Episode 2 release date discussion- No word from TTG on the subject of release date so far.

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  • I very much regret purchasing the season pass. The reason being I expected episode two to have come out long before episode one became free and the season pass price dropping.

    Jesus, I didn't even think of that. On Xbox the first episode is now free and the season pass has gone on sale multiple times on multiple platforms, without any additional content coming out since the launch. That is really bad.

    I very much regret purchasing the season pass. The reason being I expected episode two to have come out long before episode one became free an

  • So now let's get back to our Quality Assurance work. (Still not polished nearly enough, I say!)

    Sjejse posted: »

    Damn, you saw right through us, me and 99% of the other users in this post are actually TellTale staff. Well played. Well played.

  • Dude!
    Our contractual obligations restrict us from revealing that kind of information! Aw, the boss is gonna be pissed ...

    Sjejse posted: »

    Damn, you saw right through us, me and 99% of the other users in this post are actually TellTale staff. Well played. Well played.

  • I'm not happy with the long wait, but I do feel bad for Telltale because sometimes they get screwed with fan expectations.

    For instance, with The Walking Dead, Steam prematurely made a release window of "November 2013" public before Telltale said anything. When November came and went, people started posting comments on their Facebook about how Telltale "lied" and "couldn't keep up with their deadlines."

    The team didn't say All That Remains was coming out in November one time. If Steam had that release window, it's reasonable to think TT was aiming for November, but if they didn't make it public themselves they obviously weren't ready to promise the fans anything. So to hold that against them is unfair.

  • I check in every so often to see where we are with release of TWAU Episode 2 and now The Walking Dead Season 2. Whilst I will certainly continue to play Telltale games because I like the story based stuff and enjoy their franchises (big fan of TWD, Fables and GoT like most modern geeks).
    However, the waits for new episodes is a bit of a joke.

    Imagine the general public getting in to their favourite TV show (Game of Thrones, Homeland etc...) and being told that after each episode you must wait an indeterminate amount of time for the next episode. TV companies and film companies can manage these things weeks, months and even years in advance. If Telltale want to cross over in to the mainstream perhaps they should have more of their games complete before releasing episode 1 of each individual story.

    Do they do this as they change the game lots as it goes or do they just want to milk the cash cow as soon as each individual episode is ready rather than waiting for 3 or 4 to be complete?

  • From behind the ever-silent closed doors in the marketing offices of Telltale HQ, the quiet is never broken, but by the forlorn whisper of a pooch being screwed...

  • I remember watching some talk after The Walking Dead S1 finished and someone said they take fan input (if a big majority made a particular decision, or if the fans really like/hate a character) into consideration. So the game might change a lot.

    sc4recrow posted: »

    I check in every so often to see where we are with release of TWAU Episode 2 and now The Walking Dead Season 2. Whilst I will certainly conti

  • ... or the hushed splat of the sh** hitting the fan ...

    From behind the ever-silent closed doors in the marketing offices of Telltale HQ, the quiet is never broken, but by the forlorn whisper of a pooch being screwed...

  • I heard that, too, from a moderator on this forum. If it creates three-month delays, I'm against it. It smacks of beta testing.

    Sodhipop posted: »

    I remember watching some talk after The Walking Dead S1 finished and someone said they take fan input (if a big majority made a particular decision, or if the fans really like/hate a character) into consideration. So the game might change a lot.

  • edited January 2014

    I can't help but think it feels like a lack of artistic direction. I understand taking fans views broadly in to account but have the integrity to tell a story you want to tell. There is an irony in them taking fan choices too heavily in to account. Are they telling us the story or are we telling them the story that they then tell us?

    Silent Dan posted: »

    I heard that, too, from a moderator on this forum. If it creates three-month delays, I'm against it. It smacks of beta testing.

  • edited January 2014

    I think its time to discuss walking dead season 2 episode 2 release date. Its been quite a few weeks since episode 1 came out. Going to a walking dead forum.

    I really hope they are not developing these episodes 1 episode per game. They promised a total of 2 episodes every 4-5 weeks for both games.

