The official Chapter 5 reviews topic
Right, let's keep all the press reviews of chapter 5 in this topic
First of all: http://talesofmi.net/
First of all: http://talesofmi.net/
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Hope that this has to do with the review code and the approach of the reviewer... :rolleyes:
So you're right. It also has a lot to do with the review code, which is "a little rough". And incomplete, mind you.
Edit: Here it is: http://www.mixnmojo.com/features/read.php?article=tmi5
I'll probably go back and read them after I've finished the game though, to see how they compare to my thoughts and whatnot.
I'm guessing that, this far in, it's probably just a review on what worked and didn't work in the game, probably aimed squarely at developers, or designed to spark discussion.
Episode 3 in particular gives me hope that they're really starting to get it. Keep it up guys, I can't wait to get my hooks into this last episiode.
I've been trying to figure out what it is you like so much about Leviathan. You said that it mixed stories and puzzles very well, and I countered by saying you couldn't adapt the face puzzle into a novel, hence it not being crucial to the story.
What's made sense to me so far is that you like the parts where, say, Morgan is disappointed by Guybrush's performance the first time he attempts the puzzle. Is that what you meant? (I had another example that I can not think of right now.)
Okay, I have a feeling this is going to be a long one.
Imagine a film. Indiana Jones and the Search for the Random Thing. Whatever. Indy has to find this random thing but in order to find the random thing, he first has to collect a whole bunch of random artifacts to figure out the thing's location.
If this film was done like The Trial and Execution of Guybrush Threepwood (particularly thinking about the second half), then there would be a bunch of story setting up the Quest For The Thing at the start, then Indy would go from place to place collecting up all the artifacts - the film would basically be a series of artifact collecting set pieces which, while entertaining, do not really contribute much to the over-arching story, it would be like one big long diversion until it gets to the end, when the real story about the Random Thing and any associated character development would happen.
If the film was instead done more like Lair of the Leviathan (particularly thinking about the section about joining the brotherhood and escaping the manatee) then he'd still have to go around collecting these artifacts, sure, he'd still have to do a bunch of arbitrary stuff which isn't directly concerned with the Random Thing...
(To pause and clarify for a moment: while the artifacts themselves are used to find the Random Thing, so are important in that sense, there's nothing special about them in the grand scheme of things: they could be completely different artifacts found in different ways, and the main plot about 'finding a bunch of stuff that leads you to the Thing' would stay the same)
...ahem. As I was saying, in the Leviathany version of the film, Indy would still have to do a bunch of arbitrary stuff which isn't directly concerned with the Random Thing. BUT there would be story elements woven into it in a much cleverer manner. Certain events during the collection of the artifacts would affect Indy's relationships with the supporting characters, and that may play into the way the plot ties up later on (In Leviathan I'm particularly thinking about his shifting interactions with Morgan and Murray throughout this section.) So instead of just feeling like one big long diversion, the hunt for the artifacts actually provides backdrop to all sorts of important stuff that directly plays into How It All Turns Out.
My main (but not my only) gripe with Episode 4 is that there is a long stretch of the episode which contains no plot or character development at all, but is just completing a voodoo shopping list. The story just -stops- while you walk around collecting these bits. In Episode 3, even when doing 'shopping list' type things like collecting faces, there's a whole lot of character stuff going on which does absolute wonders for the pacing.
Or contrast with the first chapter of Monkey Island 2, which is also a Voodoo shopping list and could have been a rather stalling start to the game - but it does a fine job of gradually adding more and more reasons to dislike Largo, as the chapter goes on, introducing this new character and providing you with more and more motives to voodoo him out of town until the climactic moment when it finally happens.
That make sense?
It did to me (by the time I finally got to the end
I'm avoiding reviews until after I've played. Concept art is one thing, blabbermouth-y reviewers are quite another.
[Heavy Spoilers Inside!]
http://plaza.fi/edome/arvostelut/tales-of-monkey-island-episode-5-rise-of-the-pirate-god
DONT LOOK! Some ass hole put a load of spoilers in that one! DONT LOOK!:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
GamesPoint's Review
http://www.gamespoint.net/?p=184
Dude...hes a reviewer. He's supposed to spoil.
Referring to spoilers within article. Don't reveal if you don't want spoilers.
I was eh... enthrilled.
Hey, some people are very sensitive bout that sorta thing.
http://www.scummbar.com/tx/games/tmi/review5/
... no spoilers, unless you're oversensitive. (And I agree with JP about the pacing issues caused by the puzzles -- really the only detractor from the game.)
Zeitgeist Game Review:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29fCTCaWcZg
http://www.avault.com/reviews/pc/tales-monkey-island-chapter-5-rise-pirate-god-pc-review/
(Although, the one thing I do agree with is that leaving out part of the final cut scene for reviewers was a superbly bad idea.)
I agree. I still haven't seen the full ending.
Be careful with all the reviews, i recommend this time beat the game first:)
http://www.zeitgeistgamereview.com/?p=686
I'm a personal fan of that review ;-)
Big surprise.
A leak yesterday? What was it? Without spoilers I mean lol..just, what kind of a leak?
It was screenshots and stuff I think. I didn't see them but only read the topic after they were removed. The guy was a real jerk to do it though.
http://hierohero.com/2009/12/tales-of-monkey-island-rise-of-the-pirate-god-review
Oh well, maybe all the reviewers are wrong or I disagree with them.
That means we did a good job yesterday.