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About the title of Episode 4 - spoilers

pilouuuupilouuuu
edited June 2010 in Tales of Monkey Island
Big spoilers ahead!
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Spoilers about the end of the game!
You've been warned!

It was a good design decision that the game is called The Trial and Execution of Guybrush Threepwood. At first Guybrush is under a trial and the comdenation would be to hang him if he was found to be guilty. Then Guybrush is set free and you feel relief about it.

My first reaction was to say, wow then the didn't of the episode was only half truth. But then we get the events of the end of the game and the execution is... (excuse the pun) executed! I must say it was a good twist and I was definitely surprised. I loved the storytelling in this episode. Probably the most dramatic of any Monkey Island game. What do you think about it? Were you surprised as well?

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  • Astro GnocciAstro Gnocci
    edited November 2009
    it's a bit hard to say i was surprised now, since it seems obvious afterwards, but it did catch me offguard, yeah.
    I sure suspected something was up, though... I just never bought into the voodoo lady thing and LeChuck's "revelation" made me all the more suspicious.
    When he arrived at the end i just went "okay, so what was he up to ?" and then "oh... yeah... Guess i should have seen that one coming".
  • MeemsMeems
    edited November 2009
    It was a very clever way of making the title relevant, yes.
  • ShaggEShaggE
    edited November 2009
    Astro Gnocci wrote: »
    and then "oh... yeah... Guess i should have seen that one coming".

    Likewise. I still can't get over just how well they executed that (no pun intended). Even after he mentioned "unholy matrimony", it still didn't click. I guess I wasn't being fully attentive. And then, boom, 'Brush-ka-bob, and I jumped a mile. :p That'll teach me to divide my attention.

    I'm glad it happened like that, though. It made the scene far more effective than it would have been had I been on guard.
  • Sir PantalonesSir Pantalones
    edited November 2009
    I dunno, really. As I approached the ending, as soon as a cutscene started, I immediately thought "so this is where he dies?".

    A BIT surprising with LeChuck just cutting away at him all of a sudden, maybe, but not all that unexpected.
  • wavefunctionwavefunction
    edited November 2009
    I was suspicous to LeChuck for 3 episodes, but when he came to save Elaine & Guybrush I found it funny, and LeChuck as part of good guys. Only thing that he knows about riddles and mind games helped him to save them. Then I lost every hope that LeChuck will go voodoo again. But I was wrong :)
  • pilouuuupilouuuu
    edited November 2009
    I was like OMG "unholy matrimony"! LeChuck was really pretending all this time! It was all the better because previously LeChuck "sacrificed" himself to release Guybrush from prison. I really believed at one moment that with his Pox gone he had turned to a good guy.

    As much as the title indicated I never thought Guybrush would be killed like that! I was expecting something along the lines of COMI.

    Well done, Telltale. To anyone who had any doubts here you showed that you can do drama as well as humour. Can't wait for some serious (hopefully detective) adventure.

    Now I'm expecting Episode 5 to be mind blowing! Epic really. How will they surpass this?
  • puzzleboxpuzzlebox Telltale Alumni
    edited November 2009
    pilouuuu wrote: »
    I was like OMG "unholy matrimony"! LeChuck was really pretending all this time!

    Haha, yeah... I was still reeling from that line and going "Wait, what??... hang on", when LeChuck turns around and stabs Guybrush in the guts - "WAIT, WHAT?!?!" I think I actually shouted "NO WAY" at that point. I am not the most perspicacious of creatures. :p
  • BeeKay84BeeKay84
    edited November 2009
    Same here. As soon as the charges had been dropped, I was convinced that the "execution" wasn't going to happen. As for LeChuck, I was totally suspicious about him all the time, but in the last scene, I totally didn't expect what was coming. I was like "Unholy matrimony...? WTF?!" And before I could even think about it, he shish-kebabbed (spelling?!) Guybrush, and my jaw went down like that: :eek: Really, I gasped at that scene!

