Old Monkey Island setup help!

Before I buy either COMI or EFMI (Lucasarts Classics) I need to know if they work on Windows Vista, help would be apprieciated.

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  • edited July 2009
    Go to SCUMMVM.org for help on how to play CoMI. EfMI should work fine on Vista, or at least it did for me.
  • edited July 2009
    EFMI works fine on Vista.
    COMI works perfect on almost any platform with ScummVM (I enjoyed very much playing it on my Wii). Without it, I think it still works quite well on Vista
  • edited July 2009
    plrichard wrote: »
    Go to SCUMMVM.org for help on how to play CoMI. EfMI should work fine on Vista, or at least it did for me.

    Yeahhhhh, my Dad won't let me download anything like that for COMI.
  • edited July 2009
    IIRC, the only big problem to get CoMI working on Vista is some issue with the installation of DirectX. I don't know how to solve it (because I always use ScummVM), but I know it can be solved.
  • edited July 2009
    Well Javi-Wan says it will work on Vista, most likely with compatibility mode. But it might run fine in native Vista...I don't know, I didn't try.
  • edited July 2009
    plrichard wrote: »
    Well Javi-Wan says it will work on Vista, most likely with compatibility mode. But it might run fine in native Vista...I don't know, I didn't try.

    So Escape will work, and Curse might without Vista?
    I have knowledge I am able to change compatible systems, I just don't know how.
  • edited July 2009
    I'm in work now. When I return home I'll try to install CoMI in Vista without ScummVM and I'll tell you if it works and how (maybe I replay it while I'm waiting for the ToMI WiiWare release)
  • edited July 2009
    I'm in work now. When I return home I'll try to install CoMI in Vista without ScummVM and I'll tell you if it works and how (maybe I replay it while I'm waiting for the ToMI WiiWare release)
    If you're in USA, I'll see results tomorrow for me I assume ¬.¬ .
  • edited July 2009
    I'm in Spain. But probably I'll have the results for you tomorrow, anyway.
  • edited July 2009
    I'm in Spain. But probably I'll have the results for you tomorrow, anyway.

    Spanish, my brother is very good at Spanish.
    Ok then, it's just I don't want to buy it to find it unplayable.
  • edited July 2009
    You could try these:

    http://quick.mixnmojo.com/cmi-setup
    http://quick.mixnmojo.com/escape-from-monkey-island-setup

    I have not tried them myself, but it looks like they should make them work on Vista.
  • edited July 2009
    If SS the Free!'s father won't download ScummVM, I doubt he will download these installers.
    ScummVM is much more useful, though: not only CoMI, but many, many others old and good games will work smooth as silk on Vista.
  • edited July 2009
    If SS the Free!'s father won't download ScummVM, I doubt he will download these installers.
    ScummVM is much more useful, though: not only CoMI, but many, many others old and good games will work smooth as silk on Vista.
    He gets nervous on hidden Viruses and Charges.
    It dosen't help Avira Antivir Personal blames all downloads of viruses, even Google Earth.
  • edited July 2009
    Sorry, must have missed that post.

    COMI should work on vista without ScummVM.
    I installed it on my sisters laptop (Home Premium x86) and I had no trouble with the installation, but the game froze after a few minutes. But I never tried changing compatibility mode.
  • DjNDBDjNDB Moderator
    edited July 2009
    He gets nervous on hidden Viruses and Charges.
    It dosen't help Avira Antivir Personal blames all downloads of viruses, even Google Earth.

    In that case he should not even use an operating system or any computer at all. Imagine a Root kit hooked into the BIOS, silently rerouting all network traffic to an Attacker.

    IT Security is all about trust. You have to choose who you trust all the time. How do you know you can trust Avira?

    Maybe your father set Avira's Heuristic to maximum paranoia mode. Then it's no surprise he gets a lot more false positives. To easiest way to find out is too look at the name of what has been found. If it starts with HEUR/ the heuristic assumes that the program might be malware because of certain characteristics in its behavior.
  • edited July 2009
    DjNDB wrote: »
    In that case he should not even use an operating system or any computer at all. Imagine a Root kit hooked into the BIOS, silently rerouting all network traffic to an Attacker.

