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Steamworks

asteroidjayasteroidjay
edited September 2010 in Poker Night at the Inventory / Poker Night 2
Can someone at Telltale confirm that this game will use Steamworks, and if we buy it from this website we'll be able to register it on Steam?

Do you think there will be achievements and leaderboards and other Steam features? :)

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  • RingmasterJ5RingmasterJ5
    edited September 2010
    I would like to know this too.
  • VarrokVarrok
    edited September 2010
    http://store.steampowered.com/app/31280/
  • der_ketzerder_ketzer
    edited September 2010
    Most people seem to be certain that there will also be a TF2-hat. I have no idea why they would think that right now. And in one of the articles it was mentioned that this game will have steamworks. (no official statement in this forum yet though?)
    If you want the steamfeatures then why don't you buy it on steam in the first place?
  • WoodsyblueWoodsyblue
    edited September 2010
    Varrok wrote: »
    http://store.steampowered.com/app/31280/

    The question isn't is it on Steam, but rather will buying through Telltale require a steam profile to install? As in it uses steamworks but is steam a necessity?
  • der_ketzerder_ketzer
    edited September 2010
    Woodsyblue wrote: »
    The question isn't is it on Steam, but rather will buying through Telltale require a steam profile to install? As in it uses steamworks but is steam a necessity?

    I don't think steem will be a requirement if you buy the game on this site.
  • WoodsyblueWoodsyblue
    edited September 2010
    der_ketzer wrote: »
    I don't think steem will be a requirement if you buy the game on this site.

    You may very well be right but that would make me wonder how integrated and important the steamworks would be. If it's just a set of achievements I'm sure most of us can live without that.

    Have there been steamworks games that haven't required Steam in the past? I wouldn't be surprised if it went either way to be honest.
  • VarrokVarrok
    edited September 2010
    Can someone at Telltale confirm that this game will use Steamworks...
    http://store.steampowered.com/app/31280/
    The question isn't is it on Steam...
    :confused: I'm pretty sure that it was a part of this question...

    Anyway, If it's singleplayer simple poker game then achievements and leatherboards aren't really needed here...
  • WoodsyblueWoodsyblue
    edited September 2010
    asteroidjay wrote: »
    Can someone at Telltale confirm that this game will use Steamworks, and if we buy it from this website we'll be able to register it on Steam?

    Do you think there will be achievements and leaderboards and other Steam features? :)

    When I read this question it seems to me that it's assumed that the game will be on Steam. Again, the question isn't 'is it on Steam?' it's 'will it use steamworks if we buy it from telltale?' (Paraphrasing)
  • asteroidjayasteroidjay
    edited September 2010
    Woodsyblue wrote: »
    When I read this question it seems to me that it's assumed that the game will be on Steam. Again, the question isn't 'is it on Steam?' it's 'will it use steamworks if we buy it from telltale?' (Paraphrasing)

    Correct. Kotaku reported that this game will use Steamworks, and I would like confirmation.

    If it does use Steamworks, Steam will be a requirement for everyone who buys the game.
    Varrok wrote: »
    Anyway, If it's singleplayer simple poker game then achievements and leatherboards aren't really needed here...

    A lot of simple singleplayer games have achievements and leaderboards.
  • TjibbbeTjibbbe
    edited September 2010
    Some sources suggest that this is the first Telltale title that uses Steamworks, and that's just plain wrong. The Devil's Playhouse uses Steamworks, and that simply means that when you buy the game, you get both the Mac and the PC-version. You don't need Steamworks for that when you buy from TTG, because you can simply choose the file you need on your game list on this site. There's no reason to assume that it will be any different with Poker Night.

    Of course, it's possible that there will be achievements, but the PC-versions of Telltale's games have never had them before, and I doubt that they'll start doing them now.
  • NewbladeNewblade
    edited September 2010
    Tjibbbe wrote: »
    Some sources suggest that this is the first Telltale title that uses Steamworks, and that's just plain wrong. The Devil's Playhouse uses Steamworks, and that simply means that when you buy the game, you get both the Mac and the PC-version. You don't need Steamworks for that when you buy from TTG, because you can simply choose the file you need on your game list on this site. There's no reason to assume that it will be any different with Poker Night.
    That's not Steamworks,that's Steamplay. Steamworks is community integration, in-game DLC, achievements, steam cloud, etc.
  • TjibbbeTjibbbe
    edited September 2010
    Newblade wrote: »
    That's not Steamworks,that's Steamplay. Steamworks is community integration, in-game DLC, achievements, steam cloud, etc.

    I stand corrected. My apologies!
  • xbskidxbskid
    edited September 2010
    asteroidjay wrote: »
    If it does use Steamworks, Steam will be a requirement for everyone who buys the game.

    This is ludicrously incorrect. :) Like any other game with Steamworks support that is available both on and off Steam, that component/integration will only be used by the Steam version, and will not be available for the non-Steam version.
  • asteroidjayasteroidjay
    edited September 2010
    xbskid wrote: »
    This is ludicrously incorrect. :) Like any other game with Steamworks support that is available both on and off Steam, that component/integration will only be used by the Steam version, and will not be available for the non-Steam version.

