I'm worried about Chapter 5...

(Warning: Spoilers for Monkey Island 1-4 and minor spoilers for Tales ahead)

So far, I really love Tales of Monkey Island. Every chapter has been better then the last one, yet I'm worried about Rise of the Pirate God. My reason for this is that, IMO, each of the other four Monkey Island games had an ending that was really bad, either gameplaywise or storywise or both. Secret had some really funny dialogue in the last chapter, but the battle against LeChuck was way too easy. Though Revenge had a pretty good puzzle with creating the Voodoo doll, it really screwed up the story, which luckily got retconned in Curse. Curse has a pretty neat puzzle were you have to make the hangover remedy, but then suddenly cuts to Guybrush on the rollercoaster (it really feels a puzzle or cutscene is missing here), and another poor and easy final battle, with a really short cutscene following it. And in Escape, as if Monkey Kombat wasn't bad enough, it had illogical Monkey Kombat between the Giant Monkey Head and brainwashed LeChuck.

Anyway, I hope I'm wrong about this, and that Tales will break this pattern.

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  • edited November 2009
    It will end fine.

    Both Sam and Max seasons had great endings; I wouldn't worry about it.
  • edited November 2009
    apenpaap wrote: »
    Curse has a pretty neat puzzle were you have to make the hangover remedy, but then suddenly cuts to Guybrush on the rollercoaster (it really feels a puzzle or cutscene is missing here),

    http://www.worldofmi.com/features/trivia/trivia.php?game=MI3&s=1
    MI3trivia-missing.jpg
  • edited November 2009
    apenpaap wrote: »
    Though Revenge had a pretty good puzzle with creating the Voodoo doll, it really screwed up the story, which luckily got retconned in Curse.
    Some may disagree. :)
  • edited November 2009
    Some may disagree. :)

    Obviously, hence why the entire rant-thingie is my opinion.
  • edited November 2009
    I'm not sure MI2 really messed with the story. If we are to believe what we're told (my old History tutor would go on a rant at this point) then there was always supposed to be an MI3. They left the door pretty open...
    I liked the ending for MI1; it was a nice end to the story. I didn't feel like I had to spend 12 hours in a darkened room with my eyes bleeding from stress at not getting how to finish the game for it to end well.
    MI3, I can see what you mean. MI4 didn't exist, are you feeling well dear? :p

    I think TTG are quite good with endings, and they've set themselves up well.
  • edited November 2009
    Eduardo wrote: »

    i did not know that. now that explains the whole last scene.
  • edited November 2009
    the final chapter in MI2 actually begins when you get to dinky island. A lot of people misremember a whole new chapter that begins after you fall to the dark room.
  • edited November 2009
    The end sequence of 1,2 and 3 were pretty annoying due to you being yanked in and out of rooms all the time.
    TTG have shown themselves to be pretty bright people overall. The already shown they can do better. Observe the intro fight puzzle with Morgan in episode 2. That is some good game design right there. It feels dynamic and there are no stupid timers.
  • edited November 2009
    For some reason, I'd imagine Chapter 5 being on Flotsam Island still, but an Underworld version, red sky, buildings on fire/destroyed, ex-citizens who died on Flotsam Island walking around instead.
  • edited November 2009
    apenpaap wrote: »
    And in Escape, as if Monkey Kombat wasn't bad enough, it had illogical Monkey Kombat between the Giant Monkey Head and brainwashed LeChuck.

    I never had any more trouble with Monkey Kombat than I did with Insult Swordfighting. In fact, I probably had even less trouble with it, because it forced me to make a spreadsheet to keep track of what I knew, where Insult Swordfighting made me either print off a list of insults and comebacks and cross off which ones I had (which I didn't do) or try not only to remember which insults and comebacks I had, but also to remember if I was remembering having them currently or in a previous play-through.

    But that's all beside my point.

    I don't see what's so illogical about the final battle (other than that the combatants were a monkey robot whose head looked nothing like the Giant Monkey Head and a statue possessed by LeChuck). It was already established that the language of the Ultimate Insult was the primal language, monkey jabber, so it makes sense that Monkey Kombat would be the Ultimate Insult version of Insult Swordfighting, and we'd already learned in the jungles that when you tie, the monkeys will get frustrated and beat on their own head. To me, the logic behind it seems as good as any other puzzle.

    But then, while Escape isn't exactly my favorite Monkey Island, I don't despise it as much as most people do.
  • edited November 2009
    Some may disagree. :)

    Objection!
  • edited November 2009
    Ash735 wrote: »
    For some reason, I'd imagine Chapter 5 being on Flotsam Island still, but an Underworld version, red sky, buildings on fire/destroyed, ex-citizens who died on Flotsam Island walking around instead.
    That'd be so awesome.

    But wouldn't happen :mad:

    I'm still hoping we'll get to Monkey Island at some point, we always do :D
  • edited November 2009
    Objection!

    Objection What?!
  • edited November 2009
    der_ketzer wrote: »
    Objection What?!

    Objection, Your Honor...? :rolleyes:
  • edited November 2009
    der_ketzer wrote: »
    Objection What?!
    Objection him!
  • edited November 2009
    Objection him!

    Objection overruled.

    Please continue...
  • edited November 2009
    Objection overruled.

    Please continue...
    Objection THIS!
  • edited November 2009
    cool story bro.
  • edited November 2009
    Feed 'im to the jungle beast!
  • edited November 2009
    So yeah, I'm worried about Chapter 6. When will we see it?
  • edited November 2009
    So yeah, I'm worried about Chapter 6. When will we see it?
    When... it's... done. In other words, never...

    Unless you count the inevitable Monkey Island 201 as Chapter 6. What's New Beelzebub? is, after all, Episode 11 of Sam & Max.
  • edited November 2009
    Mike Haley wrote: »
    Unless you count the inevitable Monkey Island 201 as Chapter 6.


    Praise be to the Pirate God if this happens
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