Would Guybrush Be disappointed that I didn't take the Loot?

edited September 2009 in Tales of Monkey Island
I saw a 20 dollar bill on the ground today and I didn't take it, I saw someone watching me from a distance, and I figured it was some sort of experiment or test. The bill was nicely folded over and it looked like it was intended to be there. The bill was eliquotely placed on the pavement, everything looked clean and organized about it. It felt like some sort of test and the bill was the question being orderly given to me. Centered on the pavement there it sat, crisp with only one fold. I looked around and saw no one else that had any relationship to the bill, everyone was far away from it. I saw a person looking on from a distance.

From a distance I saw someone eyeing the bill, waiting for something. I picked the bill up and was lead to act out of this symbolic relationship I developed between the bill and I and the other person looking on, to give the bill to the first person I saw.

I asked if she wanted it, found it on the ground and she took it like starved animals, like a pack of wild wolves. GREED GREED!

Would GuyBrush be disappointed by the way I acted? :confused:

Sorry this post is redundant, I'm going through the motions.

I figured that I didn't earn it and that it was some one's hard earned money and if I couldn't return it I'd give it to some one else.

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  • edited September 2009
    depends. was this lady looking after a object that you needed, or was she stopping you from going sumwhere you needed to get? or did it open up any new dialogue options? if so i think guybrush would be kool with that
  • edited September 2009
    Let's examine this case:
    1)IT WAS AN EXPERIMENT: so the bill was meant to be there, someone put it there on purpose. So you should have kept it for yourself.
    2)SOMEBODY LOST IT: it was lost. It wasn't a wallet with documents, so you should have kept it for yourself.
  • edited September 2009
    Vitoner wrote: »
    Let's examine this case:
    1)IT WAS AN EXPERIMENT: so the bill was meant to be there, someone put it there on purpose. So you should have kept it for yourself.
    2)SOMEBODY LOST IT: it was lost. It wasn't a wallet with documents, so you should have kept it for yourself.

    1) (and 2)
    That's so predictable that in the vain of sin that I would take the money. It would simply provide as a function to sin and living out "human nature" (notice the quotes, man made) and in relative cases it would be so effectively inspiring to sin just as I had before because it would be accepted as human nature and I'd leave no gap open in between thought before sin. By doing something irregular or creating an story about today I am able to put more conscious and thought in between my initial thoughts and sins. Every time I see a dollar on the ground, as well as every time I'm faced with other sins that on some level relate to taking the money.

    $20.00 is the beginning of a priceless sin budget.

    The economy is doing so poorly and if I had taken the money it would have made a relationship with myself and sin, where my motives where governed by the over-played basic -and -primitive- human- nature observed in us all that inspires sins and takes what isn't theirs when necessary to statisify certain needs. Only I didn't really need the 20 dollars and I did not want to buy into sin. What you see isn't always what you get.

    See, I would have been positioned into the body of mind that socially governs sin based on a basic human and natural level. I would be primitive and strive to be no better, selfish at that given time even when subjected with a relative event.

    We need some selfless people right now, the World is going to hell and for all the basic reasons of human greed and our raw primitive nature as animals. Ultimately greed is not a good thing right now, times are getting desperate in the economy and the mentality of greed can be dangerous. First it's $20.00, then it's under handed business situations then it's cheating on my future GF or wife...then there's seeing nothing wrong or irregular about all of it. Not only does it
    bastardize me but it spreads onto others.

    What I got from the experience was a symbolic relationship. The money was brand new, crisp and had an even fold that folded it right in half. It was orderly and organized. It represented so many things in my mind, so many things that shouldn't be wronged and so I did not wrong them. That dollar bill was not a dollar bill it was an visual image socially and philosophically and creatively constructed in my brain. It's visual presentation really spoke to me it affected the way I acted. Although if It were a crusty one dollar bill perhaps I would have acted differently but not likely.

