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It doesn't work that way for digital publishing through PSN or XBLA though, since Sony and Microsoft are completely in control of when the gam… morees are released on those platforms (as they only set aside space for a certain amount of games per week, and they only release games on certain days). It's an archaic system, but unfortunately digital publishers have to jump through those hoops if they want to get their games out on those platforms.
That would be the most disrespectful way for Telltale games to treat all their fans of The Wolf Among Us. Sure I like The walking dead but after playing TWAU I have a new favorite. It's to bad the better game is in the shadow of the more mainstream/popular game.
what if they delayed ep2 because they need to work on walking dead season 2 ? ttg game developers already stated that they were working on twa… moreu ep3 and ep4, twd ep1 and ep2. maybe ep2 is already done but i think they are working on walking dead at the moment to release them at the same month
There actually IS a promised timeframe; the steam page says that all episodes will be released by Summer 2014, if they can't hold to that then I consider it to be false advertising, since having all the episodes by Summer 2014 was what was agreed on when I bought the product.
There was never any official timeframe set for The Wolf Among Us, as the official FAQ only states that episodes will be released periodically.… more We can only go by Telltale's past releases as a rough guideline as to when the next episodes would be released. Looking at their past release history does bring some hope that the long development time won't continue indefinitely though, as all of the seasons that have had a long development time for the second episode to add changes based on fan and critic feedback have had a quicker release schedule for the following episodes.
I am mostly disappointed, as a longterm customer. Telltale need to tell their fans the cause of the delay and be in constant communication. That would be the sensible thing to do and will keep their reputation intact. Anybody can understand delays, but customers don't like to be kept in the dark.
...Like I said: The Walking Dead is their flagship, and top-seller. When The Wolf Among Us went live it stayed in focus for a week or so. The Walking Dead: Season Two is still a top-seller on Steam, and is always in focus. It'd be obvious for them to put more workforce, and finish get The Walking Dead: Season Two ready to release as soon as possible once The Wolf Among Us is out.
That would be the most disrespectful way for Telltale games to treat all their fans of The Wolf Among Us. Sure I like The walking dead but aft… moreer playing TWAU I have a new favorite. It's to bad the better game is in the shadow of the more mainstream/popular game.
Summer ends on September 21st in the Northern Hemisphere, which is where Telltale is located. That's certainly an achievable goal. If episode 2 is released this month, that would give them more than 2 months per episode to release the remaining episodes. It's very likely they'll meet that goal judging by their past development history (since, with each season that had a long development period for episode 2, after the second episode had changes made based on fan and critic feedback, each remaining episode was released at a quicker time frame). It's very likely that the remaining episodes will release at around two month intervals (or perhaps even less).
There actually IS a promised timeframe; the steam page says that all episodes will be released by Summer 2014, if they can't hold to that then… more I consider it to be false advertising, since having all the episodes by Summer 2014 was what was agreed on when I bought the product.
Telltale sells their episodes like a television series, and they are honest about it in that they tell people up front that they won't get all of the games all at once, as they state that further episodes will be released periodically throughout 2014. It's like buying season passes for ongoing television series from digital outlets such as iTunes or Xbox Live Marketplace, you get all of the episodes in the season that are available when you purchase the pass and then you get the remaining episodes once they are released.
I don not think, that they read a lot of it. Puzzlebox is proberly the most forum aktive one, and it is often weeks between we hear anything from her. So I think, that it is very little, that they read of this.
If they did read all of it, that would explain, why ep2 is taking so long:)
I can't say that they are using "normal" accounts and writing stuff, but I'm sure that they are reading posts in this thread and feel motivated and demotivated at the same time.
Telltale sells their episodes like a television series, and they are honest about it in that they tell people up front that they won't get all… more of the games all at once, as they state that further episodes will be released periodically throughout 2014. It's like buying season passes for ongoing television series from digital outlets such as iTunes or Xbox Live Marketplace, you get all of the episodes in the season that are available when you purchase the pass and then you get the remaining episodes once they are released.
Well that is the funny part. I remember that interview. After ep1 everyone were like; I want to kill that son of a bi***. But when people got the choise of either killing him, or trying to safe him, most people chose the last option.
