what's the secret of monkey island

edited September 2009 in Tales of Monkey Island
So guys what do you think it is? It really could be anything. I think Guybrush and his brother Chuckie went to an amusement park named Big Whoop. Then Guybrush ran away and found a ride named Monkey island. Chuckie and Guybrush then started playing there and imagined that they were pirates.
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  • edited September 2009
    Only Ron Gilbert knows, and he needs to make a third MI game in order to reveal it.
  • edited September 2009
    Indeed only one person knows the Secret to Monkey Island.
  • edited September 2009
    All will be explained in a few moments.
  • edited September 2009
    Honestly? I think we all know the Secret of Monkey Island. I think the reason that Gilbert hasn't told anyone and is so tight lipped is because we are taking the title out of context.

    If I said "Let me tell you the secret of my magic ring" and I went on to explain that I had a ring that was magic, you would not be wondering about some ADDITIONAL secret about it, the secret is that the ring itself exists and I obtained it.

    Likewise: The Secret of Monkey Island is referencing the fact that Monkey Island is a secret island that people cannot get to, and Guybrush must go after this secret island to rescue Elaine. The secret is that the island exists and cannot be reached by conventional means.

    Additionally: Tales of Monkey Island as a title is suggesting that the game itself is unravelling the tales it is referring to. The events in game ARE the tales. Not some stories or tales that guybrush could MAYBE discover about the island as a plot element, it is describing the game. So Secret of Monkey Island is describing the game rather than suggesting there is an in-game secret.

    Everyone started taking it out of context though and rather than disappoint everyone and say "wow you's all stoopid", Gilbert just decided to keep quiet and let our minds roam free and nuture our obsession with the series.
  • edited September 2009
    SO, the secret of Monkey Island is the following Voodoo Recipe?

    Preheat pot to 450 degrees
    Add the following ingredients:

    * 1 Cinnamon stick
    * 4 Leaves of Mint
    * 1 Human Skull (pressed)
    * 1 squirt Squid Ink
    * 2 pts Monkey Blood
    * 1 Live Chicken
    * 3 oz. Brimstone
    * 1 or more of the following:
    pyridoxine hydrochloride,
    zinc oxide, yellow 8
    mine mononitrate and BHA

    Let bubble over low flame until thickened. Serves crew of four.

    Of course Guybrush still makes it, even if he does ad-lib the ingredients.
  • edited September 2009
    DeLuca wrote: »
    Honestly? I think we all know the Secret of Monkey Island. I think the reason that Gilbert hasn't told anyone and is so tight lipped is because we are taking the title out of context.

    If I said "Let me tell you the secret of my magic ring" and I went on to explain that I had a ring that was magic, you would not be wondering about some ADDITIONAL secret about it, the secret is that the ring itself exists and I obtained it.

    Likewise: The Secret of Monkey Island is referencing the fact that Monkey Island is a secret island that people cannot get to, and Guybrush must go after this secret island to rescue Elaine. The secret is that the island exists and cannot be reached by conventional means.

    Additionally: Tales of Monkey Island as a title is suggesting that the game itself is unravelling the tales it is referring to. The events in game ARE the tales. Not some stories or tales that guybrush could MAYBE discover about the island as a plot element, it is describing the game. So Secret of Monkey Island is describing the game rather than suggesting there is an in-game secret.

    Everyone started taking it out of context though and rather than disappoint everyone and say "wow you's all stoopid", Gilbert just decided to keep quiet and let our minds roam free and nuture our obsession with the series.

    ^this is what I always assumed the title was referring to
  • edited September 2009
    The secret of Monkey Island is explained on Curse of Monkey Island. If you want to know the secret in the mind of Ron Gilbert, send an email to him and hope for a response... :D
  • edited September 2009
    the secret of monkey island is :"42"
  • edited September 2009
    The secret of Monkey Island is that it was always Ron Gilbert's plan to have a stupid ending to MI2, leave Lucasarts, and laugh maniacally when they made a third game and tried to pick up where his terrible ending left off.
  • edited September 2009
    Dark Byte wrote: »
    the secret of monkey island is :"42"

