Your idea that Holly thought Snow was a hooker does actually makes sense, lol. Anyway, it's funny to imagine Holly gossiping about it. But wouldn't the whole community have known if that was the case? Well, maybe they are all to afraid to talk about it in Bigby's presence.
Also Holly knew they found what appeared to be Snow's head and then body. And now we turn up and tell her that it was actually her sister. I personally think this is the reason she said "it should've been you".
Add the fact that Holly associated Snow with the hooking thing. That was right after Bigby ask her for reasons of why her sister would be glam… moreoured as Snow White. And then Hollys is so pissed that she said to Snow: "Get the fuck out of my bar" ... "It should've been you, it should've been you and it wasn't"
What a surprise for Holly it was. Before all that she only believed that Snow was a hooker.
Thanks, mate.
But I think there are still plenty of things to figure out. I have a list of wierd stuff that doesn't add up, for example:
… moreThere is a pool of sticky blood in Lawrence's apartment. Partly on the bed, partly on the floor. And the bed is in assembled position.
Now Lawrence was in a coma for at least a week, as Bigby smelled from a gun. Blood on his wrist is also completely dry, but there was a fan pointed directly at it, so this is not evidence.
Note on the bed, however, is Lawrence's, because if you pick "we saw your suicide note" option in the dialog, he doesn't deny it. But he wouldn't lift the bed back up after placing a note on it! So someone else must've done it. And left moderately small pool of blood in the process.
By the way, I think that another evidence that killer is helping investigation is Faith's ring in her mouth. Ring only bears her family emblem, there is nothing more to it. It is as if the killer wanted… [view original content]
I'm pretty sure and it is also stated in-game that we are dealing with two different killers. The murder of fake Snow (Lily) is obviously related to Crane (I'm not saying he killed her) and at the same time it is related to Bluebeard (It is pretty suspicious that he sat on Deputy Mayor desk with his arrogant style). No one for sure know who killed Lily yet but we have two big suspects.
We can safely say that Lily (the Troll) is actually dead. But I still have my doubts about Faith's severed head. What if that "head" is not Faith's but a different animal head Glamoured as Faith? The cat missing since Episode 1?... And she could've been kidnapped and kept held in captivity. Maybe was a voluntary act to escape from the hooking lifestyle. I'm just waiting for Mr. Sweinheart to reveal what he has been testing for so long... If is in fact an animal's head Glamoured as Faith... If so we can be dealing with two counterparts fighting for Deputy Mayor possition... The pretty obvious are Bluebeard and ......Snow...
I can replay the Episodes again and all I see is Snow accusing Bluebeard and Bluebeard framing Crane to get his spot.
If you can't see it... you are more that welcome to give me thumbs down
Thank you.
I think the killer wasn't even introduced yet. We know that he leaves heads of his victims on Woodland's doorstep as a message. B… moreoth dead girls were connected to Crane and also, to some extend, to Bigby. Their connection with Crane, however, seems much stronger. So I assume Crane is the one they are "addressed" to.
So why did killer want to attract attention to them in the first place? What is unusual about these girls? Well, their connection to Crane is. Faith stole something for/from him. Lily was his fake-Snow-White (either regular one or just the one who was "on duty" this day).
Attracting attention to this girls exposed some dirt and got Crane in huge trouble, making him suspect number one. Was this just a coincidence or was it killers intent? My money is on the latter.
Lily's murder possibly looked like this: someone found out about Crane's fetish, took photographs. Waited for him to make an appointment with a prostitute … [view original content]
Yes but remember that Beauty also did know. Or tought.. that Snow was hooking but she doesn't need to tell nobody. It is her own shit. At the Open Arms Hotel Beauty tells you that info.
Your idea that Holly thought Snow was a hooker does actually makes sense, lol. Anyway, it's funny to imagine Holly gossiping about it. But wou… moreldn't the whole community have known if that was the case? Well, maybe they are all to afraid to talk about it in Bigby's presence.
