You can like a game and still be disappointed. I know someone who's started playing the Special Edition, his first Monkey Island game. He's enjoying the game (because Secret is, at heart, an amazing game) but he bloody hates the new art style. He finds it preferable to the pixel graphics, but that's not the point. Of course the graphics are an improvement over pixels to most people, but you shouldn't be comparing them to an almost 20-year-old game!
for the record i thought the updated graphics were beautiful. i would spend a lot of time just looking at the details and going back and forth from the old graphics to the new. i loved MI1 when it came out and i loved the SE (with the small exception of the lame verb and item menu system - and guybrush's hair). but the graphics were pretty nicely done.
i get people complaining about the controls and the sprites/animations, but the painted backgrounds were really well done. very impressive, yet still pretty true to the original art.
of course the new graphics are an improvement, but you shouldnt be comparing them to 20-year-old graphics to say they look ugly?
i think you've lost your point. or i have.
Do I have to spell it out? The fact that newcomers to Monkey Island may prefer the new graphics to the old doesn't mean that they actually like the new art style. The people I know who are playing the Special Edition dislike the new art style, but find it infinitely preferable to playing a game where the screen's made up of pixels. That doesn't mean they don't think that the new character models look awful.
Their opinions are stupid if they can't stand to enjoy something that is still as fun as it was 20 years ago. Monkey Island ALWAYS looked like that, and amazingly people found it fun to play back then. Technological advances don't make the older productions less fun. That's impossible.
from everything i've read about the reception of this game, people LOVE the voice work and redone music, they LIKE the art (with the exception of guybrush and his zack morris wig), they still LOVE the story and humor, and they DISLIKE the controls (why the hell would you make a point and click game LESS intuitive? you mean i have to select a verb in one menu, then close it, then open another menu to click on an item, then CLOSE that menu to click on something in the world, and if i miss-click, i have to do it all over again?!). a great game with a major fault becomes a good game.
Rofl, this is exactly what I think about the special edition. I am people!!
Their opinions are stupid if they can't stand to enjoy something that is still as fun as it was 20 years ago. Monkey Island ALWAYS looked like that, and amazingly people found it fun to play back then. Technological advances don't make the older productions less fun. That's impossible.
Are you talking about the new art style or the original pixellated graphics? Because it's not illogical to imagine that people who didn't grow up on the old games may find a screen full of pixels unattractive. Either way, even if these people were to play with the old graphics, to do so would mean missing out on the voice acting and new soundtrack.
Can I just add I'm not claiming I find the old game ugly. I think Secret is one of the most finely crafted games I've played (as are most of LeChuck's Revenge and the first four chapters of Curse). I think it's dated pretty well, but then again I never was much of a graphics person. I let my imagination do the trick, and to me the old pixelly Melee is one of the most immersive environments in any game, ever.
I have yet to play it but from what i've seen, the most annoying part is how robotic the voice acting sounds, due to everything being done in single lines because the game was built ontop of the original. And i hate guybrushes look. However, i'm sure i would learn to live with those flaws, given how beautiful everything else looks and sounds, and the fact that the game has Voice acting at all.
I would love to see a MI2:SE though. Or even just a rerelease of the original version. Please?
no it doesnt look beautiful friar. stanscoffins' friend doesnt think the graphics are ugly but he shouldnt have to compare them to the 20-year old graphics
that means they're bad or something
they're a huge improvement. that's how ugly they are.
no it doesnt look beautiful friar. stanscoffins' friend doesnt think the graphics are ugly but he shouldnt have to compare them to the 20-year old graphics
that means they're bad or something
they're a huge improvement. that's how ugly they are.
No, he does think the new graphic style is ugly. He just finds it preferable to the original graphics. That's still not saying they're any good. It's like saying Escape from Monkey Island has good graphics because it looks better than Pacman.
Horrible expressionless character models and backgrounds that look like plastic? Beutiful. I actually think it's dated the most out of the games. Melee and Scabb are still as immersive as they were in 1991. The only immersive place in Escape was Jambalaya, and that was supposed to be soulless.