  • I know what you mean. I don't think it's "direction" exactly, but I was thinking "confidence" and it isn't exactly that either. At the risk of coming across as incredibly cheesy, might it be a lack of ... Faith?

    Oh, pipe down! I can hear you booing that joke all the way from here. :P

    sc4recrow posted: »

    I can't help but think it feels like a lack of artistic direction. I understand taking fans views broadly in to account but have the integrit

  • CathalOHaraCathalOHara Moderator
    edited January 2014

    Even if we were following Telltale's old schedule (when they released games monthly) it would still be too early to talk about the next Walking Dead episode. It's not even been a month out yet.

    Plus I wouldn't believe that FAQ, episodes oftentimes don't come out for about eight or so weeks since The Walking Dead started. But the wait for the next episode of TWAU has gotten a bit out of control. They should give us SOMETHING at least. I mean, that Jack update really doesn't count. It's January. And we're almost half-way through the month.

    Unknnnnn posted: »

    I think its time to discuss walking dead season 2 episode 2 release date. Its been quite a few weeks since episode 1 came out. Going to a walk

  • Yeah,I should have definitely waited instead of letting my hype get the better of me. TTG has taught me a very good lesson and I have learned it well. Nothing was gained by paying more earlier because I would have been in the same place at this moment had I waited, except with more money. Also the wait probably would feel shorter, since I would have already invest time in multiple plays that I have mostly forgotten. I do wish they would give information more frequently I would feel less like I got conned. Buy high and wait or by low and wait. Only buying cheap for me here on out since there is no advantage in buying higher price season pass, especially because its not like multiple episodes went by while waiting on a price drop. Very frustrating.

    Sodhipop posted: »

    I very much regret purchasing the season pass. The reason being I expected episode two to have come out long before episode one became free an

  • Typical Telltale to be under the wire with their time frame.

  • I have been here since the release of TOMI. The only time TellTale has had a debacle this bad was with Jurassic Park and that worries me about TWAU. We waited for JP then when the original date came we waited and waited to find out the game would be delayed and then released as one whole game. It was a huge disappointment. Then the game its self was disappointing in some ways. I really enjoyed the first episode of this game and I hope something isn't wrong but this lack of communication is something new from Telltale. I can remember them adding their input and showing up going back to Back to the Future. It even seems that Alan man have commented on Walking Dead Season one. This silence is odd and not something I'm familiar with and I certainly hope they know if they explained the situation to us most of us would understand.

  • Wrong forum. Look up, look way up...

    Unknnnnn posted: »

    I think its time to discuss walking dead season 2 episode 2 release date. Its been quite a few weeks since episode 1 came out. Going to a walk

  • And back 70+ pages of venom and confusion.

    Cyreen posted: »

    Wrong forum. Look up, look way up...

  • edited January 2014

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    Dont be rude.

  • Devs please post an estimated time or anything. Something is better then nothing.

  • I think they have the story written but change some aspects each episode based on fan interaction. Like the decision with Larry in Episode 2 was a big deal, and an episode of Playing Dead hinted that they put that decision in due to players saying that they wanted to "kill Larry" so Telltale responded with, "Okay, here you go."

    sc4recrow posted: »

    I can't help but think it feels like a lack of artistic direction. I understand taking fans views broadly in to account but have the integrit

  • Okay I was being a bit understanding earlier but Early January is a really vague timeframe. We're almost half-way through January, you'd think Episode 2 would've had some news by now.

  • I don't know about that, since most players tried to save Larry, and killing him wasn't an option; he dies regardless. That doesn't add up in my mind.

  • what do you get when you cross telltale with a deadline..... my A#%

  • Maybe the reason it is taking so long is because of Prince Lawrance. In episode 1 if you go to Toads house first, Prince Lawrance dies. If you go to Prince Lawrance house first, he lives. They have to tell two stories. One story has Prince Lawrance alive and the other story has him dead. This is just a guess.

  • That's basically best case scenario, and I wondered as I made that choice how much of an impact it will actually have on the story. As much as I love Telltale's Games, the Walking Dead did have a lot of "illusion of choice" moments where the ultimate conclusion was the same regardless of the player's actions. In fact, virtually all of the major story events were like this.