Also Holly knew they found what appeared to be Snow's head and then body. And now we turn up and tell her that it was actually her sister. I personally think this is the reason she said "it should've been you".
Yes but remember that Beauty also did know. Or tought.. that Snow was hooking but she doesn't need to tell nobody. It is her own shit. At the Open Arms Hotel Beauty tells you that info.
I'm pretty sure and it is also stated in-game that we are dealing with two different killers. The murder of fake Snow (Lily) is obviously rela… moreted to Crane (I'm not saying he killed her) and at the same time it is related to Bluebeard (It is pretty suspicious that he sat on Deputy Mayor desk with his arrogant style). No one for sure know who killed Lily yet but we have two big suspects.
We can safely say that Lily (the Troll) is actually dead. But I still have my doubts about Faith's severed head. What if that "head" is not Faith's but a different animal head Glamoured as Faith? The cat missing since Episode 1?... And she could've been kidnapped and kept held in captivity. Maybe was a voluntary act to escape from the hooking lifestyle. I'm just waiting for Mr. Sweinheart to reveal what he has been testing for so long... If is in fact an animal's head Glamoured as Faith... If so we can be dealing with two counterparts fighting for Deputy Mayor p… [view original content]
It is assumed there are two killers, not stated. I agree with the fight for the position of Deputy Mayor. Bluebeard's methods are brutal, unlike Bigby's likely method with Woody.
I'm pretty sure and it is also stated in-game that we are dealing with two different killers. The murder of fake Snow (Lily) is obviously rela… moreted to Crane (I'm not saying he killed her) and at the same time it is related to Bluebeard (It is pretty suspicious that he sat on Deputy Mayor desk with his arrogant style). No one for sure know who killed Lily yet but we have two big suspects.
We can safely say that Lily (the Troll) is actually dead. But I still have my doubts about Faith's severed head. What if that "head" is not Faith's but a different animal head Glamoured as Faith? The cat missing since Episode 1?... And she could've been kidnapped and kept held in captivity. Maybe was a voluntary act to escape from the hooking lifestyle. I'm just waiting for Mr. Sweinheart to reveal what he has been testing for so long... If is in fact an animal's head Glamoured as Faith... If so we can be dealing with two counterparts fighting for Deputy Mayor p… [view original content]
That's because its a linear narrative in a video game. Some things are outside of your direct control, like the fact you have to end up going to the "Pudding and Pie" no matter what.
I assume your not invited and asking questions about things he doesn't want to be asked about tends to get on peoples nerves. Then complaining to your direct authority is a fairly common thing to do. The only part you have control over is what exactly Georgie complains about specifically which I'm sure effects things in the future. Since Crane has been diddling a prostitute in the image of Snow White we can safely assume this conversation will show how close Bigby is getting to discovering the scandal.
You seem to ignore the obvious in order to imagine and conjecture far flung possibilities. Good imagination but lack of focus.
This may sound stupid but I think that the redheaded man is Colin in glamour and he is the killer. You know the fairy tale of three little pigs? Well Colin is one of them.in the tale the wolf (Bigby) blows up two pigs homes and in some versions the wolf eats those two. Maybe Colin was the third one? And now he is trying to revenge. First he killed Faith in his glamour and then he moved Her with his teeth and that explains the blood marks on the ground. Then he just went inside the house and went to Bigby's apartment and somehow changed back to Colin and pretented that he had been all the time sleeping on the couch. I mean nobody would actually never think that it would be him. I know that this sounds fucking stupid. Sorry for my English.
Maybe its Jack? Or he is involved? At Faith's crime scene, you find a piece of jeans. Jack wears ripped jeans... but it could all be circumstantial evidence.
It looks back slightly. The size of that is extremely small though. Colin ain't there, also Colin wouldn't want to irritate Bigby, and sleeps in the garden behind the apartment. That is until he's sent to the farm again.
