Ginger Guy Dilema [Pictures]
Excuse me , but .... Wuuuut is going on , why is he there ? (In the Chasing-Dee scene)
In case you don't recognize him , I'm talking about this guy : (Meeting him down the hallway with Snow)
I managed to find our Ginger Buddy in another shot. Seems he's following Bigby everywhere. Do we need more evidence ?
As you can see he has the exact same Hairstyle , so our buddy was the Taxi Driver too.
If you visited the forum lately , you'll know a lot of people have suspicions about this guy , and I agree. Now I'm not saying he's the killer , but he definitely has something to do with this whole thing , I'm telling you !
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Was he also in line with Grendel and one other random guy when Bixby went to meet Snow and Crane?
I think he's definitely involved, there's no reason for him to be in that many scenes otherwise. Maybe he overheard something because the walls in that building were paper thin like Snow said, and is trying to figure out what's going on?
Someone posted yesterday that his name was Flycatcher, he was the Frog Prince and would never hurt anyone or something along those lines. If there's any truth to that then isn't gonna be a bad guy.
Good thing you mentioned. I just checked and Yes he was. Right after Bigby investigates the head , Him and Snow go to the Business Office (2nd floor) and Ginger's also there waiting in line (though it's kind of odd that he's not the first in the line ... he's the second).
Well I guess we know where he was going when we first met him.
Fly Catcher - F. Catcher , that's the same name of the person whose apartment is near Bigby's (2nd floor)
You could be right.
That's definitely not Flycatcher.
Hard to say exactly what's going on with this guy. I was suspicious when Bigby and Snow passed him in the hallway. The way they paused on him just seemed a little off. But after seeing him show up throughout the game, I don't know if they're implying that he's following Bigby around everywhere or if TellTale is just reusing the same character model every time they need an extra. I mean, if he really is some kind of bad guy, why is he hanging out in some random hallway that Bigby just happened to be chasing Dee through?
I kind of liked the suggestion in the suspect thread that this could be a glamour used by the Headless Horseman. He's got orange hair like a pumpkin, get it? Yeah, it's a bit of a stretch, but I thought it was clever.
Headless Horseman ... hmm that could work , decapitating people seems like his M.O.
And I doubt Telltale is using the same character model when they need an extra , I mean ... really it's not that hard to make a 3D model.
For reference, this is what Flycatcher looks like:
Hmm... How intimidating does Ginger-Whoever-He-Is look? Not very. It seems rougher looking characters seem fairly rough, even with their Glamours (i.e. Grendel & Holly). Plus Toad was talking about the results being lesser and lesser, while going up in price. So if The Horseman was being cloaked...he'd probably look like a pretty mean dude. Pure speculation...and it might make an interesting swerve for the harmless looking redhead to be vicious and sadistic.
You played The Walking Dead right ? Didn't the cannibals from Episode 2 seem harmless at the beginning as well ? They did .... and look how things turned up. This is Telltale , where nothing is certain , so don't let it loose on the Ginger Guy. He's a devil inside i tell you haha
He was also the cab driver when you last see Snow. Something's very suspicious....
That's correct , I just realized it and updated my first post
Well the list of people is quite large, this is already heating up after just one episode.
Grimble was the sleeping security in the hall when Bigby first returned to Woodlands, had a name plate and Snow used his jacket to cover the head later.
F Catcher was mentioned if you examined the Armor in the hall, he was also mentioned when Snow talked to Toad's son. The two incidents implied that Catcher was familiar with both Bigby and Snow. But there's no sign suggesting that Snow or Bigby knew the ginger guy.
Yeah, this guy isn't Flycatcher or Grimble. As you pointed out, Grimble is the security guard. See my earlier post for a comparison to Flycatcher. This guy looks nothing like him.
