anyone tried this game yet?

edited June 2010 in Tales of Monkey Island
http://store.steampowered.com/app/58200

Just saw the trailer and it seems awfully close to a certain game... :rolleyes:
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  • edited June 2010
    It does look like a ripoff to me. It doesn't seem particularly funny though...
  • edited June 2010
    I am planing on giving it a shot later this week.
  • edited June 2010
    Oh please. They mention in their FAQ (http://www.brawsome.com.au/JollyRover/) that it "follows the Lucas Arts view of adventure games that" blah blah blah. So yes, it's an adventure game with the same style as Lucas Arts', and yes it's about pirates, but that's it. Just because it shares a genre and a theme (by the way, LucasArts never made a game about DOG pirates) doesn't mean it's a ripoff, and I really think if they wanted to rip something off, the result wouldn't have artwork this pretty.

    I do think it's a bit overpriced (by today's standards), but it's not a ripoff..
  • edited June 2010
    NeatNit wrote: »
    Oh please. They mention in their FAQ (http://www.brawsome.com.au/JollyRover/) that it "follows the Lucas Arts view of adventure games that" blah blah blah. So yes, it's an adventure game with the same style as Lucas Arts', and yes it's about pirates, but that's it. Just because it shares a genre and a theme (by the way, LucasArts never made a game about DOG pirates) doesn't mean it's a ripoff, and I really think if they wanted to rip something off, the result wouldn't have artwork this pretty.

    There are a couple of other small similarities... a puny (by comparison) protagonist and the use of the Curse text font
  • edited June 2010
    It looks good to me. I'll try the demo if I can find a way to. Is it available outside of steam?
  • edited June 2010
    NeatNit wrote: »
    Oh please. They mention in their FAQ (http://www.brawsome.com.au/JollyRover/) that it "follows the Lucas Arts view of adventure games that" blah blah blah. So yes, it's an adventure game with the same style as Lucas Arts', and yes it's about pirates, but that's it. Just because it shares a genre and a theme (by the way, LucasArts never made a game about DOG pirates) doesn't mean it's a ripoff, and I really think if they wanted to rip something off, the result wouldn't have artwork this pretty.

    I do think it's a bit overpriced (by today's standards), but it's not a ripoff..

    It's obviously a ripoff. The setting looks nearly identical to Monkey Island!


    Has anyone actually played it though? It doesn't seem very funny from the trailer, but I have no idea how puzzles work.

    $20 for an indie game is a fair bit on steam, generally they're 9.99. Still, it's cheap if you compare it to retail games which sell for $120, I would expect to see this game for $50 if it was sold at stores.
  • edited June 2010
    Fury wrote: »
    Still, it's cheap if you compare it to retail games which sell for $120, I would expect to see this game for $50 if it was sold at stores.

    I have never in my life seen a videogame sell for $120 new and without special accessories.
  • edited June 2010
    Fury forgot the AU in front of the $ signs.
  • edited June 2010
    Oh, okay, since he named the $20, which are USD, I thought all the rest was. No clue what an AUD is worth so I can't say.
  • edited June 2010
    Well, AU$120 is still around $100, but Australia gets mighty ripped off when it comes to retail games.
  • edited June 2010
    Well, AU$120 is still around $100, but Australia gets mighty ripped off when it comes to retail games.

    Yeah. At the moment, AU120 is US100. Which is the price of new release games. It sucks.





    Anyway, back on topic.

    So this is an adventure game, set in the caribbean with pirates and voodoo, and evil skeleton ghost things, but its not a ripoff because everyone is a dog.
  • edited June 2010
    Fury wrote: »
    It's obviously a ripoff. The setting looks nearly identical to Monkey Island!

    The setting is similar, not identical. And wouldn't you expect most pirate adventure games to have very similar scenery?
  • edited June 2010
    Looks like some sort of satire on pirate games/ adventures. I'd give it a chance. Though I don't know if I'll be spending any money on it any time soon...
  • edited June 2010
    Fury wrote: »
    It does look like a ripoff to me.

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  • edited June 2010
    This has the same gameplay AND the same graphical style! And the same setting!

    It IS A RIPOFF! OBVIOUSLY! Just because every character is a Dog doesn't mean it's original! If someone made "The Curse Of Cat Island", and every character was a cat pirate, it would still be a ripoff!
  • edited June 2010
    Oh and Pale Man.