Slight difference: When I buy a season pass for, say Archer (TV Show), I can see when the release dates are for each episode.
Additionally, if i buy a season pass for DLC for a game, say Borderlands 2, I still get more than an hour of gameplay for my initial investment.
I have had a total of 2 playthroughs on TWAU, for different endings, and steam is showing a grand total of "2 hours played".
So for $20, I get 2 hours of gameplay and a developer who doesn't give a rats ass about it's customers, and won't tell you when you can expect the next hour of gameplay. For $30, I can get a season pass for Archer season 5, of which I get: 20-22 minutes of entertainment per episode, and I know the release of the first four episodes so far: 13/01/2014, 20/01/2014, 27/01/2014, 02/02/2014. So, within a period of less than 1 month I get ~80-88 minutes of entertainment for $30. By the time all 13 episodes are out, i'll have received 260-286 minutes of entertainment. Sure, that falls a little short of the ~300 minutes of entertainment i'll receive from TWAU, but i'm not waiting 4 months per episode for Archer.
By that time, I'll probably be wondering when episode 3 of TWAU is being released. I wonder what would be the smarter buy in this scenario.
I'll also point out that those that create shows that have a large fanbase typically interact with their fans, even if it is in the form of unique marketing. Archer voice actors did an AMA on reddit, Archer artists posted in Reddit's GoneWild (Damn funny.... if NSFW). Gearbox, creators of Borderlands 1/2 (Another IP TTG is going to trash) created a heart-crushing eulogy for a fan of their games, John Mamaril (), helped a fan get engaged (), and Randy Pitchford of Gearbox regularly interacts with Gearbox fans on twitter (https://twitter.com/DuvalMagic) on top of posting free shift codes. Why in hell would a company that does so much for their fans partner with a company that would take a dump on their customers face, and then ask for money for it? All TTG is going to do is drag their IP into the mud.
Telltale sells their episodes like a television series, and they are honest about it in that they tell people up front that they won't get all… more of the games all at once, as they state that further episodes will be released periodically throughout 2014. It's like buying season passes for ongoing television series from digital outlets such as iTunes or Xbox Live Marketplace, you get all of the episodes in the season that are available when you purchase the pass and then you get the remaining episodes once they are released.
The difference is that TV shows are all filmed and edited in advance so it is easier to grantee a release date for every episode in a season, The game will take longer to develop as they need to record voices, do animation, test for bugs and other technical things so there could be unforeseen delays which are beyond their control. But i do think the silent treatment is wrong and they should be honest if there is a problem which they need to fix so that people waiting for the game know whats up.
Slight difference: When I buy a season pass for, say Archer (TV Show), I can see when the release dates are for each episode.
Additionally,… more if i buy a season pass for DLC for a game, say Borderlands 2, I still get more than an hour of gameplay for my initial investment.
I have had a total of 2 playthroughs on TWAU, for different endings, and steam is showing a grand total of "2 hours played".
So for $20, I get 2 hours of gameplay and a developer who doesn't give a rats ass about it's customers, and won't tell you when you can expect the next hour of gameplay. For $30, I can get a season pass for Archer season 5, of which I get: 20-22 minutes of entertainment per episode, and I know the release of the first four episodes so far: 13/01/2014, 20/01/2014, 27/01/2014, 02/02/2014. So, within a period of less than 1 month I get ~80-88 minutes of entertainment for $30. By the time all 13 episodes are out, i'll have received 260-286 minutes of en… [view original content]
The thing keeping me mildly sane at this point is the fact that The Walking Dead fans don't have episode 2 of their game yet.
If say, Telltale announce and bring out a second episode of the Walking Dead and STILL haven't given us episode 2 of Wolf, then I'll be mighty mighty peeved.
Until then, I take heart that this delay isn't limited purely to our game of choice.
Yeah but if, let's say it WAS because of multiple branching storylines, look at how they struggle with just one episode, it would be awesome but they wouldn't be able to handle it, we would be lucky if they finished the game by the end of December... 2015....
He DOES survive if you watched the preview for the second episode. "WHERE'S THE REST OF HER?" is the line he says during it, no longer being bluish purple.
