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Sam and Max

IrishmileIrishmile
edited October 2009 in Tales of Monkey Island
I really hope they are hidden in Tales of monkey Island somewhere.... I have not seen them yet but it is a tradition and since TTG makes the S&M games it should be ok for them to throw them in.
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  • Rather DashingRather Dashing
    edited October 2009
    They can show up in the courtroom! "He stole our third season!"

    ...

    Too much?
  • IrishmileIrishmile
    edited October 2009
    LOL I actually think that idea is brilliant
  • JedExodusJedExodus
    edited October 2009
    In the Monkey Island SE I noticed that the Sam & Max tiki was substitued for a DOTT one in the new art
  • SHODANFreemanSHODANFreeman
    edited October 2009
    JedExodus wrote: »
    In the Monkey Island SE I noticed that the Sam & Max tiki was substitued for a DOTT one in the new art

    That's because Lucasarts don't have the rights to Sam and Max.
  • IcedhopeIcedhope
    edited October 2009
    JedExodus wrote: »
    In the Monkey Island SE I noticed that the Sam & Max tiki was substitued for a DOTT one in the new art

    But if you switch it over, they're there.
  • dvibedvibe
    edited October 2009
    The leviathan says "little buddy"
    to Guybrush at least.. :)
  • plrichardplrichard
    edited October 2009
    Icedhope wrote: »
    But if you switch it over, they're there.

    Yeah but that is probably because that was the original art and it's completely unchanged.
  • NickTTGNickTTG Telltale Alumni
    edited October 2009
    there's a sam and max visual reference in 103. it was still there last i looked. kinda subtle and you had to play season 2 to get it
  • jp-30jp-30
    edited October 2009
    Clamshell?
  • NickTTGNickTTG Telltale Alumni
    edited October 2009
    hey! ya. wasn't sure if it was too subtle
  • MaxilyahMaxilyah
    edited October 2009
    I noticed the shell, too. They should have put Max's ears on it. XD
  • Secret FawfulSecret Fawful
    edited October 2009
    NickTTG wrote: »
    there's a sam and max visual reference in 103. it was still there last i looked. kinda subtle and you had to play season 2 to get it

    Yeah well....subtle is bad.
  • SpadgeSpadge
    edited October 2009
    Hehe, cameo time? Maybe D'Oro could play with a couple of Action Figurines of Sam or Max. Or maybe you can throw in a voodoo doll somewhere. Well, maybe not.
  • WoodsyblueWoodsyblue
    edited October 2009
    And the rat in 101 was Jimmy, or at least the same model as him.
  • IrishmileIrishmile
    edited October 2009
    I was hoping the S&M reference would be more like an actual image of them.
  • Lennie MelvinLennie Melvin
    edited October 2009
    Wait! So the clamshell was a Sam and Max reference? I htought it was just a subtle concidence...
  • Chris1Chris1
    edited October 2009
    Rather Dashing wrote: »
    They can show up in the courtroom! "He stole our third season!"

    ...

    Too much?

    That would be hilarious!
    But they would have to hire Sam's Voice Actor just for that one line, and we all know that Sam & Max Season 3 is coming next...
  • IrishmileIrishmile
    edited October 2009
    Chris1 wrote: »
    we all know that Sam & Max Season 3 is coming next...

    Awe man! spoilers!
  • tbm1986tbm1986
    edited October 2009
    The S&M references in 1&2 were in pictoral form and Guybrush could make a comment. To bring them into the courtroom, while for me would be awesome, doesn't follow on too nicely (especially as there's no reference to them at all in CMI and EMI).
  • tbm1986tbm1986
    edited October 2009
    I'm sure they could slip in a few MI lines into a recording session for one of the S&M episodes if TT wished to go down that route.
  • ShwooShwoo
    edited October 2009
    There are Sam & Max references in the later two Monkey island games. In Curse, one of the shapes the stage lights in the theatre can make is Max's head. And the emblem of Big Whoop is a Max and Crossbones.

    Maybe it should've been called the Curse of Max's Terrifying Head.

    And in Escape, one of the possible aliases for Pegnose Pete is Sam N. Max. I don't know what that means because I haven't played it, but that's what all the websites say.
  • tbm1986tbm1986
    edited October 2009
    Shwoo wrote: »
    There are Sam & Max references in the later two Monkey island games. In Curse, one of the shapes the stage lights in the theatre can make is Max's head. And the emblem of Big Whoop is a Max and Crossbones.

    Maybe it should've been called the Curse of Max's Terrifying Head.

    And in Escape, one of the possible aliases for Pegnose Pete is Sam N. Max. I don't know what that means because I haven't played it, but that's what all the websites say.

