I loved PN2! I feel it still needs something

First of all I loved the improvements over the first Poker Night. How characters can be more random instead of knowing what they're going to do based on the first two seconds of their lines. Having percentages on the showdowns are a really nice touch for the uninitiated and mentioning the kickers adds some much needed professionalism.

The first Poker Night game seemed to have three players who were wacko (not really a bad thing). I felt with more intelligent players that not only the small talk was more mature, but the whole game just reflected that it matured as a series. Overall, Great JOB! Please tell us all that you'll keep this series alive!


Here's a few small changes that I hope will be considered either in a patch or a sequel.

-Conversations happen slightly less often. Make them also act like an MP3 player on shuffle. (Random conversations each happen only once until all have been played. Then the process repeats.)

-Once all conversations have been played once, unlock the ability to toggle them off or enable skipping. (Announced at the beginning of the next tournament just like how the bounty challenges were unlocked.)

-Ability to use tokens to reroll a single bounty challenge.

-After getting the final bounty item, keep things interesting and allow characters to mix up their tells and play styles. (Example:
Maybe Brock starts to slam his hand on the table just to throw you off. Ash taps his hand on the table to show he's ready to play a good hand. Sam starts to play aggressively and continues to blame Max's influence.
)

-If there's another Poker Night ever in the works, you guys could put in more than just four guys to play against. Randomly select four of any number of people to play with.

-How about a woman who plays poker? Currently both Poker Night games have been sausage fests (good ones though).

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  • edited April 2013
    -How about a woman who plays poker? Currently both Poker Night games have been sausage fests (good ones though).
    What, GLaDoS doesn't count? :p
  • ProfanityProfanity Banned
    edited April 2013
    It's really hard to find an actually interesting woman in the game industry, with an interesting and funny personality that can go solo, meaning that she wouldn't have to rely on being interesting through the actual hero. Like Alyx through Gordon.

    I guess Morrigan from Dragon Age could fit the setting. Then there's of course the all-popular cult classics like Lara Croft, but I have a feeling that should would fall flat just like Ash did in this one.

    Then there's GLaDOS, but she's already in this one. Who else... I don't even know, too many good female characters are too closely tied to some protagonist male and most games that include women at all usually are going for this.
  • edited April 2013
    either Momma Bosco or I don't know what other Telltale female character, the Administrator (TF2), Aeris (VG Cats), the Queen of Blades (Sarah Kerrigan from the Starcraft series), hey, we can even stretch it to Zone-Tan (from that porn parody animator Zone-Sama), heck, Oglaf (not linking to it, it's very NSFW) has a lot of recurring female characters, like the Mistress, Navaan (a very interesting character) or Greir (although she most likely doesn't know what is fun), and if Telltale's got money to spend we could get Harley Quinn.

    EDIT: Let me list off characters, you can take a pick which would be interesting:
    • Momma Bosco
    • Cybil
    • The Administrator
    • Alyx Vance
    • Morgan LeFlay
    • Aeris (VG Cats)
    • Sarah Kerrigan, the Queen of Blades (Starcraft)
    • Zone-Tan
    • Navaan (Oglaf)
    • Greir (Oglaf)
    • Harley Quinn
    • Rosangela Blackwell (Blackwell series)
    • Buffy Summers
    • Turanga Leela
    • Velma Dinkley (I mean, why not?)
    • Lola Bunny (seriously, why not?)
  • edited April 2013
    Gran'ma Ben (Bone)
    The Voodoo Lady (Monkey Island)
    Carmelita Fox (Sly Cooper)
    Mallory Archer (Archer)
    Cate Archer (No One Lives Forever...oh, am I the only one who remembers those games? :( )
    Veronica Mars (hey, there's a movie coming out - cross promotion!)
  • edited April 2013
    Carmelita Fox (Sly Cooper)

    This would be great but it would need Sly himself making some cameos and jokes :D
  • edited April 2013
    Multiplayer and characters who can appear if you use 1000 tokens. But the character is random and the character disapears after you get the character's bounty. Or, you can buy the character you want for one dollar and select him from a player menu. Multiplayer uses tf2 characters with select-able lines
  • edited April 2013
    Profanity wrote: »
    It's really hard to find an actually interesting woman in the game industry, with an interesting and funny personality that can go solo, meaning that she wouldn't have to rely on being interesting through the actual hero. Like Alyx through Gordon.

