Why doesn't Morgan have the pox?

edited November 2009 in Tales of Monkey Island
If this has been discussed before, I'm sorry, but "pox" is apparently too short a word for the search to find.
Why haven't Morgan or De Singe contracted the pox? They've both been exposed to Guybrush's cursed hand for long periods of time, you'd think they'd be sick by now. Even Winslow finally caught it; is it literally a disease that only affects pirates?
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  • edited October 2009
    its something I wondered as well.
  • edited October 2009
    Maybe it's not contagious.

    That way you could only get it from the airborne virus. If Morgan wasn't in the Gulf Of Melange when the virus was first released then she may have been safe from it.
  • edited October 2009
    Or some people have more of a delay. Winslow didn't get it till this episode. Or maybe because they're not pirates. (Scientist and pirate hunter.) While the glass blower was formally a pirate.

    P.S. What would Do'ro be like with the pox?...
  • edited October 2009
    I'd agree. Don't they mention it somewhere? That this is a desease that only pirates can get?
    I cannot remember, I'm not so observant
  • edited October 2009
    If the pox does affect only the pirates (So Elaine is officially a pirate? Good to know), and we know it warps their minds then it seems LeChuck might be building himself an undead pirate armada. Maybe Guybrush will have to join forces with De Singe and Morgan to bring down LeChuck. And the Voodoo Lady, probably. (Hey, weren't we supposed to learn her true name this season? I thought for sure De Cava would have been the one to reveal it.)

    P.S. I mean the Voodoo Lady will help him bring down LeChuck, not that Guybrush would have to fight the Voodoo Lady and LeChuck. My bad.
  • WillWill Telltale Alumni
    edited October 2009
    Lena_P wrote: »
    Hey, weren't we supposed to learn her true name this season?

    Were we? When did that come up? (I honestly don't know if we will or not, this is just the first I have heard of it. It's hard to keep track of everything!)
  • edited October 2009
    What if her real name was Lady Voodoo?
  • edited October 2009
    Will wrote: »
    Were we? When did that come up? (I honestly don't know if we will or not, this is just the first I have heard of it. It's hard to keep track of everything!)

    Hmm, now that I look, I can't find where I saw that. I could've sworn I read it in the private pirate forum ... eh, one less thing for you guys to worry about.
    Irishmile wrote: »
    What if her real name was Lady Voodoo?

    Lady Voodoo, Comtesse des Loas? I never realized she was a member of the peerage, or that the Caribbean had a peerage.
  • edited October 2009
    Will wrote: »
    Were we? When did that come up? (I honestly don't know if we will or not, this is just the first I have heard of it. It's hard to keep track of everything!)

    I can't remember there has been a promise or something that her name would be revealed. I didn't expect De Cava to give it away either.

    One little funny thing I noticed in that context though:
    When asked what her name is in TMI, she replies that "names have power" whereas in CMI, which I recently played again, she replies to the same question with "names have little importance". :D

    She also said in CMI that she is known under different names on different islands - now THAT revelation is going to be interesting...
  • edited October 2009
    In LeChuck's Revenge, there was a clue in then Voodoo book to her name. I think it hinted her name was Helen, but I could be remembering it wrong.
  • edited October 2009
    Mermaid wrote: »
    ...................
    When asked what her name is in TMI, she replies that "names have power" whereas in CMI, which I recently played again, she replies to the same question with "names have little importance". :D...........................


    A fortune teller that makes stuff up as she goes!? Say it isn't so..

    LOL well spotted
  • edited October 2009
    Yeah I've been wondering about Morgan (apparently) not having the pox. Maybe you're right about the theory that only pirates can catch it. Though I'm not sure if Elaine can really be referred to as a pirate. But she's not the governor anymore, is she?
    Mermaid wrote: »
    One little funny thing I noticed in that context though:
    When asked what her name is in TMI, she replies that "names have power" whereas in CMI, which I recently played again, she replies to the same question with "names have little importance". :D

