Is LeChuck really Guybrush's brother?
or was that all just part of his evil voodoo spell or just a lie at the end of MI2?
What's the official word on this?
What's the official word on this?
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It was all a hallucination. (see MI3)
They're probably not brothers.
Or they might not be brothers, but that's a bit boring.
agree
i think it's GREAT if they're just two enemy pirates who are unrelated. i hate the Lost/star wars storyline syndrome when it turns out all the main characters are needlessly related to each other, even though it serves no purpose or helps the story in anyway (darth vader made c3p0? really? how does that help the story AT ALL??) . it doesnt make it feel more intense or anything to me, it just feels cliche`. relations for relations sake.
not every conflict has to have a family aspect to it to make it an epic conflict.
imo
Come to think of it, wasn't it really just another parody of Darth Vader's "Luke, I am your father!"? Monkey Island does to Lucasart what the Simpsons do to FOX. ("It belongs in a museum!" "Im selling these fine leather jackets..." "*Balancing Murray's and Santino's skulls to measure their weight.*")
In CMI they wrote the whole "Guybrush and LeChuck are brothers and MI is all really a fantasy in the mind of a child" plot away as just a spell LeChuck put over Guybrush as a means to lure Guybrush into LeChuck's Carnival of the Dammed. There are really two canons, the Ron Gilbert canon and post-MI2 canon. I think you'll find the "official word" from LucasArts and Telltale is that the post-MI2 canon applies. The player really has to make a choice for which they believe. I personally believe in the post-MI2 canon set up in CMI. I thought the ending for MI2 was stupid and just trying to get a few chuckles by parodying Star Wars. However there are legions of MI2 fans who think otherwise, and believe that one day Ron Gilbert will return and lead them to the promised land.
Good luck with that one guys
Sounds like Morgan saying "You need to get on Flotsam.. without stepping foot on Flotsam."
"Hey, that sounds like a puzzle! See? Your warming up to my schtick."
So, they're not really brothers, but Guybrush believed it for a while - that goes pretty well with what Ron Gilbert said, don't you think?
Imagine if the final battle of Curse, rather than use-pepper-on-LeChuck, was a psychological battle: LeChuck trying to drag Guybrush back into the real world, Guybrush holding on for dear life to his determination that the pirate world is real. It could end with Guybrush defeating LeChuck, and with him his doubts. Marrying Elaine could almost be like tying himself to this world. As in him deciding that, real or fantasy, he's going to stick with this life because it's real to him. A little like the ending of the original British Life On Mars,
I might actually be able to live with that, though I could never imagine the whole SMI and MI2 plots just being a kid's dream.
Well, the ending of MI2 implies that "Chuckie" was sent by his parents to get Guybrush back. Naturally, little Guybrush would see this as a threat, and so he'd turn his brother into the Ghost/Zombie Pirate LeChuck.
But they don't even have to say it's one or the other: just leave it ambiguous. As in have Guybrush choose his piratey world regardless of whether or not it's actually real.
So LeChuck and Guybrush are contemplating doing things with their own sister? A little sick.
guybrush and lechuck are not brothers.
guybrush's parents' skeletons are not lying beneath the carnival of the damned.
guybrush is not a boy imagining that he is a pirate.
if ron gilbert intended for there to be any ambiguity, little lechuck wouldn't have played to the camera and there would not have been a scene of elaine waiting for guybrush.
Because in Arthurian legend, Elaine's sister is "Morgan Le Fay."
I sure hope not, the whole Hermit Toothrot is her grandfather scenario didn't exactly please fans in general. I think that it's best if this game avoid any twists that deal with characters being related.
I like to think that both Guybrush and LeChuck get trapped in Big Whoop. Remember Guybrush was trying to use Big Whoop to escape from LeChuck into another world, maybe this world was where his Parents didn't leave him (or die) and he's still a boy. Only LeChuck catches up to him and when the chest smashes they both slowly get pulled into this other reality and LeChuck becomes Guybrush's big brother Chuckie.
The whole of the last sequence is therefore the transition into the new world where their old and new identies get mixed up. So for a while LeChuck becomes Guybrush's brother but is still trying to get his revenge for the events in MI1. Then when Guybrush defeats him he mostly turns into Chuckie (when he pulls off his mask) but not completely as he asks for Guybrush to sow the leg back on the doll. The game therefore ends with them both transforming into little Guybrush and chuckie and seeming to forget their former identities.
At least, that's how I made sense of it when I first played it. Of cause I doubt that's what Ron Gilbert had in mind.
Ron Gilbert's my father? Awesome!
At the end of MI2 you see Elaine looking down the hole and wondering whats taking guybrush so long. I wonder how long she waited around till she gave up and left?
nah jk
In fact the ending of MI2 were Le Chuck/Guybrush were revealed as brothers was supposed to be the ending for MI1 but Ron Gilbert was convinced by the others to hold on to it for a sequel.
Development Trivia of Monkey Island 1 & 2, also check the next page in each article for comments from creators of MI 1 & 2.
http://www.mixnmojo.com/features/read.php?article=monkeyisland2lechucksrevenge&page=6
http://www.mixnmojo.com/features/read.php?article=thesecretofmonkeyisland&page=5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bpWoGn-tbo
There's a lot of things that point that. Dreams are usually a juxtaposition of things you lived lately and ideas you have.
Well, if Guybrush was in Dinky Island why the underground tunnels look like those under Ron Roger's house? Why the carnival seems to be in Booty Island? Why you can go to Melee Island's alley? Because it's a dream! You see your lost parents just like in GB previous dream when... he hit his head! Just the same that happened when he fell with Big Whoop on his hand!
Maybe Big Whoop is the portal do dreams' land, and Lechuck used that opportunity to get in Guybrush head and manipulate his ideas. But he is in no way his brother.