Really I think that whoever the killer is, we haven't seen them yet, or it is someone without any visible reason yet, whatever it is it cat be anyone we see walking around in the comics. If you see in the teaser for part 3 we see at the end of part 2 crane escaping in his car after smashing the mirror, in the passenger side he throws another black market glamour box, I think that this means that it wasn't ever crane, someone is posing as him, if you wonder if this cant happier as it wasn't on his person, it was next to him, if you think back to the pretend snow/ Lily's investigation you will see that the spell doesn't break till it is opened and its inventory removed. This means it could be him all along.
I think that crane had a glamour box in that scene either as confirmation he gave the first one to Lily or maybe its to disguise himself now that he's on the run. Either way, i think was really crane
It looks back slightly. The size of that is extremely small though. Colin ain't there, also Colin wouldn't want to irritate Bigby, and sleeps in the garden behind the apartment. That is until he's sent to the farm again.
I have some more evidence for that red haired man. He was in the hallway when you chased dee. He was the taxi driver. He is like everywhere wh… moreere Bigby is. Here's some pics: http://www.telltalegames.com/community/discussion/51136/ginger-guy-dilema-pictures
I have a feeling he might be a generic character model that you just happen to interact with at one point with snow. I say this because while he is the taxi driver driving you to the Trip Trap, he is also in the alleyway kneeling in front of a burning trashcan at the exact same time.
I have some more evidence for that red haired man. He was in the hallway when you chased dee. He was the taxi driver. He is like everywhere wh… moreere Bigby is. Here's some pics: http://www.telltalegames.com/community/discussion/51136/ginger-guy-dilema-pictures
In fables, crane was caught for sexually harassing snow, even though fables comics have already been made, twau is set before fables they should have said about killing people, it's difficult to explain but they can't just thrust the fact he killed them into the character.
I think that crane had a glamour box in that scene either as confirmation he gave the first one to Lily or maybe its to disguise himself now that he's on the run. Either way, i think was really crane
TWAU is before the first issue. Take a closer look at issue 22. Crane gets fired the very same year the murders take place. The sexual harassment was only mentioned in the comics. There is also the mention of formal charges. Formal charges are punishable by death, specifically head being chopped off.
he DIDN'T shot himself with his left hand, the wound on the left side of his head is the exit wound, (it's easy to miss the entry wound, since… more there's just a little bit of blood). He shot himself in the chest but was still alive, Dee tells him Faith is dead, he takes the gun with his right hand and shoots his head, that's why there is blood on the fire place, and on Dee's face, the exit wound. Two bullets, two entry wounds, two exit wounds, one gun and one shooter.
Depends on what you do. If you visit him first, he is only shot in the chest which HE did. He then shoots himself if you let Dee talk. The rou… morend never leaves his head when he does kill himself with Dee present.
If you go to him last, 1 shot, 1 entry/exit wound, bullet is in the wall.
I have no idea what game you are playing, but there is NO evidence of a shotgun blast and the single bullet is accounted for.
The loop-hole in the whole thing is Dee's story doesn't make sense if you visit Toad first. He says he told him about Faith and THEN he shoots himself. BUT the gun was shot a week ago regardless of which path you choose. Same day vs a week... I think it was an oversight on the developers.
The girl outside the club is Crane's regular. "Call Vivian right this minute". If you wait for the voice characters Vivian is there. Lily is Woody's regular.
Then why were Faiths boxes in the club destroyed? maybe she had stolen something the night she was killed after she left the Woodsmans? Think about it, she didn't have the money she needed for Georgies fees so he treats her like shit, she decides its time to leave so she steals from the club, later she gets killed.
I don't think they are tied to Georgie. Remember Faith stole from their employer. IF she had stolen from Georgie, why was Faith trying to get … moremoney from the woodsman to pay to Georgie? Wouldn't you be running from the person you stole from?
I do, however, believe that Crane is tied to Georgie. Before you went to talk to the little mermaid, he said he was going to call the deputy mayor (Crane) likely to inform him that you are getting close to his fetish.
Than you should research more... If Lawrence was shot in the head with a shotgun, he wouldn't have a head anymore... Contact wounds to the head tend to have a bigger exit wound.