Now, if you want to analyze what he had been doing on the second floor, it could be that he was going to one of their apartments (with or without their knowledge). Or, more likely, he was going to one of the offices. We do see him outside the business office later that day. Although I suspect that perhaps we're just reading too much into it and there wasn't any particular reason for him to be on the second floor at all other than to run into Bigby and Snow.
He definitely does not look like Flycatcher to me. Fly never dresses like that, he's generally in his janitor's uniform or in something extremely casual. Also, Fly is very well-known to both Bigby and Snow, and they would not have passed him so many times without acknowledging him. I have no idea who this guy is, he doesn't seem to be in line with anyone from the comics. I did notice kind of an unusual pattern on his tie, but I have no pic. In the Fables universe, little clues as to who the characters are are often given in the details of their clothing, tattoos, or things like that. (For example, Snow's snowflake patterned shirt in the game, Flycatcher's frog hat in the comics, and so on). Maybe it's nothing, but like I said, I did notice it.
Telltale has a way of fooling the entire community, or atleast a majority of it. Some of us may say "I KNEW IT ALL ALONG" but chances are they fooled you too. I woudn't think too much into this. chances are. we'll all be wrong by episode 5
That dude is really mysterious. I've made a list of scenes where we can spot him
-In the beggining of the game when we first see Tenement building. He's walking across the street.
-In the Hallway with snow.
-In line near Crane's Office
-In the Dee's chase scene.
-Bigby's and Snow's Taxi driver.
In my opinion he can't be the killer. He doesnt look like he could kill someone. He is into something but he didnt do it. Also remember that the fabric that we found after seeing Faith's head was jeans. He doesnt wear those.
here is a good picture of him that @fenrod posted
you can see on his tie he has a cane or a crook this could be related to whatever fable he is without his glamor
That's the pic! Thanks for posting it.
I've been racking my brain trying to think of male characters from folklore that would have anything to do with a crook or a cane, and I can't come up with any.
He's like the G-Man from Half-Life.....
what if he was a shepherd and he has a vendetta against Bigby because he ate all his sheep :0
edit: just did a little research and he could be the shepherd who cried wolf http://www.taleswithmorals.com/aesop-fable-the-sheperds-boy.htm
the heads/murders could be fake so that when an actual real head/murder turns up nobody will believe it is real
LOL!
But, come to think of it. The Boy Who Cried Wolf was a shepherd boy, right? And the wolf came and ate his sheep? You could be on to something, hehe.
bigby could be "the sheriff who cried serial killer"
Hmm... Interesting theory. Works with the revealed episode titles too. Episode 3 is "A Crooked Mile." Episode 4 is "In Sheep's Clothing." And Episode 5 is "Cry Wolf." All of which could be references to a shepherd or to the "Boy Who Cried Wolf" story.
That I did. (Loved it!) Wellll...to a degree..The rifle-obsessed brother seemed suspicious from the get go to me. And I do think that's one of the high/low points of the series, because it was so well done. You're very right! All the logic can't apply for all the characters by any means, or it'd be boring and predictable.
This actually sounds like a really promising theory. The Shepard's goal might be to stir Bigby into a frenzy and cause him to be alienated from the community and at odds with some of the more powerful figures of Fabletown (Bluebeard, Ichabod Crane, etc). Then, just when Bigby thinks he's apprehended the killer, the "murders" will be revealed to be faked and Bigby will be discredited, causing everyone to turn against him. Ultimately, he'll frame Bigby for something and try to get him thrown into the Witching Well, discredited and alone just like he was.
EDIT: Also, maybe the more you scare the people around you throughout the episodes, the less people will vouch for you in the end.
boy it is the shephered he must really hates bigby guts to hold a grudge against him then couldn't person let it go and let bygones be bygones
This really is beginning to sound plausible if the tie is indeed some sort of clue as to his identity. Especially given the titles of the episodes (good catch!) I think there is a reason why the first episode includes a lot of conversation about how the fables still hate and fear Bigby for the things he did in the past. So, maybe this is about someone who has some old grudge with him.
