But don't you hate it when users on here crap on Telltale's Games? I agree with you, there is a lot of crapping on GOT and TWD S2 in particular, but you're kinda doing the same thing at times. :T
"Crap" was a bad term to use, I apologize for that. Do I criticize it a lot, yes, but most of the time when I do talk about it, it is exactly that, criticisms, not just completely shitting on it like what people do sometimes with TWD or GOT. Sometimes, yes I do go too far, and I do apologize for that, but I have stressed the legitimate problems I have with the game, and you've seen that, while some people just say how TWD sucks without offering their reasoning. If someone says why they don't like S2 or GOT, I have no problem, it's the needless bashing that grinds my gears, and I admit that I have done that with LiS, and I really do apologize for that.
But don't you hate it when users on here crap on Telltale's Games? I agree with you, there is a lot of crapping on GOT and TWD S2 in particular, but you're kinda doing the same thing at times. :T
I understand, and it's alright. I hate it too, when people don't really have anything to back up their criticisms. Or when it's pretty much "I don't like this game/console because I just don't, the ones who made it should call it quits"
I honestly liked both Tales and LIS a lot, GOT I had more issues with, mostly technical ones with glitches, and losing my save file, but at the end of the day, I still liked it and I am looking forward to the second season. I'm also looking forward to seeing Dontnod's next game, Vampyr, in action, which seems to be a departure from both RM and LIS in some ways. Then again, going from a linear game to open world game isn't always a good idea.
"Crap" was a bad term to use, I apologize for that. Do I criticize it a lot, yes, but most of the time when I do talk about it, it is exactl… morey that, criticisms, not just completely shitting on it like what people do sometimes with TWD or GOT. Sometimes, yes I do go too far, and I do apologize for that, but I have stressed the legitimate problems I have with the game, and you've seen that, while some people just say how TWD sucks without offering their reasoning. If someone says why they don't like S2 or GOT, I have no problem, it's the needless bashing that grinds my gears, and I admit that I have done that with LiS, and I really do apologize for that.
All I know is that this thread started off talking about Tales winning first in comedy and second in adventure. Though, because it LOST to LIS you and others feel the need to crap on it. Whether your reasons hold any weight is irrelevant as this post is about Tales and not LIS. You along with others MADE it about LIS because you wanted to.
You think that LIS sucks and yet you and others constantly bring it up. If you don't like something then you shouldn't constantly bring it up as it brings it more attention. Hell, most people actually go for games that people crap on and end up liking way more than expected. Who knows you might actually be making people turn into LIS fans from saying it sucks.
"Crap" was a bad term to use, I apologize for that. Do I criticize it a lot, yes, but most of the time when I do talk about it, it is exactl… morey that, criticisms, not just completely shitting on it like what people do sometimes with TWD or GOT. Sometimes, yes I do go too far, and I do apologize for that, but I have stressed the legitimate problems I have with the game, and you've seen that, while some people just say how TWD sucks without offering their reasoning. If someone says why they don't like S2 or GOT, I have no problem, it's the needless bashing that grinds my gears, and I admit that I have done that with LiS, and I really do apologize for that.
Again, I have criticized LiS LONG before I heard about these awards, I haven't been a fan of LiS since the beginning. From the very first episode I didn't like it, the characters were boring and stereotypical, the writing wasn't good, the dialogue was cringeworthy, and their decision to not go in depth about Max's time powers was dumb. I intended this thread to tell people to vote, not to talk about LiS, but I have no control over what others chose to do, and they, just as much as you, are entitled to their opinions. If they don't like the game, fine, if you do, fine, but we should be allowed to discuss reasons for not liking it or reasons for liking it in an open discussion.
All I know is that this thread started off talking about Tales winning first in comedy and second in adventure. Though, because it LOST to L… moreIS you and others feel the need to crap on it. Whether your reasons hold any weight is irrelevant as this post is about Tales and not LIS. You along with others MADE it about LIS because you wanted to.
You think that LIS sucks and yet you and others constantly bring it up. If you don't like something then you shouldn't constantly bring it up as it brings it more attention. Hell, most people actually go for games that people crap on and end up liking way more than expected. Who knows you might actually be making people turn into LIS fans from saying it sucks.
It's more or less that there were hardly any horror games this year. SOMA, FNAF 3, FNAF 4, Dying Light and Until Dawn were the only true hor… moreror games. And while SOMA was fucking amazing for me, not many people understood the meaning of the game, which made people hate the story. Where-as Dying Light was... mediocre at best. It's clear to see why FNAF 3 and 4 won't make it to number 1, yet Until Dawn was very clever, entertaining, and focuses on the one thing a lot of people wanted to see. All horror cliches wrapped into one. Plus, Until Dawn looks beautiful.
