Who the killer is

edited June 2014 in The Wolf Among Us

Faith isn't dead, and she's the killer.

Okay, so “Faith’s” head in episode 1. She had a ribbon and a ring in her mouth. Why?

Well, if the first victim wasn’t Faith, it’s pretty easy to explain.

The ring was there to identify the head as Faith’s. Bigby didn’t know her name, and Faith knew that. If she glamoured someone to look like her, then killed them to fake her death, it would all be for nothing if nobody knew who this dead chick was. She needed to put some form of identification on the head to seal the deal and get herself marked as "deceased" in the books.

So what about the ribbon? In the latest episode, we learned that removing the ribbon slices the person’s head off. But if Faith is alive, she couldn’t just put her ribbon in the victim’s mouth, right? It’d kill her. So maybe she put Lily’s ribbon in the victim’s mouth instead (which would actually make Lily the first victim chronologically, and would also explain Faith's motive for killing her.)

But why put a ribbon in their mouth in the first place? To mislead Bigby. I doubt the first victim was working at the Pudding and Pie, so they couldn’t have been killed by removing a ribbon. Instead, I think they were killed with Woody’s axe, which was stolen from him before Bloody Mary got it from the Lucky Pawn. We saw Faith attack Woody with it, so she definitely knows how to use it.

So if Faith is alive and the killer, then WHO was the first victim?

I think it was Mr. Toad. He needed a glamour, Faith had one. It probably seemed like a good deal until he got murdered and replaced by a glamoured Faith. Think about it: whenever Bigby is questioning Toad, he’s always especially cagey. He took Faith's donkeyskin coat. He’s always going on about how expensive glamours are, which is a pretty good cover for him already being glamoured.

So yeah. Faith killed two people so that she could go into hiding, like she did as “the donkeyskin girl”, and poor TJ is in for one hell of a surprise.

Comments

  • If Lily was murdered first, who did Crane have his "massage" with, and where did it happen?room.

  • I know who is the murderer

    SPOILER ALERT!!!

    Hans.

  • That would make for a shitty story since he isn't really a character. He's just a large attractive homo who has a couple of lines in one scene.

    I know who is the murderer SPOILER ALERT!!! Hans.

  • edited June 2014

    Faith. Lily wrote a note for Faith that said "thanks for covering for me tonight." She was supposed to be glamoured as Snow anyway, so fooling him would have been easy.

    Also, regardless of whether Faith is the killer or not, Crane's "massage" did not happen in room 207. Beauty insisted that nobody rented it that night.

    EDIT: Nevermind about the note, that was probably about Woody. But it still sets up Faith as probably being the last person Lily saw, and if Faith killed Lily when they met up, she'd have to fill in for Lily with Crane as well to avoid drawing attention to Lily's disappearance.

    xChryst posted: »

    If Lily was murdered first, who did Crane have his "massage" with, and where did it happen?room.

  • Frog is supposed to be alive in the comics till a certain point . At least the Mr.Frog part is inaccurate .

  • Mr. Toad appears in the comics...

  • A tombstone with his name appears in the comics, not he himself. We don't even know if he fought in the war. His body would have been buried at The Farm anyway since if it was dug up it'd be suspicious, or people'd claim it was an alien.

  • I`m sure we see a frog who looks like him a few times at the farm, but he has no lines.

    A tombstone with his name appears in the comics, not he himself. We don't even know if he fought in the war. His body would have been buried at The Farm anyway since if it was dug up it'd be suspicious, or people'd claim it was an alien.

  • Theoretically, that could work. Until you remember that Lily returned to her troll form after a while. If Faith's head wasn't Faith but was glamoured to look like her, then someone would've noticed her head revert later. Why would Faith, if she was the killer, chance that putting her back into the spotlight? It would have been easier for her to just torch the head and leave a burned human skull (or even a de-fleshed skull which frames the Butcher) with the ribbon and ring to avoid it reverting to the real head and giving her away.

    Also, women don't usually kill with weapons. If women kill, they do so more subtlety like with poison. You're suggesting Faith, as tiny as she was, had the strength to chop another person's head off. The cut wasn't jagged suggesting several strikes. It was one strike suggesting either someone who was really strong and accurate or it was the ribbon. Axes also are notoriously messy execution weapons often requiring 2-3 whacks to remove a head and that's for a good executioner. Could take many more for someone inexperienced. Anne Boleyn requested to be beheaded with a sword because she knew an axe would take several strikes. Faith was a human fable and a small woman. She wouldn't have the strength to cleave a person's vertebrae with one strike, magic axe or not. In the first episode, Faith put the axe in Woody's head. If she had the strength to take his head off, the axe would have gone down to his jaw, if not lower. The skull's not the thickest bone in the body and is rather thin when compared to other bones yet Faith barely got to the eye orbit. The brain is rather squishy and wouldn't cause much resistance and muscles on the top of the head are rather thin.

    It's not Faith.

  • There is still one major question: Why would Faith ever want to do this? To fake her death? Would she really be willing to kill two innocent people just to go undercover? Also, where did she get the money for the glamour? We already saw she was short on money, and the cheap black market glamours aren't good enough to hide something like an enchanted ribbon, so wouldn't we see a ribbon on Toad?

  • She wouldnt have many reasons, and she wouldnt hurt Lawrence like that.

    There is still one major question: Why would Faith ever want to do this? To fake her death? Would she really be willing to kill two innocent

  • It could just be a grown up Toad Jr. though.

    nusi2 posted: »

    I`m sure we see a frog who looks like him a few times at the farm, but he has no lines.

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