    She also said in CMI that she is known under different names on different islands - now THAT revelation is going to be interesting...
    Yes, I remembered that, too, and thought it was pretty strange, especially the first of your discoveries. I was going to post about this somewhere, but you beat me to it. ;) Well, with the "names have little importance", she was making fun of him (though she wouldn't admit it).
    apenpaap wrote: »
    In LeChuck's Revenge, there was a clue in then Voodoo book to her name. I think it hinted her name was Helen, but I could be remembering it wrong.
    Huh?! I don't remember that at all! What kind of hint?
  • edited October 2009
    IIRC there was some reference to an "Auntie Helen" in the Voodoo book's description which seemed to be about the Voodoo Lady. I could very well have remembered that wrong though.
  • edited October 2009
    Hemlock McGee was an explorer(til his legs were cut off by DeSinge)trying to find the source of the winds. Was he also a pirate too? He said that he wasn't able to continue his work because of the loss of his legs.
  • edited October 2009
    Hemlock McGee was an explorer(til his legs were cut off by DeSinge)trying to find the source of the winds. Was he also a pirate too? He said that he wasn't able to continue his work because of the loss of his legs.

    So many questions! Are drunks automatically pirates?
    Mermaid wrote: »
    I can't remember there has been a promise or something that her name would be revealed. I didn't expect De Cava to give it away either.

    One little funny thing I noticed in that context though:
    When asked what her name is in TMI, she replies that "names have power" whereas in CMI, which I recently played again, she replies to the same question with "names have little importance". :D

    She also said in CMI that she is known under different names on different islands - now THAT revelation is going to be interesting...


    Actually in many cultures names were considered powerful and could be used to hold power over your. People would have a "real" or secret name that was not usually used or known by those outside of your family. The story of Rumplestilzken is an example of knowing someone's name and using that knowledge to manipulate them.
  • edited October 2009
    i think de singe has a cure for it.
  • edited October 2009
    I actually hadn't thought of that. Interesting idea.
  • edited October 2009
    I doubt that only pirates can catch it because it looks like the judge has the pox.
  • edited October 2009
    De Singe has a cure because he has the poxed hand. And he's working with Morgan and therefore she can't get the pox either.
  • jmmjmm
    edited October 2009
    maybe she has natural immunity or at least some sort of resistance.
    Or De Singe has an antidote and he gave it to Morgan (So she couldn't get infected while retrieving the hand)

    Or the Pox doesn't affect LeChuck and since LeChuck and Morgan are related... ummh what was that?

    Or...Telltale has a better idea and/or explanation and I'll wait for it
  • edited October 2009
    Geypi wrote: »
    De Singe has a cure because he has the poxed hand. And he's working with Morgan and therefore she can't get the pox either.

    The only cure is the sponge as the voodoo lady stated. And just because Morgan is working with Guybrush doesn't mean she won't get it. Actually, that would increase the chances of her getting it. Winslow was working with Guybrush and he still got it.
  • jmmjmm
    edited October 2009
    The only cure is the sponge as the voodoo lady stated. And just because Morgan is working with Guybrush doesn't mean she won't get it. Actually, that would increase the chances of her getting it. Winslow was working with Guybrush and he still got it.

    The Voodoo Lady is not all knowing and maybe there is another cure and she doesn't know about it.
    Or by some voodoo-related (or not) reason she doesn't want to disclose an alternative.

    But even if the only cure is the Sponge, that doesn't necessarily preclude that De Singe found a synthetic replacement (even by chance) through science.
  • edited October 2009
    The only cure is the sponge as the voodoo lady stated. And just because Morgan is working with Guybrush doesn't mean she won't get it. Actually, that would increase the chances of her getting it. Winslow was working with Guybrush and he still got it.

    De Singe is a doctor i bet he knows the cure.
  • edited October 2009
    Geypi wrote: »
    De Singe is a doctor i bet he knows the cure.

    Possible, but there has been evidence of that. He's making an elixir so I doubt he would want a cure to be made.
  • edited October 2009
    There must be a reason why he hasn't got it yet. Same with the voodoo lady!!
  • edited October 2009
    Geypi wrote: »
    There must be a reason why he hasn't got it yet. Same with the voodoo lady!!