    Give me an example. Because all Steamworks games I know of like Just Cause 2, Mafia II, Modern Warfare 2, Aliens vs. Predator use Steam in ALL versions.
  • Macfly77Macfly77 Moderator
    edited September 2010
    What (I believe) xbskid is saying is that when a game is available both for Steam and in a non-Steam version (like, say, every Telltale game that's available for Steam), the one that's on sale on Telltale's website does not require Steam to run (and will not have the Steamworks component, whatever that is - sorry, but I'm not a Steam specialist).
    However, the version of this game that uses Steamworks will indeed require Steam (and will most likely not be available in the Telltale Store).
  • xbskidxbskid
    edited September 2010
    asteroidjay wrote: »
    Give me an example. Because all Steamworks games I know of like Just Cause 2, Mafia II, Modern Warfare 2, Aliens vs. Predator use Steam in ALL versions.

    If all the games you mentioned are only available on PC via Steam, then Steam is a requirement regardless of Steamworks support. Macfly77 is correct in understanding what I said; there are games that can utilize Steamworks if you buy them on Steam, but they are also available outside of Steam (And thus will not utilize Steamworks).

    Here's a list of games I found that have Steamworks support for the Steam version, but are also available outside of Steam. Some of them I think you can only get on Direct2Drive, but a good number of them you can get DRM-free directly from the developers' websites.

    - Mount&Blade: Warband
    - Stargate: Resistance
    - Torchlight
    - Altitude
    - Zombie Driver
    - Osmos
    - Trine
    - America's Army
    - Plants vs. Zombies
    - Zeno Clash
    - Braid
    - Flock!
    - And Yet It Moves
    - Unreal Tournament 3
    - Harvest: Massive Encounter
    - Aquaria
    - Defense Grid: The Awakening
    - World of Goo
  • asteroidjayasteroidjay
    edited September 2010
    You are correct about those games, xbskid. I apologize for my mistake. Many of those games can have their CD keys registered on Steam though.

    I still would like to know if the Telltale website version of the game uses Steamworks or can be registered on Steam.
  • xbskidxbskid
    edited September 2010
    asteroidjay wrote: »
    Many of those games can have their CD keys registered on Steam though.

    I still would like to know if the Telltale website version of the game uses Steamworks or can be registered on Steam.

    1) Yes, they can! But I really have no idea what's involved in getting blocks of a company's serials to be recognized by Steam, like how much Valve charges for that service. It would be wonderfully convenient, though.

    2) I'm pretty sure the fact that Telltale is selling a version of the game outside of Steam is enough proof that that version won't use Steamworks (Proof enough for me, anyway. Still, I won't argue against receiving official word on the matter :)).
  • WillWill Telltale Alumni
    edited September 2010
    Kotaku reported correctly. This will be using Steamworks, the details of which will be forthcoming sooner or later.
  • olimangoolimango
    edited September 2010
    Will wrote: »
    Kotaku reported correctly. This will be using Steamworks, the details of which will be forthcoming sooner or later.

    Awesome, thanks for the info.
  • BoneFreakBoneFreak
    edited September 2010
    It's not like people who buy this won't have Steam anyway, I mean a lot of people want it for The Heavy, and his game can be only played with downloading Steam. In fact, why not use Steam in the first place?
  • xbskidxbskid
    edited September 2010
    BoneFreak wrote: »
    It's not like people who buy this won't have Steam anyway, I mean a lot of people want it for The Heavy, and his game can be only played with downloading Steam. In fact, why not use Steam in the first place?

    1) Telltale gets more money when you buy directly from them. Actually, they get all of it.
    2) Some games available via retail actually have resale value. With Steam, and all of digital distribution, it's a permanent transaction. If you get tired of a game, you can't get resell it. In fact, reselling is specifically prohibited in many Terms of Service documents like Steam's Subscriber Agreement and the ToS for the PlayStation Network.
  • ShwooShwoo
    edited September 2010
    Also, not everyone who wants the game is necessarily a Team Fortress 2 fan.
  • Gman5852Gman5852
    edited September 2010
    Will wrote: »
    Kotaku reported correctly. This will be using Steamworks, the details of which will be forthcoming sooner or later.

    So how does that work for people who bought via the telltale store(me)
  • StrongBadinatorStrongBadinator
    edited September 2010
    'member how for The Devil's Toybox you could get a max hat and other stuff in TF2 if you reordered it from steam? Well, I didn't know that at first. So I bought it from telltale. I was devastated when I found out. But then, telltale gave me a nifty code I could put into steam to get the hat and guns. (it wasn't like an email or something, it was an actual web page. Someone dig that up. I'm too lazy.) I'm sure that telltale will do the same for poker night.
  • Gman5852Gman5852
    edited September 2010
    StrongBadinator wrote: »
    'member how for The Devil's Toybox you could get a max hat and other stuff in TF2 if you reordered it from steam? Well, I didn't know that at first. So I bought it from telltale. I was devastated when I found out. But then, telltale gave me a nifty code I could put into steam to get the hat and guns. (it wasn't like an email or something, it was an actual web page. Someone dig that up. I'm too lazy.) I'm sure that telltale will do the same for poker night.

    I remember that(infact from them on I played the devils playhouse through steam) but it would be odd for telltale to allow to buy the game, only for them to give you a code to buy it somewhere else.
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