    IT Security is all about trust. You have to choose who you trust all the time. How do you know you can trust Avira?

    Maybe your father set Avira's Heuristic to maximum paranoia mode. Then it's no surprise he gets a lot more false positives. To easiest way to find out is too look at the name of what has been found. If it starts with HEUR/ the heuristic assumes that the program might be malware because of certain characteristics in its behavior.
    It blames everything has Trojans.
  • edited July 2009
    I'm home now.

    EfMI works great installing the game as-is, without messing with compatibility modes or home-made installers/launchers.

    I've tried several methods to play CoMI on my Vista Home Premium 32 bits computer.
    * Doing nothing (trying ton install and play the game as-is, without other programs and/or compatibility modes): DOESN'T work at all for me.
    * Trying several combinations of compatibility modes during and after installation, without any other program: DOESN'T work either for me (but I've heard people who managed to have it working that way)
    * ScummVM: Works perfect. My favorite method, since it allows you to play many other games.
    * The home-made setup that BlueToxic suggested: Works perfect too.

    CoMI is a much better game than EfMI, you should play it. Try to convince your father to download ScummVM or the other program. If he is, no offense intended, such a paranoid about viruses and trojans, you shouldn't be on the Internet at all.
  • edited July 2009
    comi works fine ion vista unles you have a 64 bit os then you need scummvm
  • edited July 2009
    Yeahhhhh, my Dad won't let me download anything like that for COMI.

    Why not? what is his reasoning?

    Each to their own - but where does the line get crossed - free software / software updates or is it the fact it may encourage piracy?
  • DjNDBDjNDB Moderator
    edited July 2009
    It blames everything has Trojans.
    Actually being careful is better than being careless when it comes to security.
    For your purpose you/he could set up a user account with only minimal privileges needed for the games. That would be a reasonable compromise between being overprotective and rationality.
    What good is a computer if you can't do anything with it?

    But when I think about it... I assume it is his work computer? In that case I can absolutely understand his careful behavior.
    Nevertheless such an account would be a reasonable way to keep the system and his data safe while you can play your games, as long as they don't require higher privileges for being installed or even executed.
    ScummVM is available as a zip file that doesn't need installation. That would be suitable for your purpose. The actual games don't need to be installed either. They just need to be readale by ScummVM.
  • edited July 2009
    You can be sure that ScummVM is much less likely to contain viruses or anything like that than your disc based games. Mostly because it is a) very popular and b) open source, which means that dozens of volunteers are constantly reviewing the code to make sure that it doesn't.

    And if you say "stuff like that" I assume that your father perceives anything that's free as "some illegal stuff that they stole and are now using as a hook to install viruses". And there are certainly cases where we would be right, but there's also truly free stuff. Firefox is such an Open Source/Free program. You trust them, right? ScummVM falls into the same category
  • edited July 2009
    To get Curse of monkey island working on vista without scummvm i downloaded this, http://quick.mixnmojo.com/cmi-setup then i set compatability mode of the COMI.EXE file to windows 95. It worked perfectly.
  • edited July 2009
    BlueToxic wrote: »
    You could try these:

    http://quick.mixnmojo.com/cmi-setup
    http://quick.mixnmojo.com/escape-from-monkey-island-setup

    I have not tried them myself, but it looks like they should make them work on Vista.

    EMI wouldn't install on my PC with Vista so I had to use their setup program to install it and I also use their launcher to run it, but I just use ScummVM for CMI.
  • edited July 2009
    DjNDB wrote: »
    Actually being careful is better than being careless when it comes to security.
    For your purpose you/he could set up a user account with only minimal privileges needed for the games. That would be a reasonable compromise between being overprotective and rationality.
    What good is a computer if you can't do anything with it?

    But when I think about it... I assume it is his work computer? In that case I can absolutely understand his careful behavior.
    Nevertheless such an account would be a reasonable way to keep the system and his data safe while you can play your games, as long as they don't require higher privileges for being installed or even executed.
    ScummVM is available as a zip file that doesn't need installation. That would be suitable for your purpose. The actual games don't need to be installed either. They just need to be readale by ScummVM.

    It is indeed his work computer.
    But how do I get this zip file?