    That 20 dollar bill still spoke to me a better or worse future and I spent that 20 dollar bill and it has bought me a brighter future.
  • edited September 2009
    So rather than take something that isn't yours and keep it for yourself, you took something that wasn't yours and gave it to someone else? How is that other woman any more deserving of someone else's hard-earned money than you? There's absolutely nothing moral about what you did. If you really felt guilty, you could have given it to charity or summat.
  • edited September 2009
    I'd have taken it. Picking up money from the streets is not a sin, it's good luck. =)
  • edited September 2009
    So rather than take something that isn't yours and keep it for yourself, you took something that wasn't yours and gave it to someone else? How is that other woman any more deserving of someone else's hard-earned money than you? There's absolutely nothing moral about what you did. If you really felt guilty, you could have given it to charity or summat.

    I didn't really give it, I asked if they wanted it. I made it available to them but it wasn't truthfully mine to begin with. She isn't more deserving, I let her choose if she wanted the dollar. Taking the money may not be directly immoral because the original owner was gone but taking the money would be similar to many other situations that were wrong.

    I don't go around saving the day, I almost took the money, and was almost tempted and that's why I decided to ask someone else if they wanted it. I put some one else on a relative plane so that I could rationalize and intellectualize the situation and learn from it. I gave them the similar circumstances and read there actions like a book. I gave us a common ground and similar to social situations I observed and spoke my mind by offering it because I did not want it.
  • edited September 2009
    doodo! wrote: »
    I didn't really give it, I asked if they wanted it. I made it available to them but it wasn't truthfully mine to begin with. She isn't more deserving, I let her choose if she wanted the dollar. Taking the money may not be directly immoral because the original owner was gone but taking the money would be similar to many other situations that were wrong.

    I don't go around saving the day, I almost took the money, and was almost tempted and that's why I decided to ask someone else if they wanted it.

    Sounds like instead of accepting the sin for yourself, you made someone else take the sin upon them so you can go home with a good conscience. Yes. Guybrush WOULD be proud ^-^
  • edited September 2009
    Guinea wrote: »
    Sounds like instead of accepting the sin for yourself, you made someone else take the sin upon them so you can go home with a good conscience. Yes. Guybrush WOULD be proud ^-^

    I put some one else on a relative plane so that I could rationalize and intellectualize the situation and learn from it. I gave them similar circumstances and read their actions like a book. I gave us a common ground and similar to social situations where you listen and then speak ,I observed and spoke my mind by offering them the money because I did not want to take it. They are the ones that told me they wanted the money and the ones that told me that they would have taken it. It was only feet away from their path regardless.

    I did not put the temptation into them. They happen to be happy with the money, I would have not been happy with the money.

    LOL, you could be right, Guybrush would be proud in that sense. Maybe I'm over thinking something so simple, hahaha.
  • edited September 2009
    Hey Doodo! way to go man!
    So rather than take something that isn't yours and keep it for yourself, you took something that wasn't yours and gave it to someone else? How is that other woman any more deserving of someone else's hard-earned money than you? There's absolutely nothing moral about what you did. If you really felt guilty, you could have given it to charity or summat.

    If he had given the 20 to a charity, its still the same thing as giving away something that isn't his. But he picked up the 20 and instead of keeping it for himself he gave it to someone else. He couldn't have have just yelled out (Did somebody lose a 20 dollar bill!) I'm pretty sure a lot of people would be trying to claim it. Unfortunately that's how greedy this country is becoming :/ Since he picked up the 20 he was forced to do 3 things.

    1. Keep the 20

    2. Give it away (like he did)

    3. put it back down for someone who didn't deserve to take anyway.

    The point is he didn't want to give into mankind's sinful, greedy nature.
    so he got rid of the 20 instead of using it to fulfill his selfish desires.

    P.S. this post was in no way made to infuriate anyone. just trying to get his point across :)
  • edited September 2009
    Nice PS touch up, kind of like "TM" lol. I infuriate people often, thanks for helping me out.
  • edited September 2009
    No problem man :)
  • edited September 2009
    I think these types of dilemmas are a little silly, because if its a small amount of money like $20 the person who dropped it probably won't know where to find it and won't bother looking for it. The person who dropped it probably will never get it, and just someone else will pick it up. It isn't greedy to pick it up imo, its just not being neurotic.

