About Morgan at the end of Ch 5.
:DHello,well this is my first post and its about Morgan Le Flay, the pirate hunter...
-The Questions
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1)In the end, could she return to her body?
2)Do you think she didnt have to die?
I think that she didnt had to die,and i didnt like very much the end of the game... but i cant say that the game isnt great.
Thanks,MFL!
*excuse my bad english, but it is not my lenguage
-The Questions
:1)In the end, could she return to her body?
2)Do you think she didnt have to die?
I think that she didnt had to die,and i didnt like very much the end of the game... but i cant say that the game isnt great.
Thanks,MFL!
*excuse my bad english, but it is not my lenguage
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2 - Given that Morgan's sacrifice was essential to Guybrush opening the Crossroads, yes, I think she did have to die for the sake of the plot. If she hadn't, then I don't know who Guybrush could have found in the Crossroads who'd have been willing to make the necessary sacrifice for him. Also, I think the cutscene where Guybrush finds her in DeSinge's lab is one of the best in all of Tales just because it's so dramatic and unexpected.
Sory about the title :S
Well,thanks for the coments.
PD:Do you think that she is going to come back in season 2?,it would be great:cool::guybrush:
Guybrush did it, and the Voodoo Lady probably has her body, so I'd say it's possible.
2)Do you think she didnt have to die?
She got killed while getting Guybrush's hand. If she had succeeded, that probably wouldn't have been very useful to him, and I suspect she decided to do it after drinking to much to drown her sorrow over Guybrush being very angry at her, so yeah, she prebably didn't have to die.
But at the end of chapter 5, how dead is she really? She's back in the world of the living, walking, talking, swashbuckling, etc. I'd say that's more alive than dead.
Also, you misspelled you username.
Yeah cause Lechuck stabbing Guybrush in the chest and harnessing the powers of esponja doesn't show his evilness at all. I'll admit it it did make an interesting story to kill off Morgan, but I was sad to see it. Personally I'm rooting to see her in the future and maybe will be true to her word that she won't cause anymore trouble for Guybrush.
And yes personally I think that
But just a little notice for all those who speculate the title: Morgan died in ep.4, so that's not a spoiler for Wii players anymore.
It's just one of them general spoilers for those who didn't awesome themselves to experience Tales yet
Oh damn, you just uncovered a pretty big plothole there. WHY can't Guybrush touch anything in the physical world, when NONE of the pirates in SOMI had trouble touching anything in the physical world? And certainly, LeChuck had quite a punch as a ghost, something which Guybrush physically experienced.
Maybe LeChuck and his ghosts could do that because of all of his voodoo powers or maybe he could because he knew The Secret of the Monkey Island™. Or maybe it's because Guybrush wasn't ghost long enough to figure out how to touch real objects.
I don't know what is the correct answer, but it's obvious that LeChuck was more powerful ghost than Guybrush was.
Actually, Guybrush would be Patrick Swayze, before getting help from that train ghost(Lechuck). Oh, and Elaine is Demi Moore?
Maybe it's because the Voodoo Lady brought LeChuck back (And Morgan) and gave them more power in the process, while Guybrush didn't have a voodoo license and came back as a very weak ghost.
LeChuck returned as a ghost, however because he was part of Big Whoop, he was granted physical tangibility, different form and the ability to transform humans into his minions (a weird thing, thou, he didn't do it with Guybrush in the first place - guess he just wanted to have fun
Does that cover up your whining, you plothole haters?
He did, but Guybrush escaped with the help from Elaine. Not explained in the game, due to time restriction. But there was supposed to be a cutscene showing how he ended up in the rollercoster ride. Elaine managed to make the rollercoaster go in an endless circle and not straight into molten lava, like it was supposed to. Search for CMI missing cutscene, and you'll see early concept art for the cutscene.
EDIT: also, Big Whoop being the gateway to the crossroads/hell is only speculation. Theories, no more no less. So it could still be considered a plothole.
Granted, LeChuck does not always need a good reason to kill people, but it would still be interesting to know for what intentions he went to DeSinge's lab and why he would show Morgan his true face while still acting "nice guy" to the rest of the world in his human form.
Could they have been fighting over Guybrush's hand?
Did it occur to you that the Voodoo Lady possesses a LOT of dead tissue now with Guybrush's and Morgan's body (or at least Guybrush's hand)? Combined with the bottled evilness of LeChuck and his charming belt buckle, I wonder if she's up to something..."creative"...
...that is one of the most terrifying mental images I have ever had. *shudders*
I don't understand what at all you're talking about. LeChuck's whole plan from the start was to get a hold of La Esponja and use it to obtain enough Voodoo power to both become unstoppable and to force Elaine to marry him.
Why would he "turn himself in" to get executed? The reason why he turned himself in was to get Guybrush back to working on the sponge. Why would he care about jus de vie? LeChuck wants the mature sponge, he doesn't care about the pox.
LeChuck's plan, once on Flotsam, was to do two things: 1) find the Voodoo Lady's journal and 2) get rid of Morgan. The first part gets executed when Elaine challenges Morgan in Club 41, partially dismissing the court session at same time. For the second part, LeChuck then lures Morgan into De Singe's lab to tell her that Guybrush doesn't care for her, but she jumps on him and they start fighting. So to insure his own safety, LeChuck impales Morgan with her own sword and jumps out the window, just in time to reach the courthouse.
The rest is what you all saw.
Yes he only turned himself in so Guybrush could get the sponge to grow, but it would have been quite possible that judge Grindstump would just say "Well, we have a confession, so let's proceed with the execution!" before Guybrush had time to grow the sponge. In that case, having some jus de vie would come in very handy.
Why would he care about Morgan? They had no prior encounter earlier in the game. I think he killed her just because he can.
But with Morgan on stage Guybrush could've lost it. And this is why he lured Morgan in the lab and killed her, at the same time framing De Singe.
LeChuck is one smart devil, believe me. He overcame any doubts about his stupidity this time.
My theory is that she went to DeSinge's lab to take Guybrush's hand back from him. One of the things she says to Guybrush before he leaves Club 41 once he's given the voodoo summons to Elaine is "But what if I-" then Guybrush cuts her off before she can finish the sentence. I think what she was going to say is 'but what if I get your hand back?'
So she goes to DeSinge's, but instead of finding Guybrush's hand she finds Jacques, who tells her about LeChuck's plan involving hypnotised monkeys. After Guybrush finds her in DeSinge's she does say that she found Jacques and that he told her something. She doesn't manage to tell Guybrush exactly what it was that Jacques told her, but she does tell him "don't trust LeChuck, he hypnotised a bunch of monkeys and ran me through with my own blade." (that's what her unintelligible last words are, though Guybrush hears 'DeSinge is a schmuck, when he got thirsty he killed me for some lemonade')
Now, why LeChuck turned up at DeSinge's I don't know, unless he was looking for Jacques so that he could hypnotise him as well, because in Rise of the Pirate God Jacques has the weird eye thing going on that all the hypnotised monkeys have.