Is ToMI Canon in LucasArts' eyes?

Sinec ToMI is not being made by LucasArts, do they consider this game canon or not?

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  • edited June 2009
    I'm sure they do. Although the game is both developed and published by Telltale, the project is a collaborative arrangement between Telltale and LEC. That is the LucasArts logo at the bottom of Telltale's TMI page, after all!
  • edited June 2009
    YES. Oh, and it's MI5 too before you ask.
  • edited June 2009
    They're all fiction... Every single game... Except the first game that really happened.
  • edited June 2009
    YES. Oh, and it's MI5 too before you ask.

    Actually it's not MI5. It takes place after a non-existant MI5.
    Here's the interview with Dve Grossman: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzwiFALr5HU
  • edited June 2009
    SubSidal wrote: »
    Actually it's not MI5. It takes place after a non-existant MI5.
    Here's the interview with Dve Grossman: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzwiFALr5HU

    Actually it is. Both Dave Grossman and Mark Darin (amongst other telltale staff) have both said that it's a joke that has been taken out of hand.

    They refer to this 'mythical' monkey game in the same way as Raiders of the Lost ark isn't the second Indy movie just because there is the temple scene at the beginning and that Temple of Doom is the second film even though there is the bar scene.

    They're just saying that there's a big gap between EMI and ToMI and it starts at the climax of an unseen adventure.

    Similarly, LeChuck's Revenge is the second game even though other adventures must have happened between it and SoMI.

    (refer to the Q+A session thread with Mark Darin in the normal section or the Private Pirates forum Q+A session for sources).

    God I wish the "this isn't MI5" thing would die.
  • edited June 2009
    tomo_cjt wrote: »
    God I wish the "this isn't MI5" thing would die.

    me too. its the 5th monkey island people. Why does some smartass have to quote Grossman EVERY time someone types MI5.
  • edited June 2009
    Why shouldn't anyone consider this game canon?

    What's this stupid "canon" debate all about, really? What does it matter what other people think? Just decide for yourself what you'd like to consider canon, if it's such a big deal to you.
  • edited June 2009
    A- The fifth game thing comment getting so out of hand...

    B- Canon Monkey Island Debates?

    C- Anyway, the website for the Special Edition says "Telltale continues the adventure" and links to ToMi, so the almighty canon authority has spoken or something...
  • edited June 2009
    Eduardo wrote: »
    Anyway, the website for the Special Edition says "Telltale continues the adventure" and links to ToMi, so the almighty canon authority has spoken or something...

    eh this has probably been told before, but these forums are huge... will the remake of the original monkey island be available through telltale or only through lucasarts?
  • edited June 2009
    The answer is no.

    There is a search feature at the top for that very reason. Most people seem incapable of using it and just start a new thread regardless.

    However, at least you didn't start a new thread to ask the same question - so have a medal.
  • edited June 2009
    Only through Lucasarts, they haven't announced yet the place for online buying.

    Of note, recently the Lucasarts online store closed and was merged with shop.starwars.com
  • edited June 2009
    If ToMI wasn't cannon, what did ye think it was, a dream sequence? Do you think MI is some kinda soap opera?
  • edited June 2009
    It's definitely canon.
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  • edited June 2009
    Mataku wrote: »
    It's definitely canon.
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    see?:D:D:D:D

    Awesome.

    But yeah, it's canon. Lucasarts considers CMI and EMI canon as well, and so does Telltale. The fans may whine about it being otherwise all the time but that doesn't change the fact that it is ALL canon. Unfortunately...
  • edited June 2009
    PimPamPet wrote: »
    Why shouldn't anyone consider this game canon?

    What's this stupid "canon" debate all about, really? What does it matter what other people think? Just decide for yourself what you'd like to consider canon, if it's such a big deal to you.

    The main point I suppose is that if LucasArts were to go ahead and make Monkey Island 6, they'd consider the events of Tales as something that "happened"?

    Really, canon or not canon doesn't really matter outside of what is considered factual for the events of new games.
  • edited June 2009
    The main point I suppose is that if LucasArts were to go ahead and make Monkey Island 6, they'd consider the events of Tales as something that "happened"?
    Ummm... they could of course always make a prequel, or something between the existing episodes, or reboot it the way Star Trek did...

    IMHO canon is waaay overrated these days. :D

    np: Fink - Walkin' In The Sun (Sort Of Revolution)
  • EmilyEmily Telltale Alumni
    edited June 2009
    tomo_cjt wrote: »
    The answer is no.

    There is a search feature at the top for that very reason. Most people seem incapable of using it and just start a new thread regardless.

    However, at least you didn't start a new thread to ask the same question - so have a medal.

    Hey now. No need to be rude.