    I guess Morrigan from Dragon Age could fit the setting. Then there's of course the all-popular cult classics like Lara Croft, but I have a feeling that should would fall flat just like Ash did in this one.

    Then there's GLaDOS, but she's already in this one. Who else... I don't even know, too many good female characters are too closely tied to some protagonist male and most games that include women at all usually are going for this.
    Of course, the reason for this is the sexist way games are developed. Female protagonists are looked down upon so much by the industry that many games that outright try to have a female main character(as in, the playable character) are refused publishers. There's all kinds of sexism involved in game making.

    With that said: Alyx Vance, as one of the single best female characters in any video game(given that she's actually her own person as opposed to being there to service the male lead in giving him a woman as a reward for his heroism) would be an excellent choice for Valve's PNatI3 character.
  • edited April 2013
    Don't forget the original Telltale Texas Hold'em game has a woman in it. ;)
  • edited April 2013
    But she's OOOOOOOLLLLLLD. Seriously, by now she must be canonically dead.
  • edited April 2013
    Great suggestions everyone. I feel that the best characters are ones who have a touch of craziness to them. If their traits are emphasized I'm sure any character could do just fine. Personally I felt at home with Ash, he didn't feel out of place to me like most people seem to have claimed. Just like many webcomics, not every single one needs to be super funny.

    Just because you could say Calvin and Hobbs is a heartwarming and funny comic strip as a whole, not every single strip within it is only that.

    BTW: Can you believe Ashley Williams was in Mass Effect?! (Lol) Anyhow, I think she could show some promise.
  • edited April 2013
    Profanity wrote: »
    It's really hard to find an actually interesting woman in the game industry, with an interesting and funny personality that can go solo, meaning that she wouldn't have to rely on being interesting through the actual hero.

    Depressing, isn't it? I mean, I know it's no news flash, but still.

    For the sake of conversation, two other potential players that I'd love to see in a game of poker:
    Rochelle or Zoey from the Left 4 Dead series.
    They'd definitely have a lot to say, considering they hail games with a ton of ingame conversation. I'd like to hear more from any of those characters, except friggin' Nick.

    Pam from Archer.
    I know Mallory was already mentioned, but a poker tournament does seem like Pam's kind of thing, and she'd be talking way more openly.


    And maybe Girl Stinky. Not sure if she'd work as well in large doses.


    edit: come to think of it, i would pay $5 just to watch Brock and Pam playing high stakes poker against one another.
  • ProfanityProfanity Banned
    edited April 2013
    Kyronea wrote: »
    Of course, the reason for this is the sexist way games are developed. Female protagonists are looked down upon so much by the industry that many games that outright try to have a female main character(as in, the playable character) are refused publishers. There's all kinds of sexism involved in game making.

    With that said: Alyx Vance, as one of the single best female characters in any video game(given that she's actually her own person as opposed to being there to service the male lead in giving him a woman as a reward for his heroism) would be an excellent choice for Valve's PNatI3 character.

    That shit is true and blown the hell out of proportion at the same time. I've heard the word "sexism" used so much this past year and a half by bandwagoning idiots, I can't even look at it seriously, outside the context of actual troubles politically and physically.