    I would be totally stoked if they went the distance and actually had several branching storylines. Unfortunately, I have my doubts that Lawrence will even survive Episode 2, let alone the rest of the season, and I think it's going to end up being a Carley/Doug moment where someone else will fill in for Lawrence if he's dead and fill in whatever he brings to the story. It's a real shame, but until Telltale proves otherwise, I think Lawrence is a dead man walking.

  • JenniferJennifer Moderator
    edited January 2014

    I doubt this will be a situation like Jurassic Park: The Game. A longer than usual development period between the first and second episodes isn't uncommon with Telltale's games (it's actually been their modus operandi since Back to the Future: The Game). They took an extra month to develop the second episode Back to the Future: The Game, and upped the projected development time for The Walking Dead: Season One to two months instead of one (and they've been making longer than usual development periods between the first and second season since all the way back to their first episodic series, Bone). They're taking an extra month of development time for the second episode of The Wolf Among Us as well. The reason they do this is to incorporate fan and critic feedback into the game in order to improve the game based on fan desires for the rest of the season (they refined the gameplay of The Walking Dead, adding direct controlled action sequences, and added a joke about batteries based on fan response to a puzzle in episode 1, and way back in Bone, they changed the mini games to a boss puzzle system (which was later used in some of their best games) and added a joke about the length of the first game based on fan criticism of the first Bone). There's nothing to worry about for the longer than usual development time between the first and second episodes, as it results in a better game, and the remaining episodes will come at a quicker pace once the tweaks have been made.

    Telltale's PR person @puzzlebox has been making weekly updates posting that they're still working on their games. She last updated on the 7th of this month stating that Telltale is busy working on their games, and on the 3rd of this month she made an update saying that the team has been working on the second episode of The Wolf Among Us, and that they have continued to do so throughout the holidays. She also said that a larger update would be coming soon after the holidays, which cover the Christmas and New Year holidays. Now that those holidays are over, that larger update will be here any moment now. Internal beta versions of the episode have been updated to Steam at a pretty steady rate (remember that Telltale works on the computer versions of the game right up to the day of release, so the fact that the internal Steam beta versions are coming pretty quickly is good news), and Australia Classification has rated the episode. Those are really good signs that episode 2 is coming out soon. Based on those pieces of evidence, the larger update could be coming as soon as this week, and the release will come shortly after that (since Telltale doesn't make large announcements until the game is near release).

    Dameon2k posted: »

    I have been here since the release of TOMI. The only time TellTale has had a debacle this bad was with Jurassic Park and that worries me abou

  • Jennifer, you and I may disagree as to what constitutes an "update". To me, telling us they are working on the game is not an update. Sheeesh, of course they are working on the game!

    And where did you get this "They're taking an extra month of development time for the second episode of The Wolf Among Us as well."? The first episode was released on October 11 so some time between November 11 and November 26 would have been on time. Some time between Dec 11 and Dec 26 would have been an extra month and currently we are now in the two extra months timeframe!

    Jennifer posted: »

    I doubt this will be a situation like Jurassic Park: The Game. A longer than usual development period between the first and second episodes i

  • JenniferJennifer Moderator
    edited January 2014

    Telltale can't possibly have more to tell other than that they are still working on the games before they have a release date, and they can't post release dates until they get those dates back from their distribution partners (since Sony and Microsoft are still stuck in the traditional console mode of thinking, and don't let digital publishers set their own release dates). It's good that they've been posting weekly updates stating that the game is still in development, as there are a lot of posts in this thread that worry that the game could be cancelled due to the long development time, and these constant reassurances should put those worries to rest.

