Back to the Future II: Marty watches Biff commit GTA in 2015

I might be the only one who notices this, but when Biff steals the Delorean in Back to the Future II (in the future), keep your eyes on Marty as he walks away , at first following that dog that is walking itself. Biff steps into the forground and takes the car...but if you keep your eyes on marty out of focus in the background, he stops... does this really weird hop ...and then seemingly stands there and watches Biff take the Delorean.

whoops....maybe Marty was in on it from the beginning...i love Michael J Fox, but i always thought Marty might be out to destroy the universe, HERE IS THE PROOF....you shady hill-valleyian.

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  • edited June 2011
    HERE IS THE PROOF....you shady hill-valleyian. ;)

    HERE'S MY REBUTTAL...you slacker!

    I pulled up my copy on my laptop to check it out and while he does do a little hop and stop, he's not looking at Biff but rather the house. Just before the scene cuts to the DeLorean, he bends down slightly as though to squint at the house.

    I always found that scene a little unusual anyway since he couldn't hear the DeLorean taking off nor see it with his peripheral vision. I suppose he was very interested in the house and the old saying, 'Out of sight, out of mind' applies here.
  • edited June 2011
    That scene always was a little weak. Marty should have walked completely out of sight of the DeLorean. (Which technically should also have been parked further away from Old Marty's house. Old Marty would have recognized it for what it was and it was dangerous of Doc to leave the DeLorean nearby.

    Then again...it was before Doc learned all the lessons he learned about time travel safety...)

    EDIT: Oh my goodness...I actually spelled scene as seen...I deserve to be whipped for that...
  • Kyronea wrote: »
    That scene always was a little weak. Marty should have walked completely out of sight of the DeLorean. (Which technically should also have been parked further away from Old Marty's house. Old Marty would have recognized it for what it was and it was dangerous of Doc to leave the DeLorean nearby.

    Then again...it was before Doc learned all the lessons he learned about time travel safety...)

    EDIT: Oh my goodness...I actually spelled scene as seen...I deserve to be whipped for that...

    It woudn't have been a big deal if old marty did see it. From his perspective, he'd remember the trip to 1955 (there's a fair amount of evidene in 2015 that these events did happen) and know what happened. He wouldnt remember his trip to 2015 as this is happening now. The danger is him seeing his younger self.
  • edited June 2011
    Even so, that scene could have been constructed better to accomplish the same effect. I mean, there's nothing wrong with the basic elements of it, but having Marty so close and not notice the DeLorean being stolen is silly. (I'm also wondering how Biff figured out how to work the machine so fast...also wondering if the Fusion generator has to be stocked every trip or only ever few trips or something.)
  • edited June 2011
    The time circuits are self explanatory really, and the digital speedometer Doc installed has red labels saying "Set to 88" so it'd be pretty apparent that 88 MPH is the target speed. As for the Mr. Fusion, seeing as how it's apparently a household appliance, I'm sure Biff can figure out to put trash in the thing. As for refilling it, that's kind of vague.
  • We dont see biff time travel, for all we know it takes him 5 days to figure out, he just makes sure he returns right after he left.

    It's quite possible that mr fusion is a regular household appliance in 2015 that the general person knows.
  • edited June 2011
    wow good call, i never thought about the fact that maybe Biff didn't time travel right away. still don't understand "the hop" lol.
  • edited June 2011
    wow good call, i never thought about the fact that maybe Biff didn't time travel right away. still don't understand "the hop" lol.

    Robots walk dogs in the future? I can't wait for the future, Yipee!! :D:p
  • edited June 2011
    Im going to buy a sports almanac in 2015. i'll figure out the time machine later.
  • edited June 2011
    Marty does go around the corner before Biff takes off, and he's distracted checking out the houses.
    He doesnt hear it because of what that huge amp probably did to his ears. :P
    still don't understand "the hop" lol.
    You're going to keep pushing that until somebody makes a short joke right?
  • edited June 2011
    still don't understand "the hop" lol.

    Maybe he was hopping mad?

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    Thank you, thank you! I am proud to have made the first (and extremely bad) joke of the topic. I'd like to thank my parents for being so supportive, my siblings for always being there for me, Doc Brown, the Telltale Games Forum members for being so encouraging and, of course, "the hop" that Michael J. Fox performed in the background of Back to the Future Part II. God bless *insert your country's name here* and have a good night!

    oberlerchner123, I refrained from making a 'short' joke in your honor.
  • edited June 2011
    Is there a Youtube clip of this, I must've missed this from the gazillion times I've watched them all.
  • edited June 2011
    PedsterUK wrote: »
    Is there a Youtube clip of this, I must've missed this from the gazillion times I've watched them all.

    Your wish is my command.

    Lucky you. The kid, who uploaded the clip, added this to his channel ten or so minutes ago.
  • edited June 2011
    We dont see biff time travel, for all we know it takes him 5 days to figure out, he just makes sure he returns right after he left.

    It's quite possible that mr fusion is a regular household appliance in 2015 that the general person knows.

    But if it had taken 5 days then that would have caused massive problems for Marty and Doc cos until he did return they would have been stuck in the future searching for the Deloreon at all costs.
    Plus if its the only flying Deloreon in town it might have been quite hard to hide.
  • But if it had taken 5 days then that would have caused massive problems for Marty and Doc cos until he did return they would have been stuck in the future searching for the Deloreon at all costs.
    Plus if its the only flying Deloreon in town it might have been quite hard to hide.

    No it would just mean there'd be 2 biffs for those 5 days, similar to how there is 2 marty's at the end of part I: because one got there before the other left.
  • edited June 2011
    No it would just mean there'd be 2 biffs for those 5 days, similar to how there is 2 marty's at the end of part I: because one got there before the other left.