    Shen-Zhi, my understanding is that the PC version of the Secret of Monkey Island Special Edition will be available through Steam, and the Xbox version through XBLA.
  • edited June 2009
    yey; Steam, brilliant(!) <insert most sarcastic smiley ever made>

    P.S. Steam lubbers, don't waste your breath on me. I have used it and I shan't be converted :)
  • edited June 2009
    I think LucasArts will class it as canon since they pretty much allowed TellTale to develop it and are collaborating in a sense.
  • edited June 2009
    Emily wrote: »
    Hey now. No need to be rude.

    :( Sorry.
  • edited July 2009
    Gryffalio wrote: »
    yey; Steam, brilliant(!) <insert most sarcastic smiley ever made>

    P.S. Steam lubbers, don't waste your breath on me. I have used it and I shan't be converted :)

    What's wrong with Steam?

    The only time I ever had a problem with it was back when I had dial-up and it would freeze during a steam update thus preventing me from even starting Steam. However since I been on high speed internet I never had a problem with it.

    Also TellTale pretty much works the same exact way.
  • edited July 2009
    Most of LA games are made by other companies and they are canon (for example - TOR is going to be BioWare's production and it will be considered as Star Wars canon - which, btw, will ruin SW canon for me)
  • edited July 2009
    I think they claimed this game took place after MI5 just so they could claim that it was actually MI6, to be all James Bond/British secret agent-y.
  • edited July 2009
    bobhobbit wrote: »
    I think they claimed this game took place after MI5 just so they could claim that it was actually MI6, to be all James Bond/British secret agent-y.

    Or Leisure Suit Larry-ish.
  • edited July 2009
    I'm sure no-one over at Lucasarts is sitting with a piece of paper called The Monkey Island Official Canon™, exluding and including certain games, or events from the games. All MI games are "canon", including TMI.
  • edited July 2009
    SubSidal wrote: »
    Actually it's not MI5. It takes place after a non-existant MI5.
    Here's the interview with Dve Grossman: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzwiFALr5HU

    Maybe the LucasArts will work on a 5th episode of MI?
  • edited July 2009
    Maybe the LucasArts will work on a 5th episode of MI?

    I doubt it considering most of the people that made the originals are working at other companies such as TTG.
  • edited July 2009
    Maybe the LucasArts will work on a 5th episode of MI?

    Actually, Telltale have since said that statement was just a joke blown way out of proportion. The game IS MI5, it's just set many years after the events of MI4.
  • edited July 2009
    Starting up the story with time skipped is nothing new for a Monkey Island game.... I do not see why people are so confused over this concept.....

    Heck the first game even seemed to skip a game.... How did he get there?.... Why does he want to be a pirate? How does he fit all that stuff in him pants?
  • edited July 2009
    Irishmile wrote: »
    Starting up the story with time skipped is nothing new for a Monkey Island game.... I do not see why people are so confused over this concept.....

    Heck the first game even seemed to skip a game.... How did he get there?.... Why does he want to be a pirate? How does he fit all that stuff in him pants?

    maybe we will know someday, it could all end with a time paradox with him getting send back in time to that very moment without remembering anything :eek:
  • edited July 2009
    RMJ1984 wrote: »
    maybe we will know someday, it could all end with a time paradox with him getting send back in time to that very moment without remembering anything :eek:

    and klingons½!
  • edited July 2009
    I think its canon..... its a cannon loaded with a voodoo cannon ball.


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  • edited July 2009
    Irishmile wrote: »
    I think its canon..... its a cannon loaded with a voodoo cannon ball.

    That's sooo kinky.
  • edited July 2009
    Irishmile wrote: »
    Heck the first game even seemed to skip a game.... How did he get there?.... Why does he want to be a pirate? How does he fit all that stuff in him pants?

    George Lucas is making this into a three movie pre-quel starring Jar-Jar Binks. :p
  • edited July 2009
    RMJ1984 wrote: »
    maybe we will know someday, it could all end with a time paradox with him getting send back in time to that very moment without remembering anything :eek:

    Until he'd die of old age...? ;)
  • edited July 2009
    maybe its more important to know if Tomi is canon in Ron gilbert's eyes :o
  • edited July 2009
    Novotnus wrote: »
    Most of LA games are made by other companies and they are canon (for example - TOR is going to be BioWare's production and it will be considered as Star Wars canon - which, btw, will ruin SW canon for me)

    That's not exactly true.. The Star Wars universe is pretty complicated, but basically, it'll be expanded universe canon, anything outside of the movies isn't considered canon, and falls into the expanded universe - which some consider more important, but the fact is that if Lucas ever wants to make his own stories that contridict any of it, he will.

    Although there are a few cases of him taking popular characters and bringing them into the movies, etc.
  • edited July 2009
    Only Gilbert decides what's canon or not imho and he even participated to some extent brainstorming ideas to the TTG folks so, yeh it's canon.
  • edited July 2009
    I could care less what LucasArts considers or does not consider canon. To me, canon is declared by the original game designer and developers