    Telltale's current usual development time (based on the releases of The Walking Dead) ranges from 6 to 8 weeks. Three months is one month extra, and as their history has shown, taking an extra month of development time for episode 2 to make changes based on fan and critic feedback is the usual mode of operation for Telltale Games.

    infocommie posted: »

    Jennifer, you and I may disagree as to what constitutes an "update". To me, telling us they are working on the game is not an update. Sheeesh,

  • edited January 2014

    This is just for those who don't know what the Q1,Q2.Q3.Q4 means

    The calendar year can be divided into 4 quarters, often abbreviated Q1, Q2, Q3 and Q4:

    First quarter: from the beginning of January to the end of March

    Second quarter: from the beginning of April to the end of June

    Third quarter: from the beginning of July to the end of September

    Fourth quarter: from the beginning of October to the end of December

  • Baloney! An update should be, well, an update. Not a reassurance that the game has not been cancelled yet!

    I have read on this site in the past, that 4-6 weeks is the typical time for an episode so your 6-8 adds 2 weeks. Then you factor in some arbitrary "oh they always add a month for episode 2" and imply they are right on schedule!

    I call bullcrap! Episode 2 should have been released in November and now it is mid-January and still no game in sight.

    Jennifer posted: »

    Telltale can't possibly have more to tell other than that they are still working on the games before they have a release date, and they can't

  • I am... quite surprised really. Or rather dismayed I perhaps should say.

    I have until now deliberately avoided the WaU forum since I wanted to purchase everything in one go and play th game in a single day, and now I find that WaU still only has one episode released? After what, 4 months?

    I read up a little and apparently TTG is still going with their usual MO of not talking to the fans regarding updates.

    This is bad. I'm full of understanding if a game gets postponed for one reason or another, but that's no excuse for not going out and telling people "sorry, but the next episode will be delayed because of..." That's just bad form and disrespectful of people who bought the game. Personally, had I bought the game and been met with silence regarding the next episode, I would demand my money back.

    TTG apparently has someone working the PR department if I remember the credits from TWD s02E01 right. That person needs a kick in the ass or a kick out of the door, because this work performance is worthless.

  • JenniferJennifer Moderator
    edited January 2014

    There was never any official timeframe set for The Wolf Among Us, as the official FAQ only states that episodes will be released periodically. We can only go by Telltale's past releases as a rough guideline as to when the next episodes would be released. Looking at their past release history does bring some hope that the long development time won't continue indefinitely though, as all of the seasons that have had a long development time for the second episode to add changes based on fan and critic feedback have had a quicker release schedule for the following episodes.

    infocommie posted: »

    Baloney! An update should be, well, an update. Not a reassurance that the game has not been cancelled yet! I have read on this site in the

  • You actually can set a release date when publishing for the XBox - this release date just has to be after the official approval process is passed. Which from my perspective is a good thing to make sure that the quality matches at least a baseline. I'm pretty sure that Sony offers a similiar way of Publishing...

    Jennifer posted: »

    Telltale can't possibly have more to tell other than that they are still working on the games before they have a release date, and they can't

  • It doesn't work that way for digital publishing through PSN or XBLA though, since Sony and Microsoft are completely in control of when the games are released on those platforms (as they only set aside space for a certain amount of games per week, and they only release games on certain days). It's an archaic system, but unfortunately digital publishers have to jump through those hoops if they want to get their games out on those platforms.

    roundabout posted: »

    You actually can set a release date when publishing for the XBox - this release date just has to be after the official approval process is pas

  • what if they delayed ep2 because they need to work on walking dead season 2 ? ttg game developers already stated that they were working on twau ep3 and ep4, twd ep1 and ep2. maybe ep2 is already done but i think they are working on walking dead at the moment to release them at the same month

  • oh okay... Just assumed it was the same as with the Windows Phone Marketplace... there you can specify a release date as long as there is enough time left for the approval process.

    Jennifer posted: »

    It doesn't work that way for digital publishing through PSN or XBLA though, since Sony and Microsoft are completely in control of when the gam

  • To me it doesn't even matter anymore on which episodes of which games they are working as an excuse for the delays because I already came to the conclusion NEVER to buy a season pass of a TTGame again before the game is completely finished.
    So as soon as all episodes are released after delays of several months and the game will be available for 5 bucks on Steam or elsewhere -> that's the time to act .... if that's also the time for TTG to bust out .... well, you had it coming.

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