    I'd like to see those two universes meet one day...
  • edited September 2009
    The real secret of monkey island is actually that it's the island from Lost
    Ron Gilbert just got his hands on some early writings of that show and based monkey island off it
  • edited September 2009
    The secret is that Guybrush is actually a kid, Lechuck is his brother and Elaine is probably the babysitter or sister or something. It's all a kids game within a game. I beleive even the Tales are implying this with childish games like staring contests and king of the castle battles for control of the Narwhal. Not much of a secret. It's like the Vader thing. We didn't wan't to accept it when Vader said "Luke I am your father", but after Return, It became okay. This will be the secret.
  • edited September 2009
    dzamir wrote: »
    The secret of Monkey Island is explained on Curse of Monkey Island. If you want to know the secret in the mind of Ron Gilbert, send an email to him and hope for a response... :D

    I hate the attitude that some fans of Curse have, i.e. "Curse gave us an explanation, so therefore there's no point in debating it!"

    While Curse is possibly my favourite game in the series, I absolutely hate the way it ties up every ambiguity from the first two games, making the wonderfully surreal last few hours of LeChuck's Revenge into nothing more than "LeChuck built an unfunny Disneyland parody and used it to curse Guybrush. And Big Whoop is the gates of hell."

    Anyone seen the show Life on Mars? The whole series is based around the idea that a man has an accident and wakes up in the 70s, and throughout there is ambiguity as to whether he's in a coma, time travelling or simply mad. The ending is satisfying, partly because it still leaves in a bit ambiguous (unlike the American remake, which explains everything).

    It wouldn't have been that difficult to make Curse a bit like that. Keep it unclear as to whether Guybrush is still a kid relapsing back into his fantasy, or whether that was some kind of curse. But no, we have a long chapter of retconning courtesy of LeChuck, and the game takes a nosedive from perfection to embarrassment.
  • edited September 2009
    Ron Gilbert has already stated that the secret of Monkey Island has NOT been revealed in any of the MI games so far, and that the true secret would be revealed if he got to work on MI5.

    That would then eliminate:

    1. The secret is finding the island.
    2. The secret is Guybrush is a kid pretending to be a pirate.
    3. The secret is an "army of the undead" creator.
  • edited September 2009
    Frankly I kind of like the Carnival of the Damned, it's really messed up. I think it is genuinely creepy to think that there would be a sadistic audience for that place to exist. Satanists and the like
  • edited September 2009
    DeLuca wrote: »
    Honestly? I think we all know the Secret of Monkey Island. I think the reason that Gilbert hasn't told anyone and is so tight lipped is because we are taking the title out of context.

    If I said "Let me tell you the secret of my magic ring" and I went on to explain that I had a ring that was magic, you would not be wondering about some ADDITIONAL secret about it, the secret is that the ring itself exists and I obtained it.

    Likewise: The Secret of Monkey Island is referencing the fact that Monkey Island is a secret island that people cannot get to, and Guybrush must go after this secret island to rescue Elaine. The secret is that the island exists and cannot be reached by conventional means.

    Additionally: Tales of Monkey Island as a title is suggesting that the game itself is unravelling the tales it is referring to. The events in game ARE the tales. Not some stories or tales that guybrush could MAYBE discover about the island as a plot element, it is describing the game. So Secret of Monkey Island is describing the game rather than suggesting there is an in-game secret.

    Everyone started taking it out of context though and rather than disappoint everyone and say "wow you's all stoopid", Gilbert just decided to keep quiet and let our minds roam free and nuture our obsession with the series.
    it could be.... but why would a genious game creator create a secret that is so lame and retarded?? There's got to be a secret. There has got to be the secret behind all the MI games. And that's the secret of monkey island. A genious secret exists :D.
  • edited September 2009
    Some say there are portals in the pirate world around the Caribbean; or that the secret is the location of Monkey Island itself; or, finally, because of MI2's ending, that Guybrush is just a young boy who is visiting a theme park. On these suggestions Ron Gilbert once commented, "One is closer than the others--but not much
  • edited September 2009
    The secret is that
    the crew is just a bunch of monkeys!
  • edited September 2009
    I know, what the secret of Donkey Island is. :D
  • edited September 2009
    Today when I played SMI:SE, I heard the voodoo lady say something along the lines of:
    "You will learn a terrible truth about our world" or something. I think that's when you talk to her after Elaine is gone.

