King's Challenge?
I can't figure this one out at all; I'm starting to feel the same way I did with The Diabolical Box back in Professor Layton. Any help?
Sign in to comment in this discussion.
Comments
King's Challenge isn't in the filing cabinet, you unlock it when you finish every other puzzle (I'm not sure if getting Puzzle Agent ranking matters, but I did).
I had to do the robot puzzles for it to show up.
I tried this one until the game started glitching out and not letting me spin the wheels. I'm going to have to tackle this one again after I get some sleep...the only bit I've been able to figure out is how to juggle a number in the middle while keeping the rest of the numbers in order. It hasn't proven all that useful yet.
Surath, how many puzzles have you solved? 33 (excluding the King's Challenge), or more?
I had missed one puzzle during my playthrough. Maybe that has something to do with it?
With the robot puzzles solved, that brought it up to 33 solved. If you're at Puzzle Agent rank, then maybe you can't miss any during the playthrough. If not, I have a feeling that you have to get PA rank before you get the final puzzle.
edit:
I replayed the game with a perfect score and now I do have the King's Challenge! If anyone wants a savegame, let me know.
Now this was what I call a puzzle -- why didn't you put a dozen of these in the game?
Giddy up!
No kidding...once I took a serious attempt, it took me about a half hour to get through this one. I nearly ragequit when I had the 1s, 4s, 5s, and 6s in place, but the 2 and 3 were reversed.
Why weren't there more of those puzzles in this game as non-essential-to-solve? That was satisfying to defeat.
I'd like the savegame please. Failed few puzzles due to vague instructions and didn't get King's Challenge available.
(Save games are stored in %USERPROFILE%\My Documents\Telltale Games\Puzzle Agent 2. If you already saved something in the second slot, back up your existing save2.save file first!)
Dang it! Is it so hard for developers to get it right? Don't throw junk in my documents, that's my documents, not your private dumping zone. Behave and use the roaming application data like all proper programs!
I mean, if it gets an entry in the games start menu folder, then how can you screw up the save storage location?
Because Windows 7 uses that as default location to store save games, etc.
Yes it is called "My Documents" but that does not mean some private area. It is for games and programs to store data.
As for windows 7 defaulting to storing games there, that's bs. The only defaulting to my documents that windows does is for the common file dialogs. And there certainly is no dialog used here.
The alternative would probably be to build a proper import/export feature into the game, but that's a pretty complicated solution to the problem.
Warning - if you want to figure out King's Challenge for yourself and have the immense satisfaction that comes along with that, do not read the spoiler text. The spoiler text is only for people who want a quick and easy solution or who want to be able to repeat it every time.
R = turn the right circle once
L = turn the left circle once
I don't know if it matters or not but my starting circles look like this:
- 1 - 5 -
4 - 1 - 5
4 - 2 - 6
- 3 - 6 -
Congrats to Telltale on a second great Puzzle Agent game. I loved it.
Take care everyone!
Did you figure out a general strategy? I tried to think about things like sequences of moves that swap only two numbers, and although they do exist, they aren't very simple.
To experiment I hacked together my own implementation of the game, which others might find useful too:
http://hell.student.utwente.nl/kingschallenge/
The main feature is that it allows you to start from a random position, which offers a bit more variation. I still have a lot of difficulty solving these positions!
(People that haven't unlocked the King's Challenge in the game but want to try it anyway can use the original configuration here. The goal is
And if anyone ever wants to discuss possible strategy, solutions, tactics, etc. for this puzzle, I am game. Best puzzle in the game by my assessment.
I started off trying to think of a general strategy
Re: Binary: you are probably comparing it with this puzzle, right?
Although it looks similar, it is much easier than the King's Challenge because the puzzle from binary has only three labels (in that regard it's like Earth & Sun) and two buffer slots which make it a lot easier to move stuff around.
edit: Why does this stupid forum convert my pristine 28KB PNG images to ugly JPEG images?