Hey, we all have our opinions about LIS and other TTG series.
Though, you are a part of the problem. Once someone mention how LIS was beating the witcher initially....the tone of this thread changed from Tales to talking about LIS. Whether we were criticizing LIS or praising it we were talking about it. LIS has you talking about it over Tales which many consider to be their favorite game.
Also, should be known that LIS may(most likely) has a bigger fanbase than Tales. Then you have a big section of that fanbase that is committed to the game and keeps up with it. Our some of LIS fans obsessed?...Hell yeah and so are Tales and Witcher and a ton of other games. You may not like it and that is your opinion but it is obvious a ton of other people feel otherwise.
No need to always make LIS the tagline when talking about other narrative based games. Then again maybe you should as it creates more interest for LIS.
Again, I have criticized LiS LONG before I heard about these awards, I haven't been a fan of LiS since the beginning. From the very first ep… moreisode I didn't like it, the characters were boring and stereotypical, the writing wasn't good, the dialogue was cringeworthy, and their decision to not go in depth about Max's time powers was dumb. I intended this thread to tell people to vote, not to talk about LiS, but I have no control over what others chose to do, and they, just as much as you, are entitled to their opinions. If they don't like the game, fine, if you do, fine, but we should be allowed to discuss reasons for not liking it or reasons for liking it in an open discussion.
I think the fanbase connected based on the writing of the two main characters, and certainly the narrative is not one that shows up in games… more very often. They took the unique mechanic from Remember Me and ran with it instead of incorporating awkward fighting elements to make it more maintstream.
I haven't seen a dev interested in story rich time paradox adventures since Junko Kawano's Shadow of Destiny and Time Hollow.
I really did not like where they took the plot, but I also really want them to keep making games, so I'm happy this experiment worked out for them critically/commercially. I've watched too many good devs finally sort out what works by the second or third iteration, only to have the money run out and the studio close.
I can kinda forgive some of OOT's faults, seeing as it was the first 3D game in the series, but the ones that came after it were a lot bette… morer, imo.
Sonic Adventure has aged really badly. Sonic's stages are still kinda fun, Knuckles aren't that bad, but the rest... ehhh, Tails' gameplay style can really break some of the stages, Amy is a slower, crappier Sonic, Gamma is nothing special, and Big... ugh.
I haven't played Fallout 4 yet, so don't really have an opinion on that.
I felt like MGSV was really overrated. As a long time MGS fan, the game disappointed me in a number of things, some of which were things that they promised that aren't actually in the game, the story being unfinished, which is obvious by one plot point being left unresolved and Chapter 2 being horrible and having nothing to do with its name, Mother Base and the Open World maps are all pretty dead.
That's exactly my point: I feel like Life is Strange is a step in the right direction. They got rid of the combat and just made it about the story and the event manipulation mechanic.
The writing itself went off the rails for me midway, but I feel they are getting closer to a working formula, so I hope awards/sales will allow them to continue try new things and I look forward to their next outing.
First of all, Yes. it is impressive. Second of all, It's for all ages, numb skull. Third of all, You've gotta admit, It's impressive. The Le… morego games have reigned supreme in childrens games for a long time. And if kids who played MCSM episode 1 were expecting a Minecraft game, they would have stopped playing. So any kids who are still playing the game and not angry about the fact that it isn't Minecraft are officially appreciating Story telling in games. Which is excellent, and it's great to see what a positive impact MCSM is having.
Edit: Sorry for calling you a Numbskull. Kind of a rude thing to say, I admit.
Again, I have criticized LiS LONG before I heard about these awards, I haven't been a fan of LiS since the beginning. From the very first ep… moreisode I didn't like it, the characters were boring and stereotypical, the writing wasn't good, the dialogue was cringeworthy, and their decision to not go in depth about Max's time powers was dumb. I intended this thread to tell people to vote, not to talk about LiS, but I have no control over what others chose to do, and they, just as much as you, are entitled to their opinions. If they don't like the game, fine, if you do, fine, but we should be allowed to discuss reasons for not liking it or reasons for liking it in an open discussion.
I really did like Until Dawn, but it kind of just shoved stereotyped genres + characters (besides Josh IMO) into one big game with the butterfly effect thrown into it. It wasn't all that original, but at the same time, it was. It's really hard to go about the game. But I think it depicted mental illness amazingly, even if some people still didn't understand or forgive Josh's character.
To shift away from Life is Strange: Until Dawn winning best horror game?
I mean, Until Dawn is pretty great, but it's about as run-of-the… more-mill as they come in terms of horror. Not to mention that almost all of the scares are, as expected, a bunch of dumb jump scares, and even worse, the first half of the game is front-loaded with a bunch of fake-outs, which quickly wear out their welcome.