    But in neither SMI nor MI2, I can remember a terrible truth or anything about Guybrush's world... Maybe I'm misinterpreting that line or I am missing something obvious that I forgot in that moment.
  • edited September 2009
    Geypi wrote: »
    it could be.... but why would a genious game creator create a secret that is so lame and retarded?? There's got to be a secret. There has got to be the secret behind all the MI games. And that's the secret of monkey island. A genious secret exists :D.

    The most likely answer is that the second game WAS the actual secret of Monkey Island as the series ended with MI2. When MI was reborn 6 years later, they killed the "Guybrush is a kid" secret in favor of "The carnival made Guybrush think he was a kid and he escaped on a bumper car".

    Gilbert himself probably doesn't know the secret of Monkey Island right now. He would need to sit down and think of one that would both amaze everyone and be accepted by everyone(unlike The Ultimate Insult).
  • edited September 2009
    StoutFiles wrote: »
    The most likely answer is that the second game WAS the actual secret of Monkey Island as the series ended with MI2. When MI was reborn 6 years later, they killed the "Guybrush is a kid" secret in favor of "The carnival made Guybrush think he was a kid and he escaped on a bumper car".

    Gilbert himself probably doesn't know the secret of Monkey Island right now. He would need to sit down and think of one that would both amaze everyone and be accepted by everyone(unlike The Ultimate Insult).

    well the ultimate insult was so retarded :D... why woud you wait for someone to insult you if you can kill him just like that :D.
  • edited September 2009
    Ron Gilbert said that the story was so big they decided to make 3 games out of it, instead of one and the secret would be revealed in the third one. I don't think any of the secrets mentioned before is enough for a 40 hour game. So there is plenty of room for another massive twist in the story like the ending of the 2nd one. The reason why ron gilbert hasn't told the secret yet is as he stated "people like questions more than answers". But I'm convinced there is a secret we haven't found yet, because ron is a nice guy and wouldn't lie to his fans just to keep up the interest in his games.
  • edited September 2009
    The secret is that Guybrush is gay.
  • edited September 2009
    Vitoner wrote: »
    The secret is that Guybrush is gay.
    that's secret to no one, darling
  • edited September 2009
    Vitoner wrote: »
    The secret is that Guybrush is gay.

    you wish
  • edited September 2009
    Guybrush isn't but Winslow...
  • edited September 2009
    DeLuca wrote: »
    Guybrush isn't but Winslow...

    or Guybrush actually is Winslow and because his life on Flotsom was so boring waiting on the narwhal for someone who kicks him down, he images to be a mighty pirate - namly guybrush - who actually set him free of his duty to guard the narwhal and releases him of this unforsaken and eternal duty. hows that?!
  • edited September 2009
    Bernus wrote: »
    or Guybrush actually is Winslow and because his life on Flotsom was so boring waiting on the narwhal for someone who kicks him down, he images to be a mighty pirate - namly guybrush - who actually set him free of his duty to guard the narwhal and releases him of this unforsaken and eternal duty. hows that?!

    hmpfff
  • edited September 2009
    Jokes apart, I'd really love to torture Ron Gilbert to death to know the real secret. MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.
    Am I evil?
    Yes I am.
  • edited September 2009
    Vitoner wrote: »
    Jokes apart, I'd really love to torture Ron Gilbert to death to know the real secret. MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.
    Am I evil?
    Yes I am.

    hahaha i would put a stick in his ass and ask him ,,What is brown and sticky??!!,,... almost nobody knows the anwser is stick :D. Hahaha ok no i couldn' do that... ok wait i could :D.
  • edited September 2009
    If you never get the opportunity to make your own version of Monkey Island 3, will we ever learn the real story of what happened to Guybrush, LeChuck, and Elaine?

    RG: Yes, oh yes! And it will...blow...you...away.

    Is the idea for Monkey Island 3 just in your head or do you have the script lying in a drawer somewhere?

