Yes and that is a sad thing. Still it's no excuse for all the sick and evil things he does, if his bastard blood and bad childhood rules out him being a better and healthier human being then it's better that someone kills him already.
edit: oh, btw Ramsay is not child of incest, just bastard.
Yes and that is a sad thing. Still it's no excuse for all the sick and evil things he does, if his bastard blood and bad childhood rules out… more him being a better and healthier human being then it's better that someone kills him already.
edit: oh, btw Ramsay is not child of incest, just bastard.
Jack Gleeson is a scholar. He's won awards. Apparently, he's brilliantly smart. I think I read that he's going to become a professor or something. I respect that.
Ah no. This is what Jack Glasson said on quitting acting:
"The answer isn’t interesting or long-winded. I’ve been acting since age 8. I j… moreust stopped enjoying it as much as I used to.
"And now there’s the prospect of doing it for a living, whereas up until now it was always something I did for recreation with my friends, or in the summer for some fun. I enjoyed it. When you make a living from something, it changes your relationship with it. It’s not like I hate it, it’s just not what I want to do."
And for future plans: "I don’t know. Yeah. No idea. I have one year left in college. After that, I might do a post-graduate of some kind, but I don’t know in what."
So yeah he has gone back to study. We just not sure if this perment or taking a break.
No, they didn't fail. Anyone would look like a bitch, as you say, under horrific torture. Let's see you get flayed, beaten senseless, get held down and have your man parts cut off and not crack. And thats not to mention the psychological torture Ramsay put him through.
I think in this case it is black and white. Book Ramsay has no redeeming values whatsoever. He's even physically repulsive. Even his horrible father thinks he's a monster.
It's GoT. There is no black and white.
Ofcourse Ramsay is a torturer, a sadist and all in all not a fun fellow to be around. But in the lon… moreg run he is just a bastard boy looking for his fathers approval by continuing on the flayed mans legacy.
Same with Joffrey, he is all the bad things people call him. But in the end he was just a boy who was told he could do everything he wanted.
I don't say i'd be better in his position, but the show just fails to make me feel simpathetic towards Theon. He was a little cunt before, and is a little cunt after becoming Reek.
I felt no simpathy for him, nor felt sorry for what happened to him. The only reaction I had when watching his capture is "meh, the little bitch deserves it"
No, they didn't fail. Anyone would look like a bitch, as you say, under horrific torture. Let's see you get flayed, beaten senseless, get he… moreld down and have your man parts cut off and not crack. And thats not to mention the psychological torture Ramsay put him through.
Yeah I heard that he was a scholar and professor is respectable, but don't assume he is going to be one. unless you did read it somewhere don't assume he will be one.
Jack Gleeson is a scholar. He's won awards. Apparently, he's brilliantly smart. I think I read that he's going to become a professor or something. I respect that.
Yeah I heard that he was a scholar and professor is respectable, but don't assume he is going to be one. unless you did read it somewhere don't assume he will be one.
Sorry no it sounded like you were assuming. Ok so he has retied for good. I can't say I blame him, I just hope he doesn't blame himself for all the hateful comments he heard from fans.
Sorry no it sounded like you were assuming. Ok so he has retied for good. I can't say I blame him, I just hope he doesn't blame himself for all the hateful comments he heard from fans.
Shes dead in the books. And he DID love her actually. She raised him and she's the one who put it into his head to get his father to legitimise him no matter what. He's also convinced his father loved his mother when in reality he raped her. Also he did in fact kill Domeric.
I doubt, Ramsay hates being a bastard and, even if Roose is really the one to blame for it, his mother might in his mind be the reason of hi… morem being bastard. It wouldn't really come as a suprise if Ramsay has already killed his mom. I don't remember was it mentioned in the books if she is still alive or not?
The whole thing didn't even happen in the books and that scene was one of the worst in GoT so meh... I think the main point of it is just to show how fucked up Theon is.
At this point, in the books at least, it is becoming a bit hard to understand how Ramsay survives at all. No one really has a reason to lik… moree him. He just happens to be useful for his father, but I get a sense that he will not suffer the bully much either.
By abusing Davos' loyalty, by betraying his given word to Renly, by using both Melisandre and R'lorr to further his ambitions, by time and again desecrating places and burning people out of political convenience alone, by toying with the idea of sacrificing his nephew to appease Melisandre.
He is a very developed (and bloody) specimen of political hypocrite.
By abusing Davos' loyalty, by betraying his given word to Renly, by using both Melisandre and R'lorr to further his ambitions, by time and a… moregain desecrating places and burning people out of political convenience alone, by toying with the idea of sacrificing his nephew to appease Melisandre.
He is a very developed (and bloody) specimen of political hypocrite.
Hey. Read the books. And you're right on the stone dragon thing. But he burned several people out of political convenience. Any one who expressed the slightest disagreement with any of his ideas got burned. This is not the sign of a good king. They made the same point about a good king listening to his advisers to both Joffrey and Tommen.
Stannis never abuses Davos's loyalty. Without Stannis Davos would be living in flea bottom along with his entire family.
What word did he… more give to Renly? Renly betrayed him and refuses his offer of peace, instead prefering war.
What is wrong with using Gods and Magic? Tergaryens used Dragons.
He never burned anyone out of political convenience. If you read the books you would know that.
He doesnt want to sacrifice the nephew to apease Melisandre, he wanted to sacrifice him to wake up the stone dragons.
Not true. The only ones Stannis burned was Alex Florent for trying to marry his daughter off to Lannisters or give her hostage to them. I am sorry but that is an act of treason.
Davos constantly disagrees with him, and does things that Stannis doesnt aprove of. Yet Davos isnt burning.
Whenever Stannis was asked to sacrifice people to Rhlor he said "Pray harder".