    No there wouldn't because the first one faded out as soon as he returned.
    And that wasn't what I meant anyway.
  • edited June 2011
    You guys really shouldn't pick th emovie apart like that. You are lessening the enjoyment of it.
  • No there wouldn't because the first one faded out as soon as he returned.
    And that wasn't what I meant anyway.

    Actually no he didnt. Since the scene was deleted, it is up to interpretation.
  • edited June 2011
    I just wanted to say, what i wrote was all in good fun and in no way a knock on the movie, the scene, the actors, or the story. Truthfully i hadn't thought of any kind of "short joke" about Marty hopping, and i certainly didn't mean to bash anything about the movie, which i'd never change even if we could. Loved the movies, infact i only wrote that because i was watching it as i was on here, and thought i'd comment in a lighthearted manner. Apologies to anyone who thought it was a real knock, because the truth is, i just like finding things ive never noticed before, about the movies i love so much. These movies, are my Star Wars.

    And if i was going to make any off color jokes, they wouldn't be about anyones height. they'd be about , if William Mcfly returns in the latest episode, will he pee on Marty again?
  • edited June 2011
    And if i was going to make any off color jokes, they wouldn't be about anyones height. they'd be about , if William Mcfly returns in the latest episode, will he pee on Marty again?

    Classy. ;)
  • edited June 2011
    We dont see biff time travel, for all we know it takes him 5 days to figure out, he just makes sure he returns right after he left.

    It's quite possible that mr fusion is a regular household appliance in 2015 that the general person knows.

    Doesn't Marty say it's a nuclear reactor in episode 3 though? But then who knows, maybe by 2015 everyone knows how to work nuclear reactors.
  • edited June 2011
    Ashki wrote: »
    Doesn't Marty say it's a nuclear reactor in episode 3 though? But then who knows, maybe by 2015 everyone knows how to work nuclear reactors.

    Fusion implies explicitly that a nuclear reaction is taking place.

    Also:

    Mrfusion.jpg

    "Home" implies that it's a household appliance of sorts. And it is a reactor.
  • edited June 2011
    I'd hate to see what happens when one of those break down to be honest, though I'm sure by that time they have counter measures giving the fact that those are home appliances.
  • edited June 2011
    Getting energy out of random trash through fusion seems even more far-fetched then any of the other future stuff to me. We have a hard enough time getting a gain from fusion out of specific reactants in controlled applications.

    So I have two thoughts about it.
    One, is that it's likely not in regular use in 2015, but that Doc had it added at an even later date. Because we know he had been farther than that.
    The other, is that "fusion" could just be a catchy product name, and that it is really doing a more direct matter-energy conversion somehow (which would still probably be dangerous).

    Edit: In whatever time it was installed, Doc still wasn't using Mr. Fusion as fuel source for the car (and neither were any of the other cars that I can recall, which would say something about the high cost of the device vs. the potential savings in fuel or power bills). I can imagine him getting some funny looks when he brought the thing in to upgrade the nuclear reactor that is basically acting as a replacement car battery.
  • edited June 2011
    Tyrfing42 wrote: »
    Getting energy out of random trash through fusion seems even more far-fetched then any of the other future stuff to me. We have a hard enough time getting a gain from fusion out of specific reactants in controlled applications.

    So I have two thoughts about it.
    One, is that it's likely not in regular use in 2015, but that Doc had it added at an even later date. Because we know he had been farther than that.
    The other, is that "fusion" could just be a catchy product name, and that it is really doing a more direct matter-energy conversion somehow (which would still probably be dangerous).

    Edit: In whatever time it was installed, Doc still wasn't using Mr. Fusion as fuel source for the car (and neither were any of the other cars that I can recall, which would say something about the high cost of the device vs. the potential savings in fuel or power bills). I can imagine him getting some funny looks when he brought the thing in to upgrade the nuclear reactor that is basically acting as a replacement car battery.

    They probably saw him as a very strange antique collector. I mean, that's what a DeLorean is now, an antique.
  • edited June 2011
    Not really any more strange than possessing any other limited model vehicle. The only strange part would be that he would appear to be using it as his normal vehicle.

    Although I DO wonder how he managed to get the DeLorean--and for that matter a friggin' TRAIN--hover-converted without arousing extreme suspicion, what with the obviously labeled time travel circuits and all. (The train is even worse in this regard...that must have been far more expensive, to say the least.)
  • edited June 2011
    Kyronea wrote: »
    Not really any more strange than possessing any other limited model vehicle. The only strange part would be that he would appear to be using it as his normal vehicle.

    Although I DO wonder how he managed to get the DeLorean--and for that matter a friggin' TRAIN--hover-converted without arousing extreme suspicion, what with the obviously labeled time travel circuits and all. (The train is even worse in this regard...that must have been far more expensive, to say the least.)

    I think you're underestimating the Doc. Grease a few palms the right way, you never have to answer any questions.
  • edited June 2011
    I can point to a couple different fanfics that show that's not as easy as you think--one that involves someone figuring out Doc's time travel secret, and another that results in...well frankly, it's extremely dark subject matter, and I only recommend reading it after the previous fics in its series in order to understand it. (Incidentally the two fics are by Kristen Shelley--"Future Shock" and Mary Jean Holmes--"Until the End of Time"--respectively. Both are excellent writers and I recommend them both. You can find Kristen Shelley here:

    http://www.kristensheley.com/bttf/bttfanfic.html

    And Mary Jean Holmes here:

    http://www.mj-holmes.com/BTTFfanfic.htm)
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