    Anyway, Alyx Vance seems horribly boring and not very good as a female character either. Gordon doesn't talk, so she'll plugging a whole loads of his exploits, because they're way more interesting. They might have been going on the same adventures, but she's still the sidekick. And I doubt Valve is gonna let Telltale make up their own story of what she did when she wasn't running alongside Gordy. Alyx would get reaaally interesting without relying on Kleiner's goofiness or Gordon's deeds after the point, at which Valve halted the Half Life series. I ain't gonna spoil the series, but those who have played them should understand.
  • edited April 2013
    Did anyone miss the fact that the Administrator from TF2 is also still very much alive? I mean, Portal and Team Fortress 2 so far are the only games so far with interesting female characters that are voiced, and coincidentally both of these interesting characters are voiced by the same person.

    Also, there are plenty of interesting female characters. I mean, sure, Telltale doesn't have a lot themselves, but there are some characters with potential at Telltale's side. I mean, Momma Bosco is one of those characters.

    And why do we always look at video games? It's not like Venture Brothers had a video game that is of note, or that Army of Darkness had a lot of them. You people are seriously limiting your scopes here. I mean, why else would I name the likes of Harley Quinn, VG Cats Aeris or even characters from some pseudo-erotic parody comedy comic? Because they are also possibilities.

    I mean, we've got a whole treasure of female characters that are far more interesting than those in the video game industry, and it's not like video games don't have interesting female characters. Take for example Capcom, they have at least two. I mean, you have Trish and Tron Bonne. I mean, we could also just get Etna from the Disgaea series. Maybe NIS wouldn't be too difficult to allow such a cross-over.
  • edited May 2013
    Yeah, the PS3 version needs something... a patch to make it run properly.
  • edited May 2013
    Profanity wrote: »
    That shit is true and blown the hell out of proportion at the same time. I've heard the word "sexism" used so much this past year and a half by bandwagoning idiots, I can't even look at it seriously, outside the context of actual troubles politically and physically.

    Not to argue or anything, but I think this really does need to be bandwagoned to hell and back. I don't care if it involves idiots or not, the entire industry needs to stop simply acknowledging the problem and deal with it.

    The medium as a whole is just embarrassingly, unacceptably adolescent, and the very few exceptions stick out like a sore thumb simply for not objectifying half the entire damned population. Remember when Borderlands 2 made news simply for having that Ellie character?

    The video game industry is larger than film now. It was never okay, but it's pretty important that they knock this shit off immediately. If that means the constant watch of bandwagoning ragecomic-creators overreacting to every little thing, then that is an extremely tiny price to pay. I agree it can get annoying, but these discussions and arguments over whether New Vegas' Tabitha or Arkham City's Catwoman are sexist are necessary if any real, widespread change is going to happen, including "Gamer Girl" as a qualifier, or the fact that you need the right set of genitals to be able to use your mic in many games.
  • ProfanityProfanity Banned
    edited May 2013
    wellgolly wrote: »
    The video game industry is larger than film now. It was never okay, but it's pretty important that they knock this shit off immediately. If that means the constant watch of bandwagoning ragecomic-creators overreacting to every little thing, then that is an extremely tiny price to pay. I agree it can get annoying, but these discussions and arguments over whether New Vegas' Tabitha or Arkham City's Catwoman are sexist are necessary if any real, widespread change is going to happen, including "Gamer Girl" as a qualifier, or the fact that you need the right set of genitals to be able to use your mic in many games.
    Is it really larger than film? I dunno about that.

    I object to any kind of censorship. So while acknowledging the problem is all good well, what really pisses me off when they try to dictate how things should be done or how they should not be done in the creative process. That's what kind of shit should be knocked off immediately and forever.

    And no, it's not a tiny price to pay, because those bloody bandwagoning idiots trivialize sexism, they have drowned out the actual people who fight for equality with their projectile-vomiting and in half of the cases - white knighting. If they accomplish one thing, it will be that people will take the problem less seriously. Not to mention that a whole lot of them tend to mix up equality with superiority, so they end up being as ignorant as the people they're "fighting".