Honestly we're due for like 2-3 episodes and we're still waiting for the first. Seriously though, I don't want to be waiting a year to play my game to completion. Tell Tale needs to reconsider their business model because if they cannot push out content within a reasonably time frame than the game really should be marked as an 'Early Access Title' because we ARE buying an unfinished product, and clearly one that is being updated in valve time.
Just wait until they all come out. (If they do at all) Then just play the whole thing through. Plenty of other stuff to play in the meanwhile. There is no sense staying engaged with this game if the release dates are going to be inconsistent.
I think the way most people understand "by summer 2014," is that the game will be released before the start of summer, not the end. If I were to say, I'll complete my assignment by 5 o'clock it would be expected at 5, not 5:59. Or I'll pay my rent by October, my landlord would be looking for it November 30th. If they said it would be released IN summer 2014, it'd be a different story. Just saying.
Summer ends on September 21st in the Northern Hemisphere, which is where Telltale is located. That's certainly an achievable goal. If episode… more 2 is released this month, that would give them more than 2 months per episode to release the remaining episodes. It's very likely they'll meet that goal judging by their past development history (since, with each season that had a long development period for episode 2, after the second episode had changes made based on fan and critic feedback, each remaining episode was released at a quicker time frame). It's very likely that the remaining episodes will release at around two month intervals (or perhaps even less).
Well, TTG has had release date issues in the past, though not nearly as bad as this. Back when they released Back to the Future, and they were having issues with release dates, they should have turned around, and said "Hey, maybe we need to have the first two or three episodes out before taking orders".
The difference is that TV shows are all filmed and edited in advance so it is easier to grantee a release date for every episode in a season, … moreThe game will take longer to develop as they need to record voices, do animation, test for bugs and other technical things so there could be unforeseen delays which are beyond their control. But i do think the silent treatment is wrong and they should be honest if there is a problem which they need to fix so that people waiting for the game know whats up.
It basically comes down to feeling duped. I was hooked on the TWD game and bought each new episode as soon as I found it was available. Based on my enjoyment of that series, I tried TWAU, loved it and bought a season pass. Now I'm just sitting here without my money and without a new episode and without any update. I'm sure TellTale's intent wasn't a quick money grab, but that's kind of what it feels like.
I agree it does feel that way. I bought the season pass for the same reason it seems like you did. I've tried to get my money back through Telltale and Xbox Live but was met with nothing but corporate babble and non-awnsers. Ive given up on the series and im just going to wait for the whole thing to be released before i care about it again. But the end result is that i'm probably never going to buy anything from this publisher again. Most certainly not season passes.
It basically comes down to feeling duped. I was hooked on the TWD game and bought each new episode as soon as I found it was available. Base… mored on my enjoyment of that series, I tried TWAU, loved it and bought a season pass. Now I'm just sitting here without my money and without a new episode and without any update. I'm sure TellTale's intent wasn't a quick money grab, but that's kind of what it feels like.
Jennifer I was agreeing with you until you said this was completely expected. Not really, Telltale typically does take time between their first and second episode but a three month wait with little updates is ridiculous. There better be a good reason, like a huge major bug or internal development squabbles in order for this delay to be reasonable in my eyes. It's not like a AAA game where a delay is expected and kinda good, if huge delays were to occur it would be with episode 1, which there were.
Unless they completely rehauled the engine or something, I see no reason for a release soon. It's been three months of silence and the early January is about to pass.
Summer ends on September 21st in the Northern Hemisphere, which is where Telltale is located. That's certainly an achievable goal. If episode… more 2 is released this month, that would give them more than 2 months per episode to release the remaining episodes. It's very likely they'll meet that goal judging by their past development history (since, with each season that had a long development period for episode 2, after the second episode had changes made based on fan and critic feedback, each remaining episode was released at a quicker time frame). It's very likely that the remaining episodes will release at around two month intervals (or perhaps even less).
The season pass is on sale on PSN again tomorrow. I feel like people who bought this when episode 2 was due in 6 weeks rather than 3+ months deserve that $5 difference refunded.
