First glimpse at the german dub
Following gamesload.de giving Culture Shock away to new members, some guy has posted a short glimpse on YouTube. I must say I'm not impressed, so here's hoping it sounds better when playing it yourself. The way the cutscene-music towards the end doesn't connect properly anymore is especially disappointing...
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Sam sounds like some kind of snob I'd say.
And Max voice actress showed much more enthusiasm in hit the road, or when she doese Bart Simpson. (She's just perfect for Bart)
And Jimmy Zweizahn??
then they'll surely call Harry Harry Maulwurfmann.
It's not so bad that I have bought the whole season before I knew, that there was going to be a german dubbed version after all, since now I found out, that I can really do without.
though I'd still like some german subtitles for my english version.
Edit: I also got the impression, that the voice actors didn't really know what the other person was saying or doing, before their sentens.
But I sometimes got that feeling in some other old adventures too.
Jean-Claude Donda seems to have got the crazy energy of the characters, whereas the German actors sound too... polite and calm.
Aw, I wish I could analyze MY Sam & Max. JoWood, why didn't you produce an Italian dubbing? Why?!?!? Oh, the shame, the shame...
...but now I'm used to Nowlin & Kasten and wouldn't want them replaced.
There have even been more then one.
I've never played the english version oft hit the road.
I woudn't have understand a word back then, when I got that game.
The german voice actors have been the same in hit the road, and I liked them.
I think if i wouldn't have played the game with the english voices already, then I probably wouldn't dislike the german voices that bad.
But some translations are really bad. And you don't even get, that Jimmy is throwing up that phone
now maybe I should get the english version of htr
it couldn't hurt (much)play.com have it for £8 and ship to germany (not sure if it free postage overseas but it could well be) and according to guybrush(no underscore)threepwood it works perfectly on vista so will work on xp without the need for ScummVm
:eek::eek::eek:
I already thought they can't manage to translate the jokes into german(e.g. you don't say "Ratte" to a traitor in germany) but this is... gruesome... absolutely horrible... I can't believe this is the same voice Sam had back 1993 in germany... The guy aged over the years...
And Max... well his voice is a little bit better than Max's, but not half as good as in the german hit the road, or even the english voice.
You also hear the voice actors don't have any enthusiasm.
"I wish I could unsee that"(lol) -> "Musste das sein? Hätt ich doch bloß nicht hingekuckt."...O.o
"You know I have the memory of a dried trout!" ->"Ich hab so viel Gedächtnis, wie ein halbes Pfund Stockfisch."...o.O
And what the crap is a "Indertatleidernaermusshierirgendwoindiesemraumsein"???:(
(@germanguys: Habt ihr gemerkt, wie schnell Sam das spricht? Der Synchronsprecher hatte KEINE Ahnung, was dieser Text zu bedeuten hat)
PS:
The whole first german minutes in the game:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7v34U9dRUY&NR=1
The translation is REALLY bad.
"Hey Schlappohr, dein Partner macht mich krank!"
-"Du sagtest etwas von Kopfweh..."
(it's like "Hey, Dog! Your partner makes me sick!"
-"You mentioned a headache.")
...sense? O.o
that's right, it's like the translators just tried to translate evry line and didn't know the whole plot.
And why is the name of the Bowlingboal Luise?
"Ich hab so viel Gedächtnis, wie ein halbes Pfund Stockfisch." is really not the worsed translation.
althoug in that case they could have just translated every word:
"Du weißt, ich habe das Gedächtnis einer getrockneten Forelle."
errr... why did they change the font?!
This is still a tiny problem in the Italian versions of the Bone games. The accented characters are there, but they're not clear enough. Accent is VERY important in some European languagues, it can even change the meaning of some words.
I'm pretty sure I'm gonna get this, though when it get's cheaper a bit, after all I've already got S1 from here.
I am too, it's cool to have the old voice actors back.
But from what I have seen,
I really liked the german dub of hit the road better.
But I gotta admit, that I really haven't seen much of the english version of HTR.
And of course, I haven't seen much of the german dub of season one.
Bur I don't think that Hans-Gerd sounds and acts like he did in HTR now.
Of course, this isn't the worsed dubbed game I've ever seen.
It's actually quite good compared to most other games.
Games are very often dubbed bad, here in Germany. (My opinion)
I am alway happy when they only feature german subtitles.
well after all it's up you, if you play it in german or english.
It's good to have that opportunity.
Some dialogues are very hard to get in the english version, if its not your native language,
especially Sams : Holy jumpin... whatever
and I didn't understand all of them.
So it's nice to be able to play it in german.
Are you serious about this? Especially in the last years German dubs of games were of astounding quality... though the LucasArts adventures started this, especially games like "Black Mirror", "Ankh", "The Moment of Silence" and "NiBiRu" clearly set a new standard for the German market (and revived the adventure genre along the way)...
(Don't have much time anymore, to play new games.)