Do you know what tend to means? Most likely. "Fables are hard to kill." So which one would be more likely #1 or #2? First you said always, now you say tend to. Make up your mind.
Than you should research more... If Lawrence was shot in the head with a shotgun, he wouldn't have a head anymore... Contact wounds to the head tend to have a bigger exit wound.
Yeah but if you go to Lawrences first, he has one gunshot wound, and if you go there after toads, he has two. Bigby says in both occasions that Lawrence's gun wasn't fired in about a week, so maybe Dee finishes him off or maybe he gets startled when Lawrence recovers and he shoots out of fear.
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Your idea that Holly thought Snow was a hooker does actually makes sense, lol. Anyway, it's funny to imagine Holly gossiping about it. But wouldn't the whole community have known if that was the case? Well, maybe they are all to afraid to talk about it in Bigby's presence.
Also Holly knew they found what appeared to be Snow's head and then body. And now we turn up and tell her that it was actually her sister. I personally think this is the reason she said "it should've been you".
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Yeah, there are some questions, I meant that only when episode 3 come out we will be able to speculate more.
I'm pretty sure and it is also stated in-game that we are dealing with two different killers. The murder of fake Snow (Lily) is obviously related to Crane (I'm not saying he killed her) and at the same time it is related to Bluebeard (It is pretty suspicious that he sat on Deputy Mayor desk with his arrogant style). No one for sure know who killed Lily yet but we have two big suspects.
We can safely say that Lily (the Troll) is actually dead. But I still have my doubts about Faith's severed head. What if that "head" is not Faith's but a different animal head Glamoured as Faith? The cat missing since Episode 1?... And she could've been kidnapped and kept held in captivity. Maybe was a voluntary act to escape from the hooking lifestyle. I'm just waiting for Mr. Sweinheart to reveal what he has been testing for so long... If is in fact an animal's head Glamoured as Faith... If so we can be dealing with two counterparts fighting for Deputy Mayor possition... The pretty obvious are Bluebeard and ......Snow...
I can replay the Episodes again and all I see is Snow accusing Bluebeard and Bluebeard framing Crane to get his spot.
If you can't see it... you are more that welcome to give me thumbs down
Yes but remember that Beauty also did know. Or tought.. that Snow was hooking but she doesn't need to tell nobody. It is her own shit. At the Open Arms Hotel Beauty tells you that info.
She says she saw a woman that looked like Snow, and that when Snow did nothing when she saw her, she assumed it was not Snow.
No, it is not.
It is assumed there are two killers, not stated. I agree with the fight for the position of Deputy Mayor. Bluebeard's methods are brutal, unlike Bigby's likely method with Woody.
I really don't think it's Crane. It feels way to obvious with a character that has "SINISTER AND SHADY" written all over him.
Gotta question: What was BEAST doing in the whore house at the end?
Either spying on beauty, or sent by Crane.
That's because its a linear narrative in a video game. Some things are outside of your direct control, like the fact you have to end up going to the "Pudding and Pie" no matter what.
I assume your not invited and asking questions about things he doesn't want to be asked about tends to get on peoples nerves. Then complaining to your direct authority is a fairly common thing to do. The only part you have control over is what exactly Georgie complains about specifically which I'm sure effects things in the future. Since Crane has been diddling a prostitute in the image of Snow White we can safely assume this conversation will show how close Bigby is getting to discovering the scandal.
You seem to ignore the obvious in order to imagine and conjecture far flung possibilities. Good imagination but lack of focus.
This may sound stupid but I think that the redheaded man is Colin in glamour and he is the killer. You know the fairy tale of three little pigs? Well Colin is one of them.in the tale the wolf (Bigby) blows up two pigs homes and in some versions the wolf eats those two. Maybe Colin was the third one? And now he is trying to revenge. First he killed Faith in his glamour and then he moved Her with his teeth and that explains the blood marks on the ground. Then he just went inside the house and went to Bigby's apartment and somehow changed back to Colin and pretented that he had been all the time sleeping on the couch. I mean nobody would actually never think that it would be him. I know that this sounds fucking stupid. Sorry for my English.