Of course we all deserve a statement from Telltale, but they don't even care enough for that.
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(9) Why doesn't Telltale give more specific updates on their progress on developing episodes?
Telltale's early days of open transparency are just not possible anymore. Before they only released games on their online store and GameTap, and had much lower profile licenses. Now that they are working with large corporations such as Warner Bros (which owns Vertigo, which is an imprint of DC Comics) for Fables, and with big name licenses like The Walking Dead, and have to deal with distribution deals with large console manufacturers like Sony and Microsoft, there's a lot of non-disclosure agreements and other legal red tape that they have to deal with. That's the reason that they can only give release dates when they have them, and can only give vague statements such as that they're still working on the game when they don't have them. Specific updates are just not possible under the current contracts. Telltale has always been a company that's appreciative of their fans (putting fan feedback into releases, allowing fans to post videos of their games without restriction, etc). If they could give more information more often, they definitely would.
allowing fans to post videos of their games without restriction
Oh, thank you telltale for allowing gamers to post videos that clearly fall under "fair use" without suing them. I guess I should totally be on your side now, right?
(9) Why doesn't Telltale give more specific updates on their progress on developing episodes?
Telltale's early days of open transparency are … morejust not possible anymore. Before they only released games on their online store and GameTap, and had much lower profile licenses. Now that they are working with large corporations such as Warner Bros (which owns Vertigo, which is an imprint of DC Comics) for Fables, and with big name licenses like The Walking Dead, and have to deal with distribution deals with large console manufacturers like Sony and Microsoft, there's a lot of non-disclosure agreements and other legal red tape that they have to deal with. That's the reason that they can only give release dates when they have them, and can only give vague statements such as that they're still working on the game when they don't have them. Specific updates are just not possible under the current contracts. Telltale has always been a company that's apprecia… [view original content]
I don't want to sound like an ass..but this is ridiculous. Telltale should at the VERY LEAST release a statement saying why it's taking so long to release EPISODE 2. Holy shit guys, you are a game developing company..I'm not trying to say it's easy, but damn, this is why you got into your profession, and now you make thousands of people who willingly put money in your pockets with no REAL promise of an actual experience (minus episode one). I'm sorry, but I'm sick and tired of waiting. If you're taking fan's input into account for how the story goes, please..don't. Take this as a learning lesson and CREATE a fucking story for us to act out as we see fit, there's a reason why games like GTA are so popular, because you can make your own decisions for the most part. While this experience is a bit more guided (which I enjoy thoroughly) it still opens the possibility of the player to handle the "situation" in their way. Quit waiting for the forum boards to explode to try to throw us off, people are ALWAYS gonna guess correctly. We have faith in your ability to immerse us in a story, otherwise we wouldn't have given you our money. So please, oh please, give us SOMETHING. A statement, a pie-chart on how little fucks you give..ANYTHING.
I don't want to sound like an ass..but this is ridiculous. Telltale should at the VERY LEAST release a statement saying why it's taking so lon… moreg to release EPISODE 2. Holy shit guys, you are a game developing company..I'm not trying to say it's easy, but damn, this is why you got into your profession, and now you make thousands of people who willingly put money in your pockets with no REAL promise of an actual experience (minus episode one). I'm sorry, but I'm sick and tired of waiting. If you're taking fan's input into account for how the story goes, please..don't. Take this as a learning lesson and CREATE a fucking story for us to act out as we see fit, there's a reason why games like GTA are so popular, because you can make your own decisions for the most part. While this experience is a bit more guided (which I enjoy thoroughly) it still opens the possibility of the player to handle the "situation" in their way. Quit waiting for the forum boar… [view original content]
Note that this is taken from the unofficial FAQ, so the words you're quoting are not by Telltale staff members (the moderators are just people who volunteer their free time to help around the forums). The "without restriction" part of that section of the FAQ refers to the fact that Telltale even lets people post full play-throughs of their games without commentary, which pretty much lets people watch the episode for free. Such a thing definitely doesn't fall under fair-use guidelines, so this non-restrictive policy for video uploads is pretty remarkable.
allowing fans to post videos of their games without restriction
Oh, thank you telltale for allowing gamers to post videos that clearly fall under "fair use" without suing them. I guess I should totally be on your side now, right?