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  • edited June 2010
    Fury wrote: »
    This has the same gameplay AND the same graphical style! And the same setting!

    It IS A RIPOFF! OBVIOUSLY! Just because every character is a Dog doesn't mean it's original! If someone made "The Curse Of Cat Island", and every character was a cat pirate, it would still be a ripoff!

    Main Entry: rip–off
    Pronunciation: \ˈrip-ˌȯf\
    Function: noun
    Date: 1969

    1 : an act or instance of stealing : theft; also : a financial exploitation
    2 : a usually cheap exploitive imitation
  • edited June 2010
    Pale Man wrote: »

    2 : a usually cheap exploitive imitation

    Damn right.
  • edited June 2010
    Fury wrote: »
    Damn right.

    Having entirely different art style, characters, storyline, etc. = not a ripoff. Please stop claiming that everything that looks or plays similar to anything else is a ripoff.
  • edited June 2010
    Pale Man wrote: »
    Having entirely different art style, characters, storyline, etc. = not a ripoff. Please stop claiming that everything that looks or plays similar to anything else is a ripoff.

    The art style is the same as SOMI:SE. You'd have to be blind to not acknowledge that both games look the same.

    It might still be good. I'm gonna wait until a gamespot review, they're adventure game reviews have been pretty spot on recently. But it is a monkey island clone.
  • edited June 2010
    Fury wrote: »
    The art style is the same as SOMI:SE. You'd have to be blind to not acknowledge that both games look the same.

    It might still be good. I'm gonna wait until a gamespot review, they're adventure game reviews have been pretty spot on recently. But it is a monkey island clone.

    The art style is nowhere near it, and you'd have to be blind to think it was.

    At best, it's inspired by Monkey Island, but in order to be a ripoff/clone, they would have had to set out to make exactly the same game, and change barely enough for people to maybe not notice. If you want an example of something that IS a ripoff, go read Eragon.
  • edited June 2010
    Pale Man wrote: »
    The art style is nowhere near it, and you'd have to be blind to think it was.

    At best, it's inspired by Monkey Island, but in order to be a ripoff/clone, they would have had to set out to make exactly the same game, and change barely enough for people to maybe not notice. If you want an example of something that IS a ripoff, go read Eragon.

    I haven't read Eragon. I watched a bit of the movie, but I got bored halfway. I'm guessing you're going to say it's a Pern ripoff?

    A game doesn't have to be 100% the same to be a ripoff. It's a cheap MI imitation, just like your definition stated.
  • edited June 2010
    Pale Man wrote: »
    The art style is nowhere near it, and you'd have to be blind to think it was.

    At best, it's inspired by Monkey Island, but in order to be a ripoff/clone, they would have had to set out to make exactly the same game, and change barely enough for people to maybe not notice. If you want an example of something that IS a ripoff, go read Eragon.

    Honestly Keith, you can never admit you're wrong.

    It looks just like Monkey Island. It just has talking animals!
  • edited June 2010
    Fury wrote: »
    Honestly Keith, you can never admit you're wrong.

    It looks just like Monkey Island. It just has talking animals!

    I'm never wrong, and am I supposed to care that you know my name?
  • edited June 2010
    Pale Man wrote: »
    The art style is nowhere near it, and you'd have to be blind to think it was.

    At best, it's inspired by Monkey Island, but in order to be a ripoff/clone, they would have had to set out to make exactly the same game, and change barely enough for people to maybe not notice. If you want an example of something that IS a ripoff, go read Eragon.

    Okay, I was secretly on your side in this argument(unless the main dogs name is dogbrush sheepgood or something) but can you please explain how Eragon is a ripoff? And how it is any different to what Fury is arguing?
  • edited June 2010
    Pale Man wrote: »
    I'm never wrong, and am I supposed to care that you know my name?

    Nah, I just thought it was funny you put yourself on a dating site lol.

    Pretty lame.
  • edited June 2010
    Fury wrote: »
    Nah, I just thought it was funny you put yourself on a dating site lol.

    Pretty lame.

    When I was like... 17.
  • edited June 2010
    Pale Man wrote: »
    When I was like... 17.

    What a lame 17 year old you were.
  • edited June 2010
    Fury wrote: »
    What a lame 17 year old you were.

