The Newly Regenerated Doctor Who Thread

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  • edited September 2012
    imo most of the angels looked goofy and fake when snarling/bearing teeth other wise the rest looked ok.

    other wise the end of the ponds was kinda lame an angel survives and takes them..really ?

    imo they should of left it at the roof top they jump off time resets but amy and rory don't return we just see their graves and a tomb stone inscription about reading the book.. and then the doctor just ups and leaves that remaining angel in manhattan ? really ??

    on the plus side 'owen' is smokin ;)
  • edited September 2012
    Well, of course, it doesn't really end there... the Eighth Doctor was in New York in 1938 as well, where he'd be able to pick them up and go on many adventures.
  • edited September 2012
    And like I said, so long as the Doctor returns them to the 19whatevers, there's nothing to stop them having more adventures, or him taking them to see their parents and whatnot.

    And hey, whatever happened to Spoilers?
  • edited September 2012
    And like I said, so long as the Doctor returns them to the 19whatevers, there's nothing to stop them having more adventures, or him taking them to see their parents and whatnot.

    And hey, whatever happened to Spoilers?

    I figured I needn't bother a mod by reporting the previous post for spoilers. They're busy enough as we're appearing to go through another spammer attack around now.

    Also no Eighth Doctor picks them up and they go on adventures you are wrong it has been Gatiss' plan all along
  • edited September 2012
    Ribs wrote: »
    it has been Gatiss' plan all along

    I thought his secret plan was to make him self the 12th and final Doctor .
  • edited September 2012
    also matt smith doc says he tried to go back but can't cos the time line is so messed up in 1938 or whatever

    happy now ;)
  • edited September 2012
    Use spoiler tags!
  • edited September 2012
    also matt smith doc says
    he tried to go back but can't cos the time line is so messed up in 1938 or whatever
    How about 1945? Or 1950? Not so tangled there.
  • edited September 2012
    The Doctor said he couldn't go back. I think the Ponds dropping back fifty years or more and then ageing to death is like Adric dying.... the Doctor can't save him/them or even go and say goodbye because it has already happened. Sending them the book to publish is different, though, because the events leading to their deaths rely on it.
  • edited September 2012
    You mis-spelt 'spoiler'.
    Eh, that's open to interpretation. I still think the Doctor can pop back and say hello - I think he even said that. There's no real record of them doing anything, just that they die in their 80s. In THE 80s, if I got the timespan right. The book basically detailed the events of the episode, not what they did afterwards. Who's to say they can't do more?
  • edited September 2012
    When Rory read that tombstone, I nearly shouted "OH SHIT!" in my tiny hotel room with my sleeping roommate. Out of the whole episode, I think that was probably the best done moment.
    It tied everything together that we learned that episode into a nice drama moment right there. I don't know if anyone agrees with me, that was just my feeling on the subject.
  • edited September 2012
    So the Ponds are now stuck in middle century New York. And, in about 3 decades, their daughter will be there. Are they going to do something with that, or will they just ignore the continuity?
  • edited September 2012
    One thing that bothered me about the episode, that I couldn't stop thinking about was
    that even with the fact that there was a lot of temporal disturbance focussed around new York in 1938, what was to stop them materialising just outside of new York, and taking a train in or something? Plus he could still go back with the vortex manipulator river used to get there. Why was she there anyway?
  • edited September 2012
    Friar wrote: »
    One thing that bothered me about the episode, that I couldn't stop thinking about was
    that even with the fact that there was a lot of temporal disturbance focussed around new York in 1938, what was to stop them materialising just outside of new York, and taking a train in or something? Plus he could still go back with the vortex manipulator river used to get there. Why was she there anyway?

    It could be more complicated than was discussed in the episode.
    Perhaps the rift was connected to Amy and Rory and so no matter where they went it would still be in effect. Or perhaps this is a convenient loophole that Moffat will be exploiting later when he wants to bring them back for a cameo. I believe the second option is more likely.

    Or maybe the Doctor really hates trains. Like, a lot.
  • edited September 2012
    I think it's not that Doctor Who couldn't do it,
    it's that Amy and Rory had let him go and he, though recognizing how sad it is, has to let go of them too.

    Until Doctor Who #8 and Charley rescue them, that is.
  • edited September 2012
    You all also need to remember that
    River said the Doctor couldn't bare seeing them aged. Going to a later date, say, 1950, would mean he would have to face the fact that Rory and Amy will die sooner than he will anyway. And sure, he could go to an earlier date to meet them later, but that would mean he would have to stay put for a very long time, and aside from the fact that the Doctor has a serious case of cannot-stay-still, he would risk exposing himself to the world again, after the trouble he went through erasing himself from history.
  • edited September 2012
    the doctor didn't erase himself, it was owen the dalek who deleted the doctor in the premier episode...
  • edited October 2012
    No, Oswin removed him from the Daleks. He's been going around doing similar things to everyone and every database in the universe between episodes.