The characters also looked like they had nothing to do with the background, as if they were just walking in front of a photo.
maybe you shouldnt play videogames if you hate them all
Maybe you shouldn't talk on forums if you hate discussion?
It may not come off this way, but I absolutely adore Secret, LeChuck's Revenge, Curse up to the end of Blood Island, and what we have of Tales. Hell, I even have a soft spot for Escape: the Jambalaya sequence is brilliant even if the rest of the game is subpar.
I just find it more enjoyable writing and reading opinions about where a game is flawed and how it can be improved (which promotes creativity and imagination) than reading and writing endless posts of "THIS WAS AMAZING! SO WAS THIS! SO WAS THIS!" But you clearly just want to read a board full of posts blindly praising the games.
Escape didn't look too bad at all, really. It was limited by the tech at the time but it wasn't ugly by any means, no more than Grim Fandango or Dark Forces: Jedi Knight/MOTS or any other game that came out at that time anyway. Actually, the graphics are the most like TMI's graphics out of the whole series. It was the interface and lack of ANY MOUSE CONTROLS WHATSOEVER that hurt it the most. Oh, also Monkey Kombat.
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i didn't REMEMBER dismissing anyone's opinions, but hey maybe i did?
i thought i was just talking about why disappointed people complain on forums more!
You don't need a point of comparison to say something looks ugly.
i think you've lost your point. or i have.
i get people complaining about the controls and the sprites/animations, but the painted backgrounds were really well done. very impressive, yet still pretty true to the original art.
Do I have to spell it out? The fact that newcomers to Monkey Island may prefer the new graphics to the old doesn't mean that they actually like the new art style. The people I know who are playing the Special Edition dislike the new art style, but find it infinitely preferable to playing a game where the screen's made up of pixels. That doesn't mean they don't think that the new character models look awful.
maybe they should find a forum somewhere to bitch about companies making games for them to play
God forbid people having opinions.
Rofl, this is exactly what I think about the special edition. I am people!!
Are you talking about the new art style or the original pixellated graphics? Because it's not illogical to imagine that people who didn't grow up on the old games may find a screen full of pixels unattractive. Either way, even if these people were to play with the old graphics, to do so would mean missing out on the voice acting and new soundtrack.
Can I just add I'm not claiming I find the old game ugly. I think Secret is one of the most finely crafted games I've played (as are most of LeChuck's Revenge and the first four chapters of Curse). I think it's dated pretty well, but then again I never was much of a graphics person. I let my imagination do the trick, and to me the old pixelly Melee is one of the most immersive environments in any game, ever.
I would love to see a MI2:SE though. Or even just a rerelease of the original version. Please?
that means they're bad or something
they're a huge improvement. that's how ugly they are.
No, he does think the new graphic style is ugly. He just finds it preferable to the original graphics. That's still not saying they're any good. It's like saying Escape from Monkey Island has good graphics because it looks better than Pacman.
Horrible expressionless character models and backgrounds that look like plastic? Beutiful. I actually think it's dated the most out of the games. Melee and Scabb are still as immersive as they were in 1991. The only immersive place in Escape was Jambalaya, and that was supposed to be soulless.
The characters also looked like they had nothing to do with the background, as if they were just walking in front of a photo.
Maybe you shouldn't talk on forums if you hate discussion?
It may not come off this way, but I absolutely adore Secret, LeChuck's Revenge, Curse up to the end of Blood Island, and what we have of Tales. Hell, I even have a soft spot for Escape: the Jambalaya sequence is brilliant even if the rest of the game is subpar.
I just find it more enjoyable writing and reading opinions about where a game is flawed and how it can be improved (which promotes creativity and imagination) than reading and writing endless posts of "THIS WAS AMAZING! SO WAS THIS! SO WAS THIS!" But you clearly just want to read a board full of posts blindly praising the games.