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  • EmilyEmily Telltale Alumni
    edited April 2007
    Sinistar's like a little kid... he would *really* like to win...
  • ShaggEShaggE
    edited April 2007
    Hint:
    It's better to have played and lost than to have won and recieved nothing at all
  • MaratanosMaratanos
    edited April 2007
    Random comments that are incredibly spoilery:
    I thought this puzzle was absolutely BRILLIANT.


    Everyone plays to win. So by making a Tic-tac-toe AI that is easy to win against, you can be fairly sure most people will win unless they're trying not to.

    But it gets better. Telltale made a Tic-tac-toe AI that is HARD to LOSE against. Which is of course the point of the puzzle. You won't lose by accident, and yet you won't normally think to win on purpose.

    It's absolutely one of the best designed puzzles I've ever seen.
  • All hail MaxAll hail Max
    edited May 2007
    Maybe some people will never solve this puzzle because they're too proud of themselves to lose on purpose
  • Panda90Panda90
    edited May 2007
    I agree, i thought that this was one of the best puzzles of season 1. I would continuw but i can't find the spoiler tag button :confused: Edit on its way :P
  • jmmjmm
    edited May 2007
    just write [ spoiler ] and [ /spoiler ] (without spaces)
  • RabidZombieRabidZombie
    edited May 2007
    This isn't a hint, it is a flat out spoiler. So don't read unless you've completed Ep 6
    It made me cringe solving this puzzle. My pride made it difficult, but it if killing Hugh meant loosing my pride, it would have to be.
  • personguypersonguy
    edited May 2007
    Nice puzzle, but it's not too original (SPOILERS for sam & max episode 6)
    In Kyrandia 3 (old PC game): there was also a Tic Tac Toe game you had to lose in order to progress (with the opponent having a similar playing style)
    ... And who knows if that was the first instance of this puzzle as well? But then again, I can't expect all puzzles to be original.
  • fpostmafpostma
    edited May 2007
    I was actually wondering about this, was that game really designed to be
    hard to LOOSE from
    ?? I sure looked that way to me, which I thought was a great touch.

    I'll be off to attempt some progress in the remainder of that episode though, kinda lost at the moment :)
  • AdamGAdamG
    edited May 2007
    At first glance, it might appear the AI for Tic Tac Doom is extremely bad. But actually it's at a whole new level of advanced algorithms that the world has never seen before. It's very... Unconventional! :p
    Yes, it was definately made to be hard to lose. That's why the AI is actually as good as the COPS said it was. :p
  • -=[The_Razgriz_Ace]=--=[The_Razgriz_Ace]=-
    edited September 2007
    Its not actually that difficult to lose...although I had some practice because I lost 16 games in a row to my friend once...XD I know...that sucks...what I found was that it was kinda annoying (not hard...annoying) to win..because the AI put the circles in totally random positions...but losing wasnt too hard...just a matter of forcing yourself to lose in the first place...
  • MaratanosMaratanos
    edited September 2007
    Actually, no. The AI TRIES to lose. If you'll look, it's not placing them in random locations, it's placing them in the optimal locations to ensure that it loses. The goal is to be better than it at losing, and it's actually quite hard when it knows what it's doing.
  • matanmatan
    edited September 2007
    I actually remember 5 years ago when I was learning Java I was given an assignment to create a Tic Tac Toe game. For the first phase, I focused on the graphical user interface and didn't want to implement an AI, so I just made the AI completely random.

    I remember after a few rounds of playing, I found out that the random AI is very hard to lose to, and had a lot of fun playing it for a while, trying to lose...
  • -=[The_Razgriz_Ace]=--=[The_Razgriz_Ace]=-
    edited September 2007
    I guess I can see now that it is trying to lose...as I said though, it wasnt that difficult to lose...you just have to dictate where it places the circles...maybe an interesting sort of test is if you can play for a draw...I wonder if anyone has done this...
  • Tristen778Tristen778
    edited November 2007
    You have to lose at Tic Tac Doom then the C.O.P.S. will think they are advanced and made a hard AI and will give you the talisman.

    It's that easy well not realy you have to give him 2 in a row and 1 open in a 3-in-a-row style so when he's all out of other moves he'll go for the last one and bam they'll think they made a super advanced AI and rub it in Sam's face then he'll make it seem as if he lost because the game was too hard then Max will wanna beat them but never gets the chance then the arcade game guy will open his insert coins here thing and you'll be able to get the talisman


    And that's how you get past:D
  • AnvilaniaAnvilania
    edited January 2008
    You literaly have to win i mean lose at Tic Tac Doom to get the talisman it took me awhile to find that out talismen
    the only helps once through out the whole episode it lets you
    see through the door to Haugh's led seild Door to get the bowling ball to press the button (with the spoon bending talismen)
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