    Anywho, new image of Paul McGann in character klaxon.
  • edited October 2012
    So what happened to Amy and Rory
    waving to there past selfs in Cold Blood?
  • edited October 2012
    Happened in between adventures.
  • edited October 2012
    Double post, I know, but there's a lot of good points raised here.
  • edited October 2012
    I thought it was a perfect episode. Seriously, some of the complaints being brought up are just over analyzing things. There was these kind of errors in Blink to, just now it's being applied to main characters, people should just go with the ride, the only part I thought was stupid was the Statue of Liberty (surely someone had to notice that!) but the interaction between Rory and Amy and showing just how much they loved each other is what made the episode, Amy was so distraught over losing Rory and his death being set in stone that she chose to sacrifice herself and be sent back to, she willingly left The Doctor to be with the man she loved, and both her and Rory lived their life together and were happy until they both died, ...why would The Doctor want to change that? Like he said when trying to convince Amy, he can try and figure out a way to get Rory back perhaps, he was desperate to not let her go, but she let him go, and the Williams lived out their life.
  • edited October 2012
    TOM BAKER IS BACK........

    ..... in speculation-based news.

    http://dailypop.wordpress.com/2012/10/02/tom-baker-returns-to-doctor-who-for-50th/

    I'll believe it when I see it.
  • edited October 2012
    I eagerly await the denial.
  • edited October 2012
    If the 50th special is a multy Doctor ep they will have to work rly rly hard to make it better then The Three Doctors the best multy Doctor ep ever.
  • edited October 2012
    Well, I suppose they won't have to try very hard, then...
  • edited October 2012
    I've recently got the 5th issue of the Doctor Who and Star Trek crossover comic and I was wondering, is anyone else also reading this? Personally, I've liked it so far.
  • edited October 2012
    Ribs wrote: »
    Well, I suppose they won't have to try very hard, then...

    That ep was easily on the top 5 of the classic series.
  • JenniferJennifer Moderator
    edited October 2012
    Mr Nutt wrote: »
    I've recently got the 5th issue of the Doctor Who and Star Trek crossover comic and I was wondering, is anyone else also reading this? Personally, I've liked it so far.
    I definitely plan on reading it, but I'm going to wait for the trade paperback. :)
  • edited October 2012
    Mr Nutt wrote: »
    I've recently got the 5th issue of the Doctor Who and Star Trek crossover comic and I was wondering, is anyone else also reading this? Personally, I've liked it so far.

    I'm reading them a month or so behind, because the previous issue drops in price on comixology after the newest one comes out. So if 5's out I can probably get the fourth one now.

    I thought the first issue was quite dull and the second one wasn't really eventful either... I did enjoy the
    flashback scenes in the third one, mostly because the art style is less obnoxious and also because it feels like more story actually happens
    . Still, I'm interested in seeing where they go with it.

    I'm curious to see how they justify the Cyb/org team-up, since it still doesn't really seem like they have much to gain from each other.
  • edited October 2012
    Shouldn't that be Cy/Borg?

    On paper, they have similar goals. Make everyone like themselves. Of course, when you get down to it, you're right. The Cybermen want that, but the Borg want to adapt all races into one, assimilating all cultures and races. Which... kinda makes them the same, I guess. Huh.
  • edited October 2012
    Assimilation2 has been hideously expensive, utterly tedious (four or five issues in and there's been barely anything happening at all), and they've traced some really inappropriate choices of artwork.
  • edited October 2012
    It has had some truly beautiful art
    JTSP.jpeg
  • edited October 2012
    Hey, want that book from The Angels Take Manhattan? Well, you can't. But here's the next best thing!
  • JenniferJennifer Moderator
    edited October 2012
    So if Melody got the energy from the TARDIS into her DNA, wouldn't she actually be part TARDIS rather than part Time Lord? Unless the TARDIS is a Time Lord, but I don't know if I like the implications of that. It makes me think of the stories of witches and their familiars where the familiars are really just witches gone bad who were punished to live their lives out as cats or other animals. Then again, maybe the TARDIS is a reincarnated Time Lord who has already lived out 13 regenerations.
  • edited October 2012
    Time Lorda became Time Lorda die to exposure to the Time Vortex. As such, she's Human, plus sort of a Time Lord.
  • edited October 2012
    Also Kovarian/Silence and the Church manipulated her genes while Amy was carrying her to speed up the process of evolution.
  • edited October 2012
    Some more news based on speculation, padded out with 'sources'

    http://www.express.co.uk/features/view/350831/Grand-reunion-for-Doctor-Who-s-50th-anniversary-

    (What's the point of putting Rose and Amy Pond and whatnot in the show in 2013? Surely we can hold them over another year or so till the 10th Anniversary of the programme coming back?)
  • edited October 2012
    I love the fact that they don't actually say it's happening, just saying "it's hoped they will be involved". Heh.
  • edited October 2012
    There'll be an animated short released tomorrow involving what effect the events of Angels has on Brian...
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