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Kind of a big plot hole since EMI... fix telltale?

ToddDToddD
edited September 2009 in Tales of Monkey Island
What ever happened to LeChuck's demonic Army of the Damned? I mean the two pirates from CMI (with the "big boned" one), Murray, and Bob are all some of the funniest MI characters. Could we at least get a "Meanwhile... Under Monkey Island..." and have them all on the ship wondering where LeChuck is and why he hasn't come back?

I miss those guys...

Comments

  • GuineaGuinea
    edited September 2009
    Bob is dead, and Murray is no longer a member of LeChuck's crew and is confirmed to show up somewhere in Tales

    Reduces your problem to 50% of its original size, I hope that helps.
  • SlanzingerSlanzinger
    edited September 2009
    Guinea wrote: »
    Bob is dead, and Murray is no longer a member of LeChuck's crew and is confirmed to show up somewhere in Tales

    Reduces your problem to 50% of its original size, I hope that helps.

    Actually,
    Bob isn't necessarily dead.
    Although
    how it appears in the canon is open to suggestion, as you could rescue your crew from Monkey Island in the first game, and still in EMI it will assume you sunk their ship
  • GuineaGuinea
    edited September 2009
    Slanzinger wrote: »
    Actually,
    Bob isn't necessarily dead.
    Although
    how it appears in the canon is open to suggestion, as you could rescue your crew from Monkey Island in the first game, and still in EMI it will assume you sunk their ship

    You know, it would be cool if sequels to videogames with alternate endings would look at your save file and the game changes depending on what you did.
  • LennieMelvinLennieMelvin
    edited September 2009
    I hate to break it to you guys, but Bob has been dead since SOMI, Murray since CMI... but Bob could've been
    'rootbeered' by Guybrush

    Although good point, what did happen to all of LeChuck's army? They can't have all been
    buried by the explosion at Big Woop
    .
  • DeLucaDeLuca
    edited September 2009
    Yeah they all weren't under the monkey head. And also the monkey head survived. I mean frankly EMI should have had carnival wreckage everywhere, but then again we all know how I feel EMI isn't part of the series. Monkey Kombat, Robots, Starbucks, Planet Threepwood, Pink boat, American Elaine, Melee Island that didnt look like Melee Island, LUA BAR.

    Grrrrrrrr

    Dont even get me started on how we've been through the monkey head over two times and never was there a robot and then oen just appears, appearing to have completely ignored the fact that all games before it had it leading to catacombs. You think guybrush would remember walking through a giant robot to get to the catacombs.

    *calm down*
  • LennieMelvinLennieMelvin
    edited September 2009
    DeLuca wrote: »
    You think guybrush would remember walking through a giant robot to get to the catacombs.

    :D Made me laugh soo much
  • Javi-Wan KenobiJavi-Wan Kenobi
    edited September 2009
    But the giant monkey head is not the same head that the giant monkey robot has.
    So I think that in SMI and CMI we enter the giant monkey head through a passage that leads to the lava river and the catacombs, but in EMI, since we open the giant monkey head by making the Ultimate Insult with it, not with the cotton swab -and previously we did something moving lava from one place to another-, we enter the giant monkey head and we go through another passage (previously noy visible, now opened) who leads to the giant monkey robot, somewhere under the giant head, not the giant head itself.

    I say, it's as if the giant monkey head is a door that leads to two different corridors depending which key you use to open it.
  • DeLucaDeLuca
    edited September 2009
    Possibly, Kenobi, but it doesn't matter because EMI doesn't count.

    I mean... what game?
  • BernusBernus
    edited September 2009
    DeLuca wrote: »

    I mean... what game?

    Its called:

    ESCAPE FROM MONKEY ISLAND
  • balin2kbalin2k
    edited September 2009
    we cannot deny EMI ever existed! how could mankind ever learn from its mistakes?
  • DeLucaDeLuca
    edited September 2009
    Seriously I don't know what you guys are talking about, is that a fan game or something?