    If its a large amount of money like $5,000 of course I wouldn't steal it, I'd turn it in.

    But yea if there was someone who looked like they needed the money more than me, I'd offer it to them. It would be crazy not to. But I'd give my own money also if I could afford it --- so its not an issue of found money vs. earned money. If you an afford giving and you see someone who deserves it you should consider giving.
  • edited September 2009
    Without getting into it too much, I've conditioned my brain to work like this. $20.00 or not I do "exercises" like this obsessively, it's lead to problems mentally as well as some sort of achievements.
  • edited September 2009
    My dear son, it doesn't matter whether you give the money to someone who really needs it or keep it for yourself, in both ways the money is LOST for the original owner.

    btw. if you would have overlooked the 20 bucks on the street, would you still have given the poor person 20 bucks from your own money? would you even have recognized this person?

    So the only complete sinless solutions for this problem would be to find the original owner, give him/her his/her money back AND helping the poor person (in case you haven't overlooked it).

    and yeah, i'm sure guybrush would like my solution. it would bring tears to his eyes.
    ...

    You're sins are forgiven, pray a decade of the rosary, you're dismissed.
  • edited September 2009
    I think we are all disappointed.
  • edited September 2009
    Cyphox wrote: »
    My dear son, it doesn't matter whether you give the money to someone who really needs it or keep it for yourself, in both ways the money is LOST for the original owner.

    btw. if you would have overlooked the 20 bucks on the street, would you still have given the poor person 20 bucks from your own money? would you even have recognized this person?

    So the only complete sinless solutions for this problem would be to find the original owner, give him/her his/her money back AND helping the poor person (in case you haven't overlooked it).

    and yeah, i'm sure guybrush would like my solution. it would bring tears to his eyes.
    ...

    You're sins are forgiven, pray a decade of the rosary, you're dismissed.

    :p, are you really a minister or priest? The way the economy is I've really given it some personal thought myself. That was a funny read though, the parts that were meant to be funny. A side from that I wouldn't mind preaching if it's about good stuff.
  • edited September 2009
    No, i'm not :p

    i'm not even that religious (i can't even remember the last time i went to church), i just wanted to figure out some aspects and the rights and wrongs after reading your post.

    i'm glad you liked it. ;)
  • edited September 2009
    I think the fundamental problem is that we're taking Guybrush's opinion as a basis for right or wrong.
  • edited September 2009
    Guybrush would've wanted you to take it and use it to purchase two copies of Secret of Monkey Island: Special Edition... just kidding, you'll get that 20 bucks someday! By that time there may be a special edition of Lechuck's Revenge!
  • edited September 2009
    PariahKing wrote: »
    I think the fundamental problem is that we're taking Guybrush's opinion as a basis for right or wrong.

    Yeah, he stole a duck!
  • edited September 2009
    jhuddy wrote: »
    Hey Doodo! way to go man!

    If he had given the 20 to a charity, its still the same thing as giving away something that isn't his. But he picked up the 20 and instead of keeping it for himself he gave it to someone else. He couldn't have have just yelled out (Did somebody lose a 20 dollar bill!) I'm pretty sure a lot of people would be trying to claim it. Unfortunately that's how greedy this country is becoming :/ Since he picked up the 20 he was forced to do 3 things.

    1. Keep the 20

    2. Give it away (like he did)

    3. put it back down for someone who didn't deserve to take anyway.

    The point is he didn't want to give into mankind's sinful, greedy nature.
    so he got rid of the 20 instead of using it to fulfill his selfish desires.

    P.S. this post was in no way made to infuriate anyone. just trying to get his point across :)

    I was kind of suggesting he should have kept it, but if he really wanted to get on his high horse then giving it to a random stranger isn't the way to do it.
  • edited September 2009
    Above all else, Guybrush is a pirate.

    And he would take loot.
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