By indexing the positions as:
- 6 - 0 -
7 - 5 - 1
8 - 4 - 2
- 9 - 3 -
Here are the shortest way to switch two numbers without changing the position of the others:
0<->2: RRRRLRRLLRRRLLRLLLLLRRLLL
0<->3: RRRRLRLLRRLRRLRRLLRLR
0<->4: RRRRLLLRRLRRRRLLRLLRLLLLL
0<->5: RRLLLLRRLLLRLRRLLLRRLRLLL
0<->6: RRRLRRRLLLRRRLLLLLRLLRRLL
0<->7: RRLLRLRRRLRLLRRLRLLRL
0<->8: RLLRLRRRRRLRLLRRLRRLR
0<->9: RRRRRLLRRRLLLLRLLRRLLLRRL
1<->2: RRLLLRLRRLLLRRLRLLLRRLLLL
1<->3: RRRLRRRLLRRLLRLLLLLRRRLLL
1<->4: RRRLRLLRRLRRLRRLLRLRR
1<->5: RRRRLLLLLRLLRLLRRRRLRRLLL
1<->6: RLRRRRRLRLLRRLRRLRRLL
1<->7: RLLRLRRRLRLLRRLRLLRLR
1<->8: RRLRLLRLRRLLRLRRRLRLL
1<->9: RLLRRLRRLRRLLRLRRRRRL
2<->3: RLLLRLRRLLLRRLRLLLRRLLLLR
2<->4: RRLRRRRRLLRRRLLLLRLLRRLLL
2<->5: RRRRRLRLLRRLRRLRRLLRL
2<->6: LRRRRRLRLLRRLRRLRRLLR
2<->7: RRLRRLRRLLRLRRRRRLRLL
2<->8: RLRLLRLRRLLRLRRRLRLLR
2<->9: LLRRLRRLRRLLRLRRRRRLR
3<->4: LLLRLRRLRRLLLLRRLRRRRRLRL
3<->5: RRRRLLLRRLLLLLRLLRRRLLRRL
3<->6: RLLRRRLLRRLRRRRLLLRRLLLLL
3<->7: RLRRLRRLLRLRRRRRLRLLR
3<->8: LRLLRLRRLLRLRRRLRLLRR
3<->9: RRLRLLLRRLLLLRRLRRRLLRLRR
4<->5: RRRRLRRRLRLLRLLRLRLLLLRLLRL
4<->6: RRRRRLRRLRRLLLLRLLRRRLLLL
4<->7: LRRLRRLLRLRRRRRLRLLRR
4<->8: RRRLLRRLRRRRLLLRRLLLLLRLL
4<->9: RLRLLLRRLLLLRRLRRRLLRLRRR
5<->6: RRRRLRRLRRLLLLRLLRRRLLLLR
5<->7: RRRLLRRRLRLLLLRLRRLLLRLLR
5<->8: RRLLRLRRRRRLRLLRRLRRL
5<->9: RLLRRLLLRRLRRRRRLLRRRLLLL
6<->7: LRRRLRLLRRRLLRLRRRLLRRRRL
6<->8: RRRLLRRRRRLRRLLLRRLLRLLLL
6<->9: RRLRRLLRLRRRRRLRLLRRL
7<->8: LRRRRLLRRRLRLLRRRLLRLRRRL
7<->9: RRRRLLRRRLRLLRRRLLRLRRRLL
8<->9: RRRLLLRRRRRLRRLLRRLLLRLLL
Also, here is one of the 17 start positions which require a minimum of 23 moves to be completed (one move being one click):
- 5 - 1 -
3 - 5 - 1
6 - 4 - 2
- 6 - 4 -
Here is one of the 98 start positions which require a minimum of 16 moves to be completed (one move being pressing 'L', 'R', 'Shift'+'R' or 'Shift'+'L' on Soultaker's The King's Challenge page):
- 5 - 1 -
6 - 5 - 1
6 - 4 - 3
- 2 - 4 -
Finally, here is one of the 1949 start positions which require a minimum of 10 moves to be completed (one move being a free rotation of one of the disk):
- 6 - 1 -
5 - 4 - 1
4 - 5 - 2
- 6 - 3 -
PS: @Soultaker: Your script is very nice. Congrat!
It was Machinarium-You did it to unlock a safe and get the grapple gun.
Where is it? I have all 33 solved and a rank of "Puzzle Agent!" but I don't see anywhere to access this puzzle.
You need a perfect on every puzzle to unlock it.