    RG: It's mostly in my head, but I did write out the basic story line, which I've probably lost by now. But it's still in my head.
  • edited September 2009
    that's interesting, too:

    Some fans would like to see MI1 remade with today's graphic and voices. Is that something you think is a good idea or do you feel it should be left as it is, for nostalgic reasons.

    RG: Remaking MI1 would be a huge mistake and wouldn't add anything to the game. Having recently played the game again, it's just fine.
  • edited September 2009
    If you never get the opportunity to make your own version of Monkey Island 3, will we ever learn the real story of what happened to Guybrush, LeChuck, and Elaine?

    RG: Yes, oh yes! And it will...blow...you...away.

    Is the idea for Monkey Island 3 just in your head or do you have the script lying in a drawer somewhere?

    RG: It's mostly in my head, but I did write out the basic story line, which I've probably lost by now. But it's still in my head.
    Maybe it would help you if i put something in your ass!!(use stick with RG's asshole)
    RG:aaaaagh noooo pleaaase.
    Now tell me! I will put that thing out if you tell me what is brown and sticky!
    RG:aaam shit?
    You're talking SHIT! That's the wrong answer now make the game!!!!(use finger with mouth.... use wet finger with RG's ear).
    RG: aaaaagh


    ok yeah i'm bored :D.
  • edited September 2009
    I think the secret is the story of Guybrush and Ealine defeating Lechuck in their adventures. The story of the games. You know how in some places call a story that happened long ago a "secret" of that area, so maybe the secret is the story of Guybrush and Lechuck. This is form a guy who has only played tales though.
    I also heard in an interview of one of the MI creators in the 2009 edition of the video game world records(monkey island got a full page in dedication with rewards like most debated ending and first game to get a play bassed after, sam and max got the first episodic point n click award) that the secret of monkey island was
    PI
    :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
  • edited September 2009
    The Secret of Monkey Island is the title of the game like stated before, I never thought anything more of it... this is fed by the fact that no other game in the series carry the "secret" title.....

    It's just like "Who Framed Roger Rabbit"... the movie has nothing to do with Roger actually being framed (this is just a VERY small part in the story), the title is more of a catchphrase than an actual refference to the entire story.
    the exact same can be said for "Three Kings", "Shanghai Noon", "The Black Gauldron", "Ronin" and many many more movies and other stories
  • edited September 2009
    The Secret of Monkey Island is the last scene in the film Monty Python and the Holy Grail. ;)
  • edited September 2009
    Ash735 wrote: »
    The Secret of Monkey Island is the last scene in the film Monty Python and the Holy Grail. ;)

    basicly... that's the ending of MI2 then.
  • edited September 2009
    jortlaban wrote: »
    The Secret of Monkey Island is the title of the game like stated before, I never thought anything more of it... this is fed by the fact that no other game in the series carry the "secret" title.....

    It's just like "Who Framed Roger Rabbit"... the movie has nothing to do with Roger actually being framed (this is just a VERY small part in the story), the title is more of a catchphrase than an actual refference to the entire story.
    the exact same can be said for "Three Kings", "Shanghai Noon", "The Black Gauldron", "Ronin" and many many more movies and other stories

    If that was true than why did guybrush ask lechuck what the secret is... and if he knew it would he then say to guybrush: It's you a few years back.... nonono it's not that there is a secret connected to the story.
  • edited September 2009
    Geypi wrote: »
    If that was true than why did guybrush ask lechuck what the secret is... and if he knew it would he then say to guybrush: It's you a few years back.... nonono it's not that there is a secret connected to the story.

    That is what's called a story-tellers JOKE, a Joke I found hilarious by the way... like the stump-joke in SoMI... or did you actually look for Disc 12 and disc 144????

    and what ever happened to that attacking BEAR in CoMI
    Or that drowned character off the coast of Blood Island???

    Or the gorilla from Monkey Island 2.

    Who killed the guy selling the "Grim Fandango" pitch???

    And why were the voodoo-lady's cousins playing with a voodoo doll of the crypt keeper???

    Where did Ol' Pegbiter go to???

    Whatever happened to the cook of the bloody lip??? he's nowhere to be found on the island.....

    How did you even arive at Scabb with all that cash, and on what did Largo spend it all???

    all those things are not relevant or are meant as jokes and are in the same line as the title of the first game.
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