Hey. Read the books. And you're right on the stone dragon thing. But he burned several people out of political convenience. Any one who expr… moreessed the slightest disagreement with any of his ideas got burned. This is not the sign of a good king. They made the same point about a good king listening to his advisers to both Joffrey and Tommen.
However will he do something that ended up being good? Yeah.
He's psychotic and therefore likely not to be consistant with his practicial decisions.
Think about in the game. He may side with the Foresters for a moment to show the Whitehills to not take him for granted. Was his intentions good? No. But he may end up being a odd figment of hope.
However NOTHING will change the fact he's mentally unstable and the only thing consistant about him is cruelity for the sake of entertainment.
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Hmmm maybe when........the sun rises in the west and sets in the east. When mountains blow in the wind like leaves and rivers run dry.
Does anyone take into account that he's a child of incest, his childhood was complete shit and he's been on his own his whole life
Yes and that is a sad thing. Still it's no excuse for all the sick and evil things he does, if his bastard blood and bad childhood rules out him being a better and healthier human being then it's better that someone kills him already.
edit: oh, btw Ramsay is not child of incest, just bastard.
Nope Mike is actually right. That's the exact reason Ramsay was written that way.
I don't thinking flaying an innocent man and killing a child would make anyone good.
Especially Ramsay "The Bastard" Bolton-Snow
I'm terrified.
Its not an excuse its an explanation
He's as close as you get. He's a monster in human skin.
Wasn't he always the good guy?! Or did I miss something. ;o)
Ramsay Snow is a monster through-and-through. His light side is long gone.
Well yes, with that I can agree with you. Though not every kid with shit childhood turns into psycho.
Jack Gleeson is a scholar. He's won awards. Apparently, he's brilliantly smart. I think I read that he's going to become a professor or something. I respect that.
No, they didn't fail. Anyone would look like a bitch, as you say, under horrific torture. Let's see you get flayed, beaten senseless, get held down and have your man parts cut off and not crack. And thats not to mention the psychological torture Ramsay put him through.
I think in this case it is black and white. Book Ramsay has no redeeming values whatsoever. He's even physically repulsive. Even his horrible father thinks he's a monster.
If you're talking about Ramsay, he's a child of rape, not incest. Half of Westeros are children of incest.
I don't say i'd be better in his position, but the show just fails to make me feel simpathetic towards Theon. He was a little cunt before, and is a little cunt after becoming Reek.
I felt no simpathy for him, nor felt sorry for what happened to him. The only reaction I had when watching his capture is "meh, the little bitch deserves it"
I fucking hate that manlet
Yeah I heard that he was a scholar and professor is respectable, but don't assume he is going to be one. unless you did read it somewhere don't assume he will be one.
Isn't that what I said? I think I remember reading that sometime ago. I wasn't assuming anything.
Sorry no it sounded like you were assuming. Ok so he has retied for good. I can't say I blame him, I just hope he doesn't blame himself for all the hateful comments he heard from fans.
No. Nope. No way.
"Do you think Ramsay Snow will turn out to be the good guy"
Whatever you say
LOL...
definitely no.
Nope. He's crazy and creepy as f*ck.
Shes dead in the books. And he DID love her actually. She raised him and she's the one who put it into his head to get his father to legitimise him no matter what. He's also convinced his father loved his mother when in reality he raped her. Also he did in fact kill Domeric.
He had half his followers burned at the stake at the suggestion of Melisandre. And he made the rest watch.
And also to show Ramsay shirtless because MEOW.
cough cough Beric Dondarrion and Catelyn Stark cough cough
His father declared him Lord of Winterfell. Yeah. Hes soooo ready to be rid of him.
Yeah hes pretty definitely evil. Hes also one of my favorite characters right up there with Dany and The Hound.
Not only by comparison, but also by actual character interaction.
Heck, Ramsay makes Joffrey look almost human.
By abusing Davos' loyalty, by betraying his given word to Renly, by using both Melisandre and R'lorr to further his ambitions, by time and again desecrating places and burning people out of political convenience alone, by toying with the idea of sacrificing his nephew to appease Melisandre.
He is a very developed (and bloody) specimen of political hypocrite.
Stannis never abuses Davos's loyalty. Without Stannis Davos would be living in flea bottom along with his entire family.
What word did he give to Renly? Renly betrayed him and refuses his offer of peace, instead prefering war.
What is wrong with using Gods and Magic? Tergaryens used Dragons.
He never burned anyone out of political convenience. If you read the books you would know that.
He doesnt want to sacrifice the nephew to apease Melisandre, he wanted to sacrifice him to wake up the stone dragons.
Hey. Read the books. And you're right on the stone dragon thing. But he burned several people out of political convenience. Any one who expressed the slightest disagreement with any of his ideas got burned. This is not the sign of a good king. They made the same point about a good king listening to his advisers to both Joffrey and Tommen.
Not true. The only ones Stannis burned was Alex Florent for trying to marry his daughter off to Lannisters or give her hostage to them. I am sorry but that is an act of treason.
Davos constantly disagrees with him, and does things that Stannis doesnt aprove of. Yet Davos isnt burning.
Whenever Stannis was asked to sacrifice people to Rhlor he said "Pray harder".
yeah.. I'd have to go with a big fat NO.
Even if he died and reincarnates, just a maybe.
...are you, um, unfamiliar with the books/show?
Will he ever end up being a good guy? Heh. No.
However will he do something that ended up being good? Yeah.
He's psychotic and therefore likely not to be consistant with his practicial decisions.
Think about in the game. He may side with the Foresters for a moment to show the Whitehills to not take him for granted. Was his intentions good? No. But he may end up being a odd figment of hope.
However NOTHING will change the fact he's mentally unstable and the only thing consistant about him is cruelity for the sake of entertainment.