Elaine and Guybrush kissing? Chapter 5
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I was just wondering why we never see Elaine and Guybrush kiss? I mean, if my lover was to return from the dead and I thought I would never see him/her again, than a big kiss is the first thing to do! Same thing with chapter 2 etc.
Does Telltale think we are 5 years old or something?
Or do they want to avoid the "juicy" romantic thing in the whole narrative?
It kinda made me miss something in the whole ending on the boat at the end of chapter 5... I was just a simple hug and that was it!
Do people share my thoughts or am I just making too much fuzz about this?
I was just wondering why we never see Elaine and Guybrush kiss? I mean, if my lover was to return from the dead and I thought I would never see him/her again, than a big kiss is the first thing to do! Same thing with chapter 2 etc.
Does Telltale think we are 5 years old or something?
Or do they want to avoid the "juicy" romantic thing in the whole narrative?It kinda made me miss something in the whole ending on the boat at the end of chapter 5... I was just a simple hug and that was it!
Do people share my thoughts or am I just making too much fuzz about this?
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I believe that the ending sequence it's a bit rush.... like the CMI ending.
That's a pity, because it don't satisfy you.
No kiss, a short hug and suddenly the credits. All too quick. And more questions to answer than joyful moments.
I hope in a newer version with a slightly longer ending... it will be ok also with only a longer hug. But I know it will never happen.
There have been a couple of people in here mentioning this and I guess we all think it's kind a strange that we've never seen them kiss before.
I don't think a simple kiss would spoil the 5-year-old-players of this game, after all, Anemone also kisses Guybrush briefly in Siege, so my guess is it's either the lack of time for animation, or, as you suggested, trying to not let the romance become too "juicy".
Or Elaine simply avoids kissing Guybrush too often because he becomes aroused too quickly.
We already know that Guybrush can handle Elaine in Fishnets, ...and Elaine tied up, ...Telltale have actually put a more vivid image of their sex life into our minds through comments! I'm sure a little kiss isn't going to ruin things, haha.
Yeah, I think they are ready for that kiss now. But mind you: Guybrush says that _sometimes_ and only on his birthday Elaine would wear fishnets. That's rarer than rare if you ask me.
i think the dancing boobs of the voodoo lady are
enough on-screen sex for the whole season :eek::D
It can't be that difficult for those talented people working at TTG...
Yeah, but to fit into their busy schedules as they're on a monthly-update one. They would have to manipulate the lips etc. and make the faces much more life-like just for that one cutscene that had a kiss in, because otherwise it would be like pressing two manikin's faces at each other and it'd highlight the flaws in the graphics for those who had been criticizing it.
She's avoided Personal Digital Assistants?
Close one character's eyes, move their heads towards each other, change the shot to a wide one behind one of the characters, tilt the front character's head sideways. Add kissy sound. The power of suggestion!
They're witchcraft in pirate time, remember?
Yeah, not too difficult to use camera angles and perspective, there's no real necessity to use a gratuitous close-up side shot. Nightmare Before Christmas used this technique, because as you can imagine, showing a skeleton and ragdoll with a stitched mouth who were both actual figurines kissing might have been a hard thing to do.
But anyway, I just think they didn't show anything because it's never been shown in the other games and maybe they wanted to keep tradition alive? I just doubt it has to do with the animation.
It's all the animation needed and time. Why use valuable time and resources in such small things? Tales is far from perfect, and falling into this kind of fan service stuff is a disservice to all of us because TT should be working on really important things (like bug fixes, improvements, better puzzles, etc.)
About the kiss: if the story or a puzzle really needs this, then go for it. Otherwise we'll probably end with fan-service scenes and sooner or later with (interactive) scenes like that on Fahrenheit/Indigo Prophecy (I won't give more details since this site is not "R" or "NC") that contributes little to nothing to the game.
And another thing:
In previous games sans EfMI (I never finished EfMI) there was no need to show "the kiss". Sometimes leaving things to imagination is better than the actual thing.
They probably want to leave it all to our imagination (and create vivid images by certain comments, as mentioned above...
That's exactly the point: From the exchanged dialogue between Guybrush and Elaine we can deduct that after the approx. decade they are married, they're still lovers who fight and care for each other as if they still had to win each others heart. This is shown in a convincing way (I think) without having the effect of being too sappy. There are many ways to show (or almost show) a couple kissing on screen. There's even more suspense to a "semi visible" kissing scene like Bas suggested.
One of my favorite bits at the moment is when pox-mad Elaine storms into the courtroom and grabs him in the 3-D version of a very personal kind of snuggle all while calling him "my bonnie lass!" I've been giggling about that for a couple of days now, especially the line, "Step into me captain's quarters and let me ravish ya silly!" If she hadn't smelled... whatever it was of Morgan's that she smelled, it would have been contempt of court in a minute there.
By the way, now that I think about it, well, that's an... um... interesting reaction to the pox. I think LeChuck just got a little more icky...
At the end of ch5 when they were on the boat & I heard the end credit music of MI1 (I love this theme & think it's perfect to end the game with), I thought "cool, were going to get a semi-romantic ending" like we got in MI1 when Elaine & Guybrush were staring into the star filled sky. Then the music changed & instead, we got a fairly poor explanation for all the plot holes & the credits rolled.
We then got an end credits theme that was a mish mash of all the songs from throughout the season, in what seemed like a forced showcase of what is admittedly, Michael Land's excellent soundtrack.
Instead of TT trying to explain the unexplainable at the end, I'd have much preferred a soppy ending with Elaine & Guybrush sailing off into the sunset with that reworking of the MI1 end credits theme playing & going on to play over the credits. And even perhaps a couple of "Go to bed - turn off your computer" type messages after the credits.
I think it has to do with the plot myself. Elane and guybrush dont seem to be all that romantic of a couple, they're both veryheadstrong and rather masculine... well ok.. one of them is... guybrush is rather femanine in fact...
In the battle against LeChcuk, Guybrush can ask Elaine if the fact that he though she was sexy when poxed means he's attracted to LeChuck.
Actually, an absence of kissing IS weird to the player, as it's rare to see a loving couple which is told to have sex, but doesn't seem to kiss.
I also thought it could be an animation issue but it's true that there are "tricks" to make it easier.
All in all, it's shown in other ways that they do love each other, but it does seem like a discrepancy. Even when you consider it's not a modern story, kissing was already common at the time (plus MI isn't beyond anachronisms anyways).
Well, to be perfectly fair, they do reference to them kissing(Examining the hanging corpse in the courtroom.), but I digress.
Maybe they're just shy in public, then.
Yeah, maybe. Elaine doesn't like to be called pet names in public either, like we learned from Spinner Cay ("Not in front of company, dear.")