And Dying Light getting second is also pretty confusing, because how in the HELL does that game even constitute as horror in the first place? I mean sure, it's technically a 'survival horror' game by genre, but that name, quite frankly, has long since lost it's meaning. The only parts that really count as 'horror' would be, as expected, when the sun sets. Which I'll give it credit for, but that definitely doesn't make up a majority of the game's horror aspects. If anything, that's about the only horror aspects really played straight. The rest is an adm… [view original content]
It's more or less that there were hardly any horror games this year. SOMA, FNAF 3, FNAF 4, Dying Light and Until Dawn were the only true hor… moreror games. And while SOMA was fucking amazing for me, not many people understood the meaning of the game, which made people hate the story. Where-as Dying Light was... mediocre at best. It's clear to see why FNAF 3 and 4 won't make it to number 1, yet Until Dawn was very clever, entertaining, and focuses on the one thing a lot of people wanted to see. All horror cliches wrapped into one. Plus, Until Dawn looks beautiful.
Eh hem, allow me to post what else I said before you start bullshit for no reason:
It's clear to see why FNAF 3 and 4 won't make it to number 1
That'd be me referencing the fact that they're both shitty games. However, they are horror games. And as such, they are put in the horror game category (Somehow). There, you wanna jump to some more conclusions?
Eh hem, allow me to post what else I said before you start bullshit for no reason:
It's clear to see why FNAF 3 and 4 won't make it to… more number 1
That'd be me referencing the fact that they're both shitty games. However, they are horror games. And as such, they are put in the horror game category (Somehow). There, you wanna jump to some more conclusions?
Yes, I may have gone overboard there. It's been a pretty shitty night and I'm so sensitive that... fuck, I don't have a good joke about sensitivity to place there.
you wouldn't call them "true horror games."
Not true. Alan Wake and Silent Hill: Downpour are pieces of shit, but they still classify as true horror games. True horror games in the sense that they aren't games with shitty horror themes in the story.
This is so painfully hypocritical, but gave me a nice cackle.
Again, after the interactions we've had, when have you known me to be anything other than hypocritical? This should come as no surprise to you, nor should it give you a "cackle".
I do apologize for being edgy, however your shitty gifs really weren't needed. At least, 3 of them weren't. One would be just fine, preferably one of Tom Cruise laughing like an idiot. That's all I ask. Anyway, sorry, kinda being a dick tonight.
Posting reaction gifs =/= "starting bullshit"
That'd be me referencing the fact that they're both shitty games.
Uh, if you kno… morew that they're shitty games, you wouldn't call them "true horror games." So, uh. Yeah. No.
There, you wanna jump to some more conclusions?
This is so painfully hypocritical, but gave me a nice cackle.
Posting reaction gifs =/= "starting bullshit"
Yes, I may have gone overboard there. It's been a pretty shitty night and I'm so sensi… moretive that... fuck, I don't have a good joke about sensitivity to place there.
you wouldn't call them "true horror games."
Not true. Alan Wake and Silent Hill: Downpour are pieces of shit, but they still classify as true horror games. True horror games in the sense that they aren't games with shitty horror themes in the story.
This is so painfully hypocritical, but gave me a nice cackle.
Again, after the interactions we've had, when have you known me to be anything other than hypocritical? This should come as no surprise to you, nor should it give you a "cackle".
I do apologize for being edgy, however your shitty gifs really weren't needed. At least, 3 of them weren't. One would be just fine, preferably one of Tom Cruise laughing like an idiot. That's all I ask. Anyway, sorry, kinda being a dick tonight.
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But don't you hate it when users on here crap on Telltale's Games? I agree with you, there is a lot of crapping on GOT and TWD S2 in particular, but you're kinda doing the same thing at times. :T
"Crap" was a bad term to use, I apologize for that. Do I criticize it a lot, yes, but most of the time when I do talk about it, it is exactly that, criticisms, not just completely shitting on it like what people do sometimes with TWD or GOT. Sometimes, yes I do go too far, and I do apologize for that, but I have stressed the legitimate problems I have with the game, and you've seen that, while some people just say how TWD sucks without offering their reasoning. If someone says why they don't like S2 or GOT, I have no problem, it's the needless bashing that grinds my gears, and I admit that I have done that with LiS, and I really do apologize for that.
I understand, and it's alright. I hate it too, when people don't really have anything to back up their criticisms. Or when it's pretty much "I don't like this game/console because I just don't, the ones who made it should call it quits"
I honestly liked both Tales and LIS a lot, GOT I had more issues with, mostly technical ones with glitches, and losing my save file, but at the end of the day, I still liked it and I am looking forward to the second season. I'm also looking forward to seeing Dontnod's next game, Vampyr, in action, which seems to be a departure from both RM and LIS in some ways. Then again, going from a linear game to open world game isn't always a good idea.