I like watching how other people play the game. In one playthrough someone made Bigby out to be evil. It was funny watching Bigby shake Toad around trying to get answers.
Note that this is taken from the unofficial FAQ, so the words you're quoting are not by Telltale staff members (the moderators are just people… more who volunteer their free time to help around the forums). The "without restriction" part of that section of the FAQ refers to the fact that Telltale even lets people post full play-throughs of their games without commentary, which pretty much lets people watch the episode for free. Such a thing definitely doesn't fall under fair-use guidelines, so this non-restrictive policy for video uploads is pretty remarkable.
Note that this is taken from the unofficial FAQ, so the words you're quoting are not by Telltale staff members (the moderators are just people… more who volunteer their free time to help around the forums). The "without restriction" part of that section of the FAQ refers to the fact that Telltale even lets people post full play-throughs of their games without commentary, which pretty much lets people watch the episode for free. Such a thing definitely doesn't fall under fair-use guidelines, so this non-restrictive policy for video uploads is pretty remarkable.
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M'kay.
A update should be "We are taking this extra time with TWAU because ..........". (Fill in blank)
If they would do that then we would now why we are sitting here waiting.
That would be the most disrespectful way for Telltale games to treat all their fans of The Wolf Among Us. Sure I like The walking dead but after playing TWAU I have a new favorite. It's to bad the better game is in the shadow of the more mainstream/popular game.
There actually IS a promised timeframe; the steam page says that all episodes will be released by Summer 2014, if they can't hold to that then I consider it to be false advertising, since having all the episodes by Summer 2014 was what was agreed on when I bought the product.
I am mostly disappointed, as a longterm customer. Telltale need to tell their fans the cause of the delay and be in constant communication. That would be the sensible thing to do and will keep their reputation intact. Anybody can understand delays, but customers don't like to be kept in the dark.
...Like I said: The Walking Dead is their flagship, and top-seller. When The Wolf Among Us went live it stayed in focus for a week or so. The Walking Dead: Season Two is still a top-seller on Steam, and is always in focus. It'd be obvious for them to put more workforce, and finish get The Walking Dead: Season Two ready to release as soon as possible once The Wolf Among Us is out.
Summer ends on September 21st in the Northern Hemisphere, which is where Telltale is located. That's certainly an achievable goal. If episode 2 is released this month, that would give them more than 2 months per episode to release the remaining episodes. It's very likely they'll meet that goal judging by their past development history (since, with each season that had a long development period for episode 2, after the second episode had changes made based on fan and critic feedback, each remaining episode was released at a quicker time frame). It's very likely that the remaining episodes will release at around two month intervals (or perhaps even less).
TTG are crooks. Why they start sell season pass, if they not even finished the second episode? I will never buy a game from TTG.
Telltale sells their episodes like a television series, and they are honest about it in that they tell people up front that they won't get all of the games all at once, as they state that further episodes will be released periodically throughout 2014. It's like buying season passes for ongoing television series from digital outlets such as iTunes or Xbox Live Marketplace, you get all of the episodes in the season that are available when you purchase the pass and then you get the remaining episodes once they are released.
I don not think, that they read a lot of it. Puzzlebox is proberly the most forum aktive one, and it is often weeks between we hear anything from her. So I think, that it is very little, that they read of this.
If they did read all of it, that would explain, why ep2 is taking so long:)
Episodes of well know titles dont have delays. Publisher with good reputation holding up shedule.
Sorry for my english.
Well that is the funny part. I remember that interview. After ep1 everyone were like; I want to kill that son of a bi***. But when people got the choise of either killing him, or trying to safe him, most people chose the last option.
Slight difference: When I buy a season pass for, say Archer (TV Show), I can see when the release dates are for each episode.
Additionally, if i buy a season pass for DLC for a game, say Borderlands 2, I still get more than an hour of gameplay for my initial investment.
I have had a total of 2 playthroughs on TWAU, for different endings, and steam is showing a grand total of "2 hours played".