    Maybe they do have it? I can't imagine Winslow catching the pox inside the Manatee's mouth; it's pretty damned possible he got it when he was still on Flotsam and the pox was spreading over the island, it probably just took a bit longer to show. And Elaine was there when the pox was released, so she would have been exposed before him.

    Personally, I wouldn't be surprised one bit if Morgan has it a bit herself, its still not too late for her to suddenly start showing signs of it. (I can imagine dropping Guybrush off for his trial and suddenly going green-faced and red eyed as soon as him and the sponge was taken away. One of those "whoops" moments?) As far as the whole "Pirates only disease" I can't imagine it, and besides (seeing as this thread is on Morgan and the pox), she might hunt them but she's pretty quick to consider herself a pirate too sometimes. "Mighty Pirates don't talk! We don't have time to!"
  • edited October 2009
    Maybe he has got it, it just isn't visible under the make-up.
  • edited October 2009
    apenpaap wrote: »
    Maybe he has got it, it just isn't visible under the make-up.

    If that's true, what does it say about Morgan? (Maybe she had to sell her boat to pay off her debt to Mary Kay!)
  • edited October 2009
    I think its just like any other disease. Some might get it and some not.

    Take for example the pig flu problem. You are all exposed to it, but not all of you are gonna get it.
  • edited October 2009
    Hmm, maybe she's the Voodoo Lady's daughter, and that's why she doesn't have the pox... somehow.
  • edited October 2009
    I think it was mentioned somewhere that only the pirates get it.
  • edited October 2009
    Mermaid wrote: »
    I can't remember there has been a promise or something that her name would be revealed. I didn't expect De Cava to give it away either.

    One little funny thing I noticed in that context though:
    When asked what her name is in TMI, she replies that "names have power" whereas in CMI, which I recently played again, she replies to the same question with "names have little importance". :D

    She also said in CMI that she is known under different names on different islands - now THAT revelation is going to be interesting...

    Maybe Voodoo Lady (TM) is just a franchise. When you buy your shop, they give you the basic history of Guybrush Threepwood, some creepy jars (for ambiance), and some tarot cards. Each island has their own Voodoo Lady who looks remarkably like the ones on other islands, thanks to the Voodoo Lady cosmetics and clothing line.
  • edited October 2009
    Matrinka wrote: »
    Maybe Voodoo Lady (TM) is just a franchise. When you buy your shop, they give you the basic history of Guybrush Threepwood, some creepy jars (for ambiance), and some tarot cards. Each island has their own Voodoo Lady who looks remarkably like the ones on other islands, thanks to the Voodoo Lady cosmetics and clothing line.

    That's the second best theory I've ever heard :D

    PS> So, you inherit your lover Coronado too?
  • edited October 2009
    There will probably be a classic Monkey Island twist to the sponge, just like there was with the "ghost zapping root beer" in SOMI... it'll turn out that ANY sponge will cure the pox and maybe De Singe and Morgan use sponges for their make-up or something like that...
  • edited October 2009
    Maybe if you're undead you don't get... meaning MORGAN IS AN UNDEAD PIRATE HUNTER!!!! Dun dun dun!
  • edited October 2009
    BinoX wrote: »
    There will probably be a classic Monkey Island twist to the sponge, just like there was with the "ghost zapping root beer" in SOMI... it'll turn out that ANY sponge will cure the pox and maybe De Singe and Morgan use sponges for their make-up or something like that...
    Now, THAT would be hilarious! :D I love that theory!
  • edited October 2009
    Matrinka wrote: »
    Maybe Voodoo Lady (TM) is just a franchise. When you buy your shop, they give you the basic history of Guybrush Threepwood, some creepy jars (for ambiance), and some tarot cards. Each island has their own Voodoo Lady who looks remarkably like the ones on other islands, thanks to the Voodoo Lady cosmetics and clothing line.

    Nah, She probably just has a bunch of identical sisters, like Nurse Joy or Officer Jenny.
  • edited October 2009
    She already had it when she was a kid.
  • edited October 2009
    I'd bet that she has it, but it hasn't had a chance to take her over yet.

    Most of the characters only show signs of the Pox when they get angry, and Morgan is too calm and disciplined to get angry...so far.
  • edited October 2009
    She would still be green.
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