    *crazy eyes* I LOVE how TMI takes place right after Guybrush and Elaine's 10 year honeymoon following CMI. I hope they make a 5th game after this, TMI, the 4th one.

    Ahem.
  • SpadgeSpadge
    edited September 2009
    So you are a member of the undead. What happens when your hellspawned flame-bearded boss is destroyed by a skinny blonde guy?

    a) The Grim Reaper Theory - You quetly turn into a small pile of bones as your soul is sent to rest. Since Murray is still around, I guess not.
    b) The Average Joe Theory - Umm, try to live a normal life and blend with the rest of the Carribean population.
    c) The Jolly Roger Theory - You do what pirates do when their captain kicks the bell - choose a new captain, steal the nearest ship and sail wherever the wind takes you.
    d) Something else?
  • balin2kbalin2k
    edited September 2009
    LOL would be funny to see some undead pirates trying to live a normaly life. maybe now since le chuck is human his crew are too
  • BernusBernus
    edited September 2009
    balin2k wrote: »
    LOL would be funny to see some undead pirates trying to live a normaly life. maybe now since le chuck is human his crew are too

    sounds very pirates of the carribbean like...

    maybe they just...died?! (pure sarkasm)

    i mean they were pretty dumb, maybe without a leader they just spread throughout the carribbean and vanished through different reasons.
  • StansCoffinsStansCoffins
    edited September 2009
    I never realised you could kill Bob, I much prefer watching Herman's rather amicable conversation with him as if they've always been mates.

    I was never keen on the skeleton army in Curse of Monkey Island. In the first game LeChuck is a more traditional ghost pirate with a ship, and a ship needs a crew. They were mostly played for laughs. LeChuck's Revenge did away with them, and it's no coincidence that this game has the most effective portrayal of him. No motley crew of gangly skeletons, just a long-suffering henchman, a voodoo priest, and one evil rotting bastard with a massive grudge. I particularly liked how he didn't even care about Elaine in that game (from Curse onwards, his infatuation with her gave him what tvtropes would call "Badass Decay". He seems to be regaining an edge a bit in Tales though).
  • FuryFury
    edited September 2009
    The skeleton army of the undead in CMI was awesome.

    But I'm guessing something happened in the never made MI4, because at the start of TOMI, they're gone.
  • ToddDToddD
    edited September 2009
    thats what i like to hear about MI4 Fury

    And just because we dont see them doesnt mean they are gone, we never did see LeChuck's ship
  • FuryFury
    edited September 2009
    ToddD wrote: »
    thats what i like to hear about MI4 Fury

    And just because we dont see them doesnt mean they are gone, we never did see LeChuck's ship

    Good point. Maybe they showed up in Mi4 and Guybrush defeated them. Who knows?!?

    Heck, they may even appear in a later instalment of TOMI.
  • 108 Stars108 Stars
    edited September 2009
    Guys, you are forgetting that we are missing a Monkey Island adventure. The beginning of chapter 1 implies that there was pretty much a whole adventure going on between EMI and ToMI.
    I´d call Tales of Monkey Island Monkey Island 6, with the 5th part actually missing; as a gag by the developers, and possibly meant to explain plotholes like these.

    Everything unexplainable must have its reason in Guybrush´s quest to get the ingredients to turn that cutlass into an anti-LeChuck weapon.
  • FuryFury
    edited September 2009
    108 Stars wrote: »
    Guys, you are forgetting that we are missing a Monkey Island adventure. The beginning of chapter 1 implies that there was pretty much a whole adventure going on between CMI and ToMI.
    I´d call Tales of Monkey Island Monkey Island 5, with the 4th part actually missing; as a gag by the developers, and possibly meant to explain plotholes like these.

    Everything unexplainable must have its reason in Guybrush´s quest to get the ingredients to turn that cutlass into an anti-LeChuck weapon.

    lol I think that's a well established fact. They said that in the interviews.

    We know this. We're just speculating how that happened.
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