So for $20, I get 2 hours of gameplay and a developer who doesn't give a rats ass about it's customers, and won't tell you when you can expect the next hour of gameplay. For $30, I can get a season pass for Archer season 5, of which I get: 20-22 minutes of entertainment per episode, and I know the release of the first four episodes so far: 13/01/2014, 20/01/2014, 27/01/2014, 02/02/2014. So, within a period of less than 1 month I get ~80-88 minutes of entertainment for $30. By the time all 13 episodes are out, i'll have received 260-286 minutes of entertainment. Sure, that falls a little short of the ~300 minutes of entertainment i'll receive from TWAU, but i'm not waiting 4 months per episode for Archer.
By that time, I'll probably be wondering when episode 3 of TWAU is being released. I wonder what would be the smarter buy in this scenario.
I'll also point out that those that create shows that have a large fanbase typically interact with their fans, even if it is in the form of unique marketing. Archer voice actors did an AMA on reddit, Archer artists posted in Reddit's GoneWild (Damn funny.... if NSFW). Gearbox, creators of Borderlands 1/2 (Another IP TTG is going to trash) created a heart-crushing eulogy for a fan of their games, John Mamaril (
), helped a fan get engaged (
), and Randy Pitchford of Gearbox regularly interacts with Gearbox fans on twitter (https://twitter.com/DuvalMagic) on top of posting free shift codes. Why in hell would a company that does so much for their fans partner with a company that would take a dump on their customers face, and then ask for money for it? All TTG is going to do is drag their IP into the mud.
With this long delay, I'm expecting episode 2 to be the best telltale has ever done. Hope I'm not disappointed :l
The difference is that TV shows are all filmed and edited in advance so it is easier to grantee a release date for every episode in a season, The game will take longer to develop as they need to record voices, do animation, test for bugs and other technical things so there could be unforeseen delays which are beyond their control. But i do think the silent treatment is wrong and they should be honest if there is a problem which they need to fix so that people waiting for the game know whats up.
The thing keeping me mildly sane at this point is the fact that The Walking Dead fans don't have episode 2 of their game yet.
If say, Telltale announce and bring out a second episode of the Walking Dead and STILL haven't given us episode 2 of Wolf, then I'll be mighty mighty peeved.
Until then, I take heart that this delay isn't limited purely to our game of choice.
Yeah but if, let's say it WAS because of multiple branching storylines, look at how they struggle with just one episode, it would be awesome but they wouldn't be able to handle it, we would be lucky if they finished the game by the end of December... 2015....
He DOES survive if you watched the preview for the second episode. "WHERE'S THE REST OF HER?" is the line he says during it, no longer being bluish purple.
Honestly we're due for like 2-3 episodes and we're still waiting for the first. Seriously though, I don't want to be waiting a year to play my game to completion. Tell Tale needs to reconsider their business model because if they cannot push out content within a reasonably time frame than the game really should be marked as an 'Early Access Title' because we ARE buying an unfinished product, and clearly one that is being updated in valve time.
Just wait until they all come out. (If they do at all) Then just play the whole thing through. Plenty of other stuff to play in the meanwhile. There is no sense staying engaged with this game if the release dates are going to be inconsistent.
I think the way most people understand "by summer 2014," is that the game will be released before the start of summer, not the end. If I were to say, I'll complete my assignment by 5 o'clock it would be expected at 5, not 5:59. Or I'll pay my rent by October, my landlord would be looking for it November 30th. If they said it would be released IN summer 2014, it'd be a different story. Just saying.
Well, TTG has had release date issues in the past, though not nearly as bad as this. Back when they released Back to the Future, and they were having issues with release dates, they should have turned around, and said "Hey, maybe we need to have the first two or three episodes out before taking orders".
Episodes still have deadlines and some shows, like South Park, only start work on a new episode a week before it releases (See the show "7 days to south park" at http://www.southparkstudios.com/guide/episodes/s12e07-super-fun-time/sixdays)
It basically comes down to feeling duped. I was hooked on the TWD game and bought each new episode as soon as I found it was available. Based on my enjoyment of that series, I tried TWAU, loved it and bought a season pass. Now I'm just sitting here without my money and without a new episode and without any update. I'm sure TellTale's intent wasn't a quick money grab, but that's kind of what it feels like.