    I can't believe I forgot about the stage lights in the Puerto Pollo Theatre! *holds head in shame*

    I guess I haven't played EMI the hundred times required to get Sam N. Max on
    Dead-Eye Dave's Filomatic
    . 20 times is enough for anyone in 10 years.


    EDIT: Max is on one of the faces of the aforementioned puzzle in EMI! Plz forget I said anything about Sam & Max only cropping up in the first two games. *hides*
  • FuryFury
    edited October 2009
    Theres subtle references. Like in 102, "Who would hide a piece of paper inside a toy?"

    Reference to chariots of the dogs right there.
  • moo535moo535
    edited October 2009
    that's just as easily an inside joke between two of the puzzle programmers.
  • FuryFury
    edited October 2009
    It was a reference
  • IcedhopeIcedhope
    edited October 2009
    tbm1986 wrote: »
    The S&M references in 1&2 were in pictoral form and Guybrush could make a comment. To bring them into the courtroom, while for me would be awesome, doesn't follow on too nicely (especially as there's no reference to them at all in CMI and EMI).

    I think thats because Steve Purcell didn't work on the games..he was the one who usually threw them in there.
  • WoodsyblueWoodsyblue
    edited October 2009
    Icedhope wrote: »
    I think thats because Steve Purcell didn't work on the games..he was the one who usually threw them in there.

    It's already been established that they were in the games, keep reading.
  • puzzleboxpuzzlebox Telltale Alumni
    edited October 2009
    tbm1986 wrote: »
    The S&M references in 1&2 were in pictoral form and Guybrush could make a comment.

    What/where were they? I either missed them or completely forgot :)

    Edit: Ooh, Max was one of the idols near the giant monkey head in SMI, right?
  • tbm1986tbm1986
    edited October 2009
    puzzlebox wrote: »
    What/where were they? I either missed them or completely forgot :)

    Edit: Ooh, Max was one of the idols near the giant monkey head in SMI, right?

    Correct. The other one was at the dress end of the costume shop in MI2.
  • jortlabanjortlaban
    edited October 2009
    The Sam & Max reference in SoMI has been removed, so my guess is that an actual direct graphical reference won't be showing up in any episode.
  • doggansdoggans
    edited October 2009
    jortlaban wrote: »
    The Sam & Max reference in SoMI has been removed, so my guess is that an actual direct graphical reference won't be showing up in any episode.

    It was removed because LucasArts doesn't have the Sam and Max rights anymore. Telltale, on the other hand...
  • EznyEzny
    edited October 2009
    Rather Dashing wrote: »
    They can show up in the courtroom! "He stole our third season!"

    ...

    Too much?

    That would be great!




    I also noticed the DotT image cover the S&M image in MI SE. Noticed the clamshell too. And yeah I'm pretty sure that was also the same rat model in 101 as in the S&M games. [not HTR of course]
  • LittleBuddyLittleBuddy
    edited October 2009
    jortlaban wrote: »
    The Sam & Max reference in SoMI has been removed, so my guess is that an actual direct graphical reference won't be showing up in any episode.

    It's been removed because Telltale now holds the rights to Sam & Max, so if Lucasarts were to use them they'd have to pay. And since they were redrawing everything anyways, they just decided to change it with one of their own franchises.
  • IcedhopeIcedhope
    edited October 2009
    Woodsyblue wrote: »
    It's already been established that they were in the games, keep reading.


    I know where they are, and I meant in curse and escape.
  • FealiksFealiks
    edited October 2009
    Icedhope wrote: »
    I know where they are, and I meant in curse and escape.

    It's already been established that they were in those games.

    Also, what rat are people talking about in chapter 1?
  • IrishmileIrishmile
    edited October 2009
    in the voodoo shack?
  • WoodsyblueWoodsyblue
    edited October 2009
    Fealiks wrote: »
    It's already been established that they were in those games.

    Also, what rat are people talking about in chapter 1?

    The one in De Singe's office.
  • LuigiHannLuigiHann
    edited October 2009
    Maxilyah wrote: »
    I noticed the shell, too. They should have put Max's ears on it. XD

    Ha, I agree. A max-shaped clam complete with ears would be the perfect level of reference.

    And I sort of wish that in the SoMI SE that they could have just "traced" the little sam&max idol, smoothed it out, without adding any new detail, like they did for the other idols. It would probably actually end up looking less like Sam and Max, but the subtle reference would still be intact. The Purple Tentacle idol, while perfectly posed, stands out a bit too much.
  • IrishmileIrishmile
    edited October 2009
    I was sad they took out Sam and Max but Purple Tentacle was a good substitute.
  • Rather DashingRather Dashing
    edited October 2009
    LuigiHann wrote: »
    Ha, I agree. A max-shaped clam complete with ears would be the perfect level of reference.
    It DOES have Max ears.
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