After you smoke with the pic, snow is at you door and leads you to the head. As you follow her you run into the redhead. Colin is not him.
Pic = pig. Stupid cell phone
No, Colin has disappeared when Snow comes to Bigby's door.
Maybe its Jack? Or he is involved? At Faith's crime scene, you find a piece of jeans. Jack wears ripped jeans... but it could all be circumstantial evidence.
No, its not proven. The camera doesn't look back to where the pig is.
You can search the whole apartment and you can't find him anywhere.
It looks back slightly. The size of that is extremely small though. Colin ain't there, also Colin wouldn't want to irritate Bigby, and sleeps in the garden behind the apartment. That is until he's sent to the farm again.
Really I think that whoever the killer is, we haven't seen them yet, or it is someone without any visible reason yet, whatever it is it cat be anyone we see walking around in the comics. If you see in the teaser for part 3 we see at the end of part 2 crane escaping in his car after smashing the mirror, in the passenger side he throws another black market glamour box, I think that this means that it wasn't ever crane, someone is posing as him, if you wonder if this cant happier as it wasn't on his person, it was next to him, if you think back to the pretend snow/ Lily's investigation you will see that the spell doesn't break till it is opened and its inventory removed. This means it could be him all along.
Also I think that it is too early on in the series to be already revealing the killer.
I think that crane had a glamour box in that scene either as confirmation he gave the first one to Lily or maybe its to disguise himself now that he's on the run. Either way, i think was really crane
I can only say one thing. Reread the comics and read the Book of Fables entries. Pay special attention to Crane.
I have some more evidence for that red haired man. He was in the hallway when you chased dee. He was the taxi driver. He is like everywhere where Bigby is. Here's some pics: http://www.telltalegames.com/community/discussion/51136/ginger-guy-dilema-pictures
A taxi driver who didn't kill anyone being the killer. Nice joke.... what's the next one
I have a feeling he might be a generic character model that you just happen to interact with at one point with snow. I say this because while he is the taxi driver driving you to the Trip Trap, he is also in the alleyway kneeling in front of a burning trashcan at the exact same time.
In fables, crane was caught for sexually harassing snow, even though fables comics have already been made, twau is set before fables they should have said about killing people, it's difficult to explain but they can't just thrust the fact he killed them into the character.
TWAU is before the first issue. Take a closer look at issue 22. Crane gets fired the very same year the murders take place. The sexual harassment was only mentioned in the comics. There is also the mention of formal charges. Formal charges are punishable by death, specifically head being chopped off.
exit wounds have the least amount of blood through simple physics.
maybe Dee kills Lawrence with a different gun? Bigby only says Lawrences gun wasn't fired in a week.
Maybe Lily was a regular of both of them? Vivian just sets up Cranes meetings.
Then why were Faiths boxes in the club destroyed? maybe she had stolen something the night she was killed after she left the Woodsmans? Think about it, she didn't have the money she needed for Georgies fees so he treats her like shit, she decides its time to leave so she steals from the club, later she gets killed.
That's not true. Through simple physics, exit wounds are larger than the entry wound, therefore, most amount of blood.
The only exit wound that can be bigger than the entry wound is from a shotgun when at close range.
you should do some research...
I did. From a longer distance the entry wound is smaller. From very close proximity the exit wound tends to be a bit smaller.
Than you should research more... If Lawrence was shot in the head with a shotgun, he wouldn't have a head anymore... Contact wounds to the head tend to have a bigger exit wound.
Do you know what tend to means? Most likely. "Fables are hard to kill." So which one would be more likely #1 or #2? First you said always, now you say tend to. Make up your mind.
He'd been sitting there bleeding for a week.
Yeah but if you go to Lawrences first, he has one gunshot wound, and if you go there after toads, he has two. Bigby says in both occasions that Lawrence's gun wasn't fired in about a week, so maybe Dee finishes him off or maybe he gets startled when Lawrence recovers and he shoots out of fear.