All I know is that this thread started off talking about Tales winning first in comedy and second in adventure. Though, because it LOST to LIS you and others feel the need to crap on it. Whether your reasons hold any weight is irrelevant as this post is about Tales and not LIS. You along with others MADE it about LIS because you wanted to.
You think that LIS sucks and yet you and others constantly bring it up. If you don't like something then you shouldn't constantly bring it up as it brings it more attention. Hell, most people actually go for games that people crap on and end up liking way more than expected. Who knows you might actually be making people turn into LIS fans from saying it sucks.
Again, I have criticized LiS LONG before I heard about these awards, I haven't been a fan of LiS since the beginning. From the very first episode I didn't like it, the characters were boring and stereotypical, the writing wasn't good, the dialogue was cringeworthy, and their decision to not go in depth about Max's time powers was dumb. I intended this thread to tell people to vote, not to talk about LiS, but I have no control over what others chose to do, and they, just as much as you, are entitled to their opinions. If they don't like the game, fine, if you do, fine, but we should be allowed to discuss reasons for not liking it or reasons for liking it in an open discussion.
What of Layers of Fear?
Granted, it was really short, but still.
Layers of Fear was pretty good. But it wasn't so much as scary as it was interesting.
Hey, we all have our opinions about LIS and other TTG series.
Though, you are a part of the problem. Once someone mention how LIS was beating the witcher initially....the tone of this thread changed from Tales to talking about LIS. Whether we were criticizing LIS or praising it we were talking about it. LIS has you talking about it over Tales which many consider to be their favorite game.
Also, should be known that LIS may(most likely) has a bigger fanbase than Tales. Then you have a big section of that fanbase that is committed to the game and keeps up with it. Our some of LIS fans obsessed?...Hell yeah and so are Tales and Witcher and a ton of other games. You may not like it and that is your opinion but it is obvious a ton of other people feel otherwise.
No need to always make LIS the tagline when talking about other narrative based games. Then again maybe you should as it creates more interest for LIS.
remember me is quite a good game but the fighting mechanic is terrible and dosent always work properly
MGS4 was my favorite i can still remember that japanese song on the ipod i actually downloaded that song on my mp3 because of how catchy it was
That's exactly my point: I feel like Life is Strange is a step in the right direction. They got rid of the combat and just made it about the story and the event manipulation mechanic.
The writing itself went off the rails for me midway, but I feel they are getting closer to a working formula, so I hope awards/sales will allow them to continue try new things and I look forward to their next outing.
YESSSSSSSS.
I'M SO GLAD TALES SURPASSED SAINTS ROW. I'M SO HAPPY THEY WON EEEEEEEEEEE.
Ouch.
Either I'm reading that wrong, or that was unnecessarily rude.
I like to think that the concept of the writing (up until the end) was actually really great and different, but the way it was carried out wasn't.
I really did like Until Dawn, but it kind of just shoved stereotyped genres + characters (besides Josh IMO) into one big game with the butterfly effect thrown into it. It wasn't all that original, but at the same time, it was. It's really hard to go about the game. But I think it depicted mental illness amazingly, even if some people still didn't understand or forgive Josh's character.
Eh hem, allow me to post what else I said before you start bullshit for no reason:
That'd be me referencing the fact that they're both shitty games. However, they are horror games. And as such, they are put in the horror game category (Somehow). There, you wanna jump to some more conclusions?
Yeah, it was pretty rude. Oh well, fuck it, it's the past now.
Posting reaction gifs =/= "starting bullshit"
Uh, if you know that they're shitty games, you wouldn't call them "true horror games." So, uh. Yeah. No.
This is so painfully hypocritical, but gave me a nice cackle.
Or you can, y'know, edit it out and apologize to them. That'd be the decent thing to do instead of shrugging it off.
True, true. Perhaps I will.
Yes, I may have gone overboard there. It's been a pretty shitty night and I'm so sensitive that... fuck, I don't have a good joke about sensitivity to place there.
Not true. Alan Wake and Silent Hill: Downpour are pieces of shit, but they still classify as true horror games. True horror games in the sense that they aren't games with shitty horror themes in the story.
Again, after the interactions we've had, when have you known me to be anything other than hypocritical? This should come as no surprise to you, nor should it give you a "cackle".
I do apologize for being edgy, however your shitty gifs really weren't needed. At least, 3 of them weren't. One would be just fine, preferably one of Tom Cruise laughing like an idiot. That's all I ask. Anyway, sorry, kinda being a dick tonight.
Yep. I'm well aware of the irony.