If they were meaning to re-use his character models for extras...why would they use his exact same clothes? Telltale isn't that lazy.
This guy is definitely involved!!!
looks like we solved it, arrest this man for having a tie with a shepherds crook on it and for being near cimes quite often
The problem I have if he really is supposed to be involved is that he's being way too obvious about it. Anyone who's read "Legends in Exile" knows that Bigby is pretty darn observant. There's absolutely no way he wouldn't have spotted this guy. And again, if he is following Bigby, why would he be in the hallway when Bigby is chasing Dee? Was he just hanging out there on the off chance that Bigby might be chasing a bad guy down that random hallway? There's no way he could have known that Bigby would be there. All of which lends credibility to the theory that it's just some extra model that TellTale reused whenever they needed a background character.
Although I have to admit that I do like the shepherd boy theory.
I did think about how sloppy he'd have to be if he is involved. Always underfoot and all. Or maybe he is just extremely clever by hiding in plain sight. Lol
It's possible that he actually WANTS to be suspected by Bigby.
Maybe his plan is to eventually have Bigby get into a huge confrontation with him in front of a bunch of the other fables. He'll get Bigby to snap and rough him up a little, all the while playing the victim and cowering in front of "The Big Bad Wolf."
Then, just as Bigby goes to arrest him, it'll be revealed that all the murders were faked and/or some conclusive evidence will come out showing that someone else was responsible for the crimes. All the other fables will see this as Bigby harassing an innocent man after failing to conduct a proper investigation. He'll lose all credibility and possibly be stripped of his badge. And that's when the real plan kicks in.
I still have no idea why he'd be in the Dee-chasing scene though...
Yeah , the Dee-chasing scene bothers me the most. Like .. I get that he was the taxi driver , or waiting around the Business Office ,but how did he get in that place ? Bigby wasn't even there yet ! How could he know he'd go through there ?
Now when I think of it he reminds me of Herge (The creator of Tintin) When he drew Tintin he made himself appear at lots of places in each album.
Here is from the latest animated movie.
Here he is IRL, the same haircut, and he also has the same haircolour.
Would have been fun flavour to do a thing like that, but it has nothing to do with Fables, so I guess I'm wrong! :P
Still, why wouldn't Bigby mention it sooner? I mean, okay. I guess seeing him outside the business office isn't that big a deal. It's the same building you saw him in a few hours earlier. Maybe he just never left. Bigby probably noted it but just didn't have any reason to say anything about it. Then you see him in the hallway. Alright. Maybe you could make the argument that Bigby had his hands full with Dee, so he either didn't notice the guy or, more likely, just didn't have time to do anything about it. But when he sees the same guy again in the cab, why wouldn't he say or do something about it then? Sure, he might not have any evidence to arrest the guy. But he'd know something was up. And Bigby's not exactly subtle either. At the very least, he should have gotten Snow another cab, not left her alone with the guy who had been following him around all day.
Of course, it's also entirely possible that the guy is just some cab driver from Fabletown who simply has an unfortunate tendency to show up in the wrong place at the wrong time.
I'm sure that this guy is involved in the murders somehow but the only thing that remains to be discovered is why.I've read many theories about this and they were all good and coherent.I think that it's also pretty obvious that someone has something against Bigby because both victims were in contact with him and he loved them (mostly snow).And the last time we get to see Snow is in the taxi and it's also at that moment that you can really feel that there is something going on between her and Bigby.And the ginger guy heard everything they said as he was the taxi driver.
Well...they did do exactly that with zombies in the Walking Dead all the time.
Good job. I also have a good feeling about the connection between the ginger guy and the boy who cried wolf. Maybe it's time for TellTale to panic.
I think he is involved, but I dont think he is the murderer. His cloth dont match the piece of fabric that you find. The next question is the blood trail. Most likely the killer injured himself when he was trying to jump over the fence, this guy didnt seem to be injured when you met him in the building...