    Gosh, Telltale sure know how to do their stuff...
  • ShwooShwoo
    edited November 2009
    I was sure he was going to die through the whole game. Even when he was cleared of all charges, I wondered if more would be brought up somehow.

    I knew where the end of the game was because Telltale always have final puzzles like that - the only exception I can think of right now is Abe Lincoln Must Die - and when LeChuck showed up, I paused the game and wondered in the notes I was taking whether LeChuck was going to turn out to be evil and kill Guybrush and fulfil the title.

    So I guess I wasn't really taken by surprise. Though that wasn't an execution. More murder.
  • WoodsyblueWoodsyblue
    edited November 2009
    I find it hilarious that everyone (well, a lot of people) on the forums were convinced Guybrush where going to die. Then, when he did die, everyone (well, a lot of people) on the forums were completely surprised by his death. Well done Telltale.
  • Debbie82Debbie82
    edited June 2010
    Well, I hate to bring it back, but from the moment that LeChuck said that getting out was "the only way to win Elaine's hand in unholy matrimony", I just knew what was coming before he took the words "Unholy THIS!" from Chapter 1 out of Guybrush's mouth and impales him! Oh, and I noticed that there was no blood when Guybrush is impaled. Reminds me of when Sonic is impaled in the 2006 "Sonic the Hedgehog" game! Weird! Guess Telltale didn't call this game "The Trial and Execution of Guybrush Threepwood" for nothing!
  • HaydenHayden
    edited June 2010
    I suspected LeChuck all throughout the Season up until Trial and Execution, which was when I actually became convinced that he had switched sides and was no longer evil. It really was brilliant work from Telltale, to convince almost everyone that LeChuck had changed when, in reality, he hadn't changed at all.

    I was actually adamant that LeChuck was still evil, to the point where I was even turning to youtube videos for in-game evidence that proved he wasn't on Guybvrush and Elaine's side, but towards the middle of chapter 4 even I thought that he was no longer an antagonist. How wrong I was. It truly was some great characterization and manipulation on Telltale's part.
  • MermaidMermaid
    edited June 2010
    I liked the way they were fooling us, too. I guess everyone was wondering why they would give away what was going to happen in that episode by naming it that way.

    I was surprised when I was able to free Guybrush from the charges and he was free to go, but at the same moment I was so busy thinking about what to do next (Elaine furiously running around, the shocking LeChuck-Voodoo Lady revelation) I didn't waste a single thought about the "execution" part anymore. Add DeSinge's final appearance and his distracting explanations about his plans and it's no wonder that we were completely taken aback by Guybrush's sudden death in the very end.
  • Gman5852Gman5852
    edited June 2010
    Shwoo wrote: »
    I knew where the end of the game was because Telltale always have final puzzles like that - the only exception I can think of right now is Abe Lincoln Must Die

    if i remember right, tales chapter 2 allowed you to roam freely for the final puzzle too.
    also i also was reacting to unholy matromony before UNHOLY THIS happened.
  • GaryCXJkGaryCXJk
    edited June 2010
    Didn't make that line less epic though.

    Crowning moment of awesome indeed.

    And yeah, the reason for this huge bump was actually?
  • Debbie82Debbie82
    edited June 2010
    GaryCXJk wrote: »
    Didn't make that line less epic though.

    Crowning moment of awesome indeed.

    And yeah, the reason for this huge bump was actually?

    Well, I just thought that I would share my info about the title now that I saw the YouTube videos for ToMI Chapter 4.

    Also, the guy bumped up the "Elaine's Accent" topic which was nearly a year old.
  • VeronicanPlayVeronicanPlay
    edited June 2010
    No matter how old, Monkey Island is still interesting to talk about.

    All the puzzles and plot was making me forget about the Execution part, so it took me by surprise when it happened. Now it's even one of the reasons that it's my favourite chapter.
    It was done so well that I actually had tears in my eyes, no word of a lie.
    And it has nothing to do with girls being soft. :p
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