    Thanks for reminding me of that so I could deactivate my account, though.
  • edited June 2010
    Okay, I was secretly on your side in this argument(unless the main dogs name is dogbrush sheepgood or something) but can you please explain how Eragon is a ripoff? And how it is any different to what Fury is arguing?

    There are entire sites devoted to pointing out the vast amount of things Eragon has ripped off, I don't have the time or willingness to list them all here.
  • edited June 2010
    Pale Man wrote: »
    Thanks for reminding me of that so I could deactivate my account, though.

    I'm not surprised you haven't heard anything from that site.

    lol so funny. And lame.

    Anyway back on topic.

    How is Eragon a ripoff?
  • edited June 2010
    Pale Man wrote: »
    There are entire sites devoted to pointing out the vast amount of things Eragon has ripped off, I don't have the time or willingness to list them all here.

    Oh, so similarities ARE ripoffs? Up until now you were stating everything had to be the same for it to be a ripoff. Looks like you just shot yourself in the foot.
  • edited June 2010
    Fury wrote: »
    Oh, so similarities ARE ripoffs? Up until now you were stating everything had to be the same for it to be a ripoff. Looks like you just shot yourself in the foot.

    The entire plot is lifted from Star Wars almost verbatim, and there are tons and tons of locations/characters etc. that use barely altered names lifted from LOTR, etc.

    It's far more extensive than using a similar setting or similar plot elements.
  • edited June 2010
    God forbid there be another 2d adventure game involving pirates.

    You people are silly. Now, if there was a villain called LeMutt, then that would be a rip-off.
  • edited June 2010
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  • edited June 2010
    Look! Look at all these LucasArts game rip offs!!!!!

    http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/games.php?category=1

    :rolleyes:
  • edited June 2010
    Avatar is also essentially a ripoff.

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    To me, something isn't a ripoff unless the storyline is completely unoriginal and clearly lifted from something else. It's like calling a film a ripoff for using similar cinematography to call a video game a ripoff for using similar gameplay and interface.
  • edited June 2010
    Pale Man wrote: »

    To me, something isn't a ripoff unless the storyline is completely unoriginal and clearly lifted from something else. It's like calling a film a ripoff for using similar cinematography to call a video game a ripoff for using similar gameplay and interface.

    Sif anyone respects the opinion of someone who uses dating sites.

    But on a serious note. To me, a ripoff is where something steals something from something else. It may not be 100% ripoff, but it's stolen aspects from other things.

    There's exceptions, but for me, a Point And Click Adventure Game set in the Caribbean with comedy, pirates and voodoo is a ripoff for me. And the settings looked very familiar.

    If that game drops to 2.50 however, I will buy it.
  • edited June 2010
    Fury wrote: »
    Sif anyone respects the opinion of someone who uses dating sites.

    Please drop this. Even if it was funny in the first place, it wouldn't be funny now. And if you're using it legitimately in this debate/argument, then you are failing and embarrassing yourself. Plus, I respect his opinions.

    Anyway Fury, it is not a rip off. Pirates and piracy are common themes/concepts in many movies, games and books. If you set out to make a game that is centered around pirates, then it is inevitable that there are going to be similarities between it and pirate adventure games that preceded it.
    Fury wrote: »
    There's exceptions, but for me, a Point And Click Adventure Game set in the Caribbean with comedy, pirates and voodoo is a ripoff for me.

    Okay, so if there's comedy in it, that means it's a rip-off, does it? Jolly Rover stole the idea of 'comedy' from LucasArts, yes?

    Pirates... it's a pirate-themed adventure game. Is nobody allowed to make a pirate adventure game now that Monkey Island exists? Or if they endeavor to make one, are you asking that they leave the pirates out of their pirate adventure game?

    Set in the Caribbean... isn't that where about 90% of all pirate stories are based?

    Voodoo is also a common theme in a lot of pirate fiction, and plus, Monkey Island didn't create the idea of voodoo. This idea existed prior to it. Monkey Island included voodoo in their games, so does that mean that they were ripping off any story that featured voodoo before it?
    Fury wrote: »
    And the settings looked very familiar.

    It's hard to make beaches and pirate ship interiors look different and distinctive.
  • edited June 2010
    Saying Jolly Rover is a ripoff of Monkey Island is like saying Star Wars is a ripoff of Star Trek because they both involve space, lasers, and drama.
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