I agree it does feel that way. I bought the season pass for the same reason it seems like you did. I've tried to get my money back through Telltale and Xbox Live but was met with nothing but corporate babble and non-awnsers. Ive given up on the series and im just going to wait for the whole thing to be released before i care about it again. But the end result is that i'm probably never going to buy anything from this publisher again. Most certainly not season passes.
Jennifer I was agreeing with you until you said this was completely expected. Not really, Telltale typically does take time between their first and second episode but a three month wait with little updates is ridiculous. There better be a good reason, like a huge major bug or internal development squabbles in order for this delay to be reasonable in my eyes. It's not like a AAA game where a delay is expected and kinda good, if huge delays were to occur it would be with episode 1, which there were.
Unless they completely rehauled the engine or something, I see no reason for a release soon. It's been three months of silence and the early January is about to pass.
The season pass is on sale on PSN again tomorrow. I feel like people who bought this when episode 2 was due in 6 weeks rather than 3+ months deserve that $5 difference refunded.
Of course we all deserve a statement from Telltale, but they don't even care enough for that.
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(9) Why doesn't Telltale give more specific updates on their progress on developing episodes?
Telltale's early days of open transparency are just not possible anymore. Before they only released games on their online store and GameTap, and had much lower profile licenses. Now that they are working with large corporations such as Warner Bros (which owns Vertigo, which is an imprint of DC Comics) for Fables, and with big name licenses like The Walking Dead, and have to deal with distribution deals with large console manufacturers like Sony and Microsoft, there's a lot of non-disclosure agreements and other legal red tape that they have to deal with. That's the reason that they can only give release dates when they have them, and can only give vague statements such as that they're still working on the game when they don't have them. Specific updates are just not possible under the current contracts. Telltale has always been a company that's appreciative of their fans (putting fan feedback into releases, allowing fans to post videos of their games without restriction, etc). If they could give more information more often, they definitely would.
What a load of crap!
Oh, thank you telltale for allowing gamers to post videos that clearly fall under "fair use" without suing them. I guess I should totally be on your side now, right?
I don't want to sound like an ass..but this is ridiculous. Telltale should at the VERY LEAST release a statement saying why it's taking so long to release EPISODE 2. Holy shit guys, you are a game developing company..I'm not trying to say it's easy, but damn, this is why you got into your profession, and now you make thousands of people who willingly put money in your pockets with no REAL promise of an actual experience (minus episode one). I'm sorry, but I'm sick and tired of waiting. If you're taking fan's input into account for how the story goes, please..don't. Take this as a learning lesson and CREATE a fucking story for us to act out as we see fit, there's a reason why games like GTA are so popular, because you can make your own decisions for the most part. While this experience is a bit more guided (which I enjoy thoroughly) it still opens the possibility of the player to handle the "situation" in their way. Quit waiting for the forum boards to explode to try to throw us off, people are ALWAYS gonna guess correctly. We have faith in your ability to immerse us in a story, otherwise we wouldn't have given you our money. So please, oh please, give us SOMETHING. A statement, a pie-chart on how little fucks you give..ANYTHING.
I don't know why, but the pie-chart part made me laugh so hard
Note that this is taken from the unofficial FAQ, so the words you're quoting are not by Telltale staff members (the moderators are just people who volunteer their free time to help around the forums). The "without restriction" part of that section of the FAQ refers to the fact that Telltale even lets people post full play-throughs of their games without commentary, which pretty much lets people watch the episode for free. Such a thing definitely doesn't fall under fair-use guidelines, so this non-restrictive policy for video uploads is pretty remarkable.
Its a seriously overused and cliched term, but i think its ok to label episode two of this series as vaporware. It meets all of the criteria.
I like watching how other people play the game. In one playthrough someone made Bigby out to be evil. It was funny watching Bigby shake Toad around trying to get answers.
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Can you send me a link for this petition ?
Though i agree with the thought of it, i think people are making a mistake if they are giving real personal information in signing that petition.
Why someone baned a gamer who write a petition to TTG ?!
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