    All these people fighting for something they don't fully understand and completely misrepresenting it in the process- as long as it's the popular thing to back up right now- is just fucking filthy.
  • edited May 2013
    Since there is a rumour that TTG recently bought the rights to Day of the Tentacle, how about Laverne from DOTT? She's just the right kind of crazy to fit in well too.

    For those that don't know who the character is, firstly Shame on you! Secondly, take a look on youtube for the DOTT hamster in the microwave scene
  • ProfanityProfanity Banned
    edited May 2013
    Gincairn wrote: »
    Since there is a rumour that TTG recently bought the rights to Day of the Tentacle, how about Laverne from DOTT? She's just the right kind of crazy to fit in well too.

    For those that don't know who the character is, firstly Shame on you! Secondly, take a look on youtube for the DOTT hamster in the microwave scene

    Whaaaaaaaaaaaat? Where did you hear that rumor?
  • edited May 2013
    Profanity wrote: »
    Whaaaaaaaaaaaat? Where did you hear that rumor?

    It popped up on Appy Gamer when the whole of Lucas Arts games division was shut down by Disney, annoyingly I can't find the damn story now, which puts me in an awkward position of not being able to back up my original statement.

    It's times like this that I hate the internet. . .

    EDIT: After doing some more searching, it turns out it was a puff-piece by CVG stating who they would LIKE the lucasarts games to go to.

    Sorry for the confusion.

    (Now I'm all depressed, thought it was a sure thing :( )
  • ProfanityProfanity Banned
    edited May 2013
    Shit, man. Now I need a drink.
  • edited May 2013
    Profanity wrote: »
    It's really hard to find an actually interesting woman in the game industry, with an interesting and funny personality that can go solo, meaning that she wouldn't have to rely on being interesting through the actual hero. Like Alyx through Gordon.

    I guess Morrigan from Dragon Age could fit the setting. Then there's of course the all-popular cult classics like Lara Croft, but I have a feeling that should would fall flat just like Ash did in this one.

    Then there's GLaDOS, but she's already in this one. Who else... I don't even know, too many good female characters are too closely tied to some protagonist male and most games that include women at all usually are going for this.

    The mechromancer girl from borderlands 2 was pretty funny and psycho. I know they already have claptrap, but it is a girl that will add humor. And it doesn't have to be a gaming girl. Brock is from a tv show, not a game. How about Tsunade from Naruto? Shes a gambler and she does have her own funny moments.
  • edited May 2013
    First of all I loved the improvements over the first Poker Night. How characters can be more random instead of knowing what they're going to do based on the first two seconds of their lines. Having percentages on the showdowns are a really nice touch for the uninitiated and mentioning the kickers adds some much needed professionalism.

    The first Poker Night game seemed to have three players who were wacko (not really a bad thing). I felt with more intelligent players that not only the small talk was more mature, but the whole game just reflected that it matured as a series. Overall, Great JOB! Please tell us all that you'll keep this series alive!


    Here's a few small changes that I hope will be considered either in a patch or a sequel.

    -Conversations happen slightly less often. Make them also act like an MP3 player on shuffle. (Random conversations each happen only once until all have been played. Then the process repeats.)

    -Once all conversations have been played once, unlock the ability to toggle them off or enable skipping. (Announced at the beginning of the next tournament just like how the bounty challenges were unlocked.)

    -Ability to use tokens to reroll a single bounty challenge.

    -After getting the final bounty item, keep things interesting and allow characters to mix up their tells and play styles. (Example:
    Maybe Brock starts to slam his hand on the table just to throw you off. Ash taps his hand on the table to show he's ready to play a good hand. Sam starts to play aggressively and continues to blame Max's influence.
    )

    -If there's another Poker Night ever in the works, you guys could put in more than just four guys to play against. Randomly select four of any number of people to play with.

    -How about a woman who plays poker? Currently both Poker Night games have been sausage fests (good ones though).

    Maybe some dlc characters. I would love to see Carl and Master Shake from Aqua Teen Hunger Force in here. Especially Carl.
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