It's Lee all over again
Rodrik is dead, people. How would he still be alive, like seriously? Don't you think the Freys would make sure he's dead? After all, he has earned a title in battle, and was supposedly feared by his enemies.
We all know the Red Wedding ends with the death of the King of the North, and the destruction of his army. So the battle is lost in the end. I don't think someone would bother to drag a fully armed man through a crowd of fighting people.
Rodrik is a goner. Remember the 1 billion threads about Lee being alive? Well, this is the exact same thing. Except that Rodrik didn't even have a line, so I don't know why so many people want him back.
If Rodrik is alive, I would seriously disappointed in Telltale, because that would go against all logic.
btw who do you think sent the family the letters of their family members being dead? Whoever did knew they were dead.
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I kind of hope hes dead too. Him surviving would destroy any infighting. He'll take over the house, asher won have to rule etc
How they will explain it? Idk but with the shadow of the mystery character looking a lot like him and the fact that Rodrik was advertised with the other main characters and did not get a single line of dialogue and was gone within the first 10-15 minutes leads many of us to believe his story is not done yet.
I mean lets be honest. The fact that Gared escaped the two Frey soldiers who cut down Lord Forrester when he was just a few yards away and they clearly saw him was a big enough "what?". I don't find it hard to believe rodrik escaped and if it turns out he is alive and playable (which of course may be not be the case) i'm sure telltale will explain it in a way that is no more unbelievable than Gared's escape.
The only reason why I think he could come back is because for a small company like TellTale it seems like a total waste of time and resources to create and render an original character for just the opening five minutes.
But then again, Lord Forrester also had a great design and he was killed off, so... Still, I don't know, seems like an enormous waste for them.
No, it's more like KENNY all over again. Remember when he seemed dead? Completely cornered without bullets. Yet he came back with an "I got lucky. Real lucky.".
I'm kind of hoping Rodrik is alive. We need a Lord Forrester, and Asher is, from what has been said, far too unstable.
Plus, no one is dead until their head is on a pike, or their body has been burned. Ask Ser Beric, guy has died what... 6 times?
But wouldn't it be more interesting scenario that Asher tries to take the place of lord even if he isn't the perfect man for it. If Rodrik comes back we have a perfect lord and that's a little boring if you ask me.
It might be. I am sure, based on the first episode, however they go about it will be interesting. The other thing though is that I am seeing Asher as my Avatar of Vengeance. Being the Lord of Ironrath would muzzle him, give him too many limits. He needs to be the answer to Ramsay. A loose cannon with an ax and the will to use it.
Let Rodrik come back and be the politician. Deal with all the niceties of office. Let Asher be the enforcer.
I feel that is part of the issue Asher (the player) will want to go a rampage but this could have negative implications
It depends.
He might well be a hostage of the Freys.
Also, potentially crippled. It'd be interesting to play a character with no working legs, for example, like Bran.
He also mysteriously found his way across the neck with no explanation.
Just like Robb killed Jaime and Walder killed the greatjon? No. The Freys took prisoners.
The battle didn't last long. He could have just been found after the battle unconscious but alive and seen as a worthy hostage.
Then surely they'd bring that up to Ethan etc. Whats the point of the hostage if they dont say they have him. Thats the whole reasons non of the Umbers do anything after that point. Its been long enough to start season 4's story so the word has spread about everything by this point
Dont get me wrong him coming back is a possibility I just really hope it dosnt happen
Well I suppose it's possible for one man to smuggle himself through the Neck, crannogmen might have helped him.
If Freys took him hostage why haven't they asked for ransom or otherwise tried to use him for some blackmailing? I mean if they don't mean to do that then they have no use for him at all = they can just kill him.
Kenny could potentially survive. Tyreese did it, Rick did it.
Lee was 100% dead because he was bit and didn't cut it off.
Someone needs to do Rodrik with Kenny's beard. You know, classic stuff.
Sounds more like Kenny all over again.
Sounds like more people believe Rodrik is alive rather than dead
I love it!
Kenny could potentially survive but it was extremely unlikely. Which is what's happening now with Rodrik. I, for one, would actually like Rodrik to come back :P
The difference is that Rodrick is important and has a possibility to be alive.
I would love a fight between Rodrick and Asher about who will become lord.
Doesn't matter how many people believe it if it's wrong :P
But whatever, we'll see.
You'll see.
Yes but she will most likely be forced into marriage quickly and her husband will take over.
Yes but she will most likely be forced into marriage quickly and her husband will take over.
I don't know much about Game of Thrones lore, but theoretically could a woman become head of house, if the male heirs all die?
Yes but she will most likely be forced into marriage quickly and her husband will take over.
Oh. That makes things easier then. I assumed they would give the lordship to duncan or royland.
I think Rodrick is alive. The questions you got asked as Gared about why he/Lord Forrester didn't save him were really oddly phrased for him not to be alive. And, when he "died" you just see him get stabbed in the leg and a horse fall on him he could easily have survived that and lived through the battle by being presumed dead.
Also the fifth playable character shadow is clearly him.
Yeah, if Ryon were to get his head removed, Mira could theoretically become ruler of the house, but she would almost certainly be married right away, and a different family would take control of Ironrath. Of course, there is also the possibility there of the disinherited heir, Asher, pressing his own claim to the lordship. It would all be very messy.
However, with Ryon now effectively the Lord of Ironrath, and with him a 'guest' of Lord Whitehill, the operations of the house will be taken over by the Sentinel, most likely, as Ryon's regent.
This also brings up another issue, should Ryon return. If you told him that he could have all the sweets he wants if he is Lord... kid might never leave the kitchen.
There is an exception to the rule, Dorne practices absolute primogeniture. So, if this had taken place in Dorne, Mira would have ascended as ruler of the house before Ethan, and would have retained her power.
There's not going to be a fight between Rodrik and Asher though. If Rodrik is alive, that's it, he's the first son, raised to rule and a natural fighter. He's the perfect Lord. As the younger of the two, Asher has no claim to the seat. In a certain dialogue tree, Ethan questions his mother about Asher becoming Lord and she claims that he has very little interest in it. So why would Asher ever challenge his older brother?
In GRRM's world, no one is dead until you see their ashes, literally. In the books it's quite common seeing someone who supposedly perished walking and breathing like it never happened. Just a tip.
Yes, if all the sons die the daughters take over, though once married there influence can fade, Furthermore mothers sometimes rule for their children if they are very young. Oh and in Dorne its simply who is oldest so daughters can rule first if they are oldest