    Sooooo long story short COMI dosen't work without a download or SCUMMVM
    and EFMI will work.
    Also, how do I find out if my PC is 64 bit or not?
    Also, Does the UK version have the Pirate song?
  • edited July 2009
    The zip-file can be found here:
    http://www.scummvm.org/downloads/

    To see if you have 32 or 64-bit right-click on "My computer" and select properties.

    And I believe the UK version has the pirate song.
  • edited July 2009
    BlueToxic wrote: »
    And I believe the UK version has the pirate song.
    Maybe not. I think the UK version is the standard UE version, and it's for sure that Spanish and German version don't have the song. Well, the song IS always there, but hidden.
    If you want the song with any CoMI version (even Spanish or German), you must play it with ScummVM and select English (US) (not UK) as language
  • edited July 2009
    I own the UK version and it always showed the song for me.
  • edited July 2009
    I know you can buy a launcher for COMI and EOMI to let it work on Vista, didnt let me install it normally
  • edited July 2009
    Sooo...
    Does Escape work on a 32 bit?
    Curse should have the song on the UK version.
  • edited July 2009
    I'm pretty sure it will work, but I'm not 100% sure it will work without the setup I mentioned earlier.
  • edited July 2009
    Just a quick question.
    Does EFMI and COMI work on XP?
  • edited July 2009
    I didn't have any problem with them on XP. Never.
    I think there may be problems if it's 64 bits XP.
  • edited July 2009
    I had some trouble with running COMI on XP... used the Q+E installer someone linked to above, and the opening cutscenes would skip forward once in a while for some reason. I didn't try terribly hard to get it to work right... decided I'd rather just run the game in ScummVM and it's working fine for me there. But if anyone knows how to solve the problem I was having with cutscenes skipping, I'd be happy to hear it.
  • edited July 2009
    Is XP home Premium 64 bits?
  • edited July 2009
    Is XP home Premium 64 bits?

    I think there is a 64-bit version of WinXP Home Premium but this wasn't too popular. You can find out for certain with this key combination:

    WinKey (between left Ctrl and Alt) + Pause/Break (the rightmost of the three keys by your Num Lock LED)

    Btw I copied the COMI files across manually and it works fine both in Windows Vista x64 and ScummVM without any tweaks. You can't do that with EFMI (as it joins two resource files together during installation and won't work without), so I downloaded the launchers on Mix n Mojo and ran them. Now EFMI also works without further tweaks.
  • edited July 2009
    Is XP home Premium 64 bits?

    I don't remember there being a WinXP Home Premium. As far as I can recall, there were just two flavors of XP: Home and Professional. (maybe Media Center Edition counts too) They added the "Premium" and "Basic" labels for Vista.

    If you have XP Home, it's probably 32 bit. But they might have made a 64-bit version...
  • edited July 2009
    Is XP home Premium 64 bits?

    To be quite honest i run Curse of Monkey Island without scummvm on Winxp. The only problem i encountered was that when guybrush fell in the sand he literally started drowning and then suddently started walking off the screen and out of the sand and it froze. I repeated the gameplay until the same part and quickly did the puzzle without problems.

    Other problem i found its when there where scenes running in the game, sometimes it sounded like the cd was scratched (whcih it isnt). I suggest you run it scummvm to make sure problems dont affect you. And that your dad watches what you are doping since he is so paranoic about everything.

    Tell him that you have done your search and that then program is a must. I didnt do it cuzz i was lazy. But Scummcm is easily configured to the game.
  • edited July 2009
    IIRC, the only big problem to get CoMI working on Vista is some issue with the installation of DirectX. I don't know how to solve it (because I always use ScummVM), but I know it can be solved.

    ummm... all i did regarding the directx thing, was setting the compatibility to windows98/me after installation and it works perfectly fine on my vista32 (without scummvm)
  • edited July 2009
    Although my Monkey 3 and 4 by default are PC discs (fine on XP and Vista), my Monkey 1 and 2 are 11 floppies each which work fine via excellent Cloanto Amiga emulator under XP and Vista (haven't tested them under Win 7 yet).
  • edited July 2009
    Any game works for any OS when set up right or something downloaded
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