The last german dubbed game I've played was Tron 2.0 and I didn't like the voice acting. I've never seen the english one though.
Metal Gear solid was dubbed very bad.
It's been funny how the guards where always lisping every time they said: Hää?.....Hää Fußspuren? (huh?....huh? footprints?)
They sounded so stupid that way, I really got to laugh at that when I first played the game.
I'm glad they didn't dub MGS2 and 3.
Unfortunately this "Hä?" in germany has exactly the same meaning as "Huh?" and some translators are so bad, they don't even know this.(I don't speak japanese but a few words and even I know this "Hä"-Stuff!)
ok, back to topic Sam&Max:
Sam&Max rulz!
Sam&Max english dubbed r0xx0rs!
Sam&Max german dubbed is kinda kewl, but not as good as english subbed!
...:D
About the voice actors, it's interesting to see how people feel about the same actors who played these characters 14 years ago. Makes me wonder if the reaction would have been the same if we'd cast the guys from Hit the Road as the English voice actors...
correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't "Huh?" an expression of surprise too?
as well as Hä?
well I'm sure "Hä?" is an expression of surprise.
I actually meant the word "Fußspuren" that sounded so stupid. Because the voice actor obviously had a speech defect and got a lisp.
I would have been extremely more excited but I love the current voices. What I'd really love to hear some day is some of the dialog from Freelance Police if they had gotten that far along in production. Which I think they did.
Sure, some of the jokes can´t be transported 1:1 to another language (Soda Poppers got renamed to Limo Lausers?) Boscos Inconvenience being renamed to Boscos-Null-Service-Shop which doesnt sound as weird imo and a few other little things every now and then.
About the Rat Thingy: Yeah, "Rat" is not associated with traitor that much, but imo it still works. If you´ve watched a few Mafia Flicks you might enjoy Sams "Wo ist die Ratte?", which kinda sounds like Robert De Niro speaking it, a bit more. Although in the Sam/Max/Rat Dialog the Rat says something like "aber ich sag nix" which sounds misplaced. I would have rather used "aus mir bekommt ihr keinen Piep raus" (you know the character being a rat and all
About "Patience is a hard razor to swallow" well, how would you have translated it? "You need a lot of patience for patience" is probably not the best solution i agree, but its hard to find alternates. But yeah, there is a joke going down the drain.
I havent played the german version that much (only Culture Shock a bit) because i have rather limited time at the moment, but its not as bad as some of you are trying to make it. I´ve seen much much worser dubs done on Hollywood Movies with a much larger budget.
With the original language to choose from you can´t go wrong with buying the european DVD from Jowood, but the german dub somehow feels good too.
Job well done.
It's not easy, but I got a few suggestions
"Geduld bedeutet eine scharfe Rasierklinge zu schlucken"
"Geduld schluckt sich wie eine scharfe Rasierklinge" (probably the best one)
"Geduld ist eine zu schluckende scharfe Rasierklinge"
"Geduld ist als wolle man eine scharfe Rasierklinge schlucken"
Ok most of them aren't that good. But I still think the second one is better then "Für Geduld braucht man ganz schön Geduld"
But you're right, there are much worse dubs.
Well first we need to determine the meaning of the sentence:
"Patience is a sharp razor to swallow"
For me it basically means "Patience is a virtue" or "Geduld ist eine Tugend" its just far more over the top.
I would basically use one of these:
Geduld ist eine rasiermesserscharfe Tugend die sich in deinem Hals festsetzt, kleiner Freund.
Geduld ist eine rasiermesserscharfe Tugend, kleiner Freund.
Geduld kratzt in deinem Hals wie eine Rasierklinge, kleiner Freund.
The Problem is that "swallowing" is not used this way in the german language. iE there are other terms like "Swallow your pride" etc.
I don't think it really means Patience is a virtue
OK in some ways it does.
But I think it's more like "To be patient isn't much fun" or "It's hard to be patient"
Like badwolf said
Swollowing really isn't used (much) in germany like in your example (Though if you translate it too "schlucke deinen Stolz" people would understand what is meant)
But Sam dosen't say somethimg like "swollow your patience"
It's more like a comparison... Patience "feels" like swollowing a sharp razor.
Maybe someone should start an interpretation topic.:D
A good bet would be this: "Geduld .. sie ist wie das Kratzen einer Rasierklinge in deinem Hals" but that sounds pretty harsh in my opinion. I think its not ment to be that brutal, but on the other hand, hey .. its Sam & Max.
Any other phrases open for discussion? It´s a good way to have Sam & Max doing something educational.
yeah, it's an interesting topic and it's fun to come up with your own Ideas.
I've only seen the videos, that where posted here, so I don't know any other phrases that should get a better translation.
But: "Just you, me and the authority of seven states. But those where quieter times" shouldn't be translatet too "Nur du, ich und die Polizei von sieben Bundesstaate. Und das war der ruhige Teil"
The first sentence is OK. But the second one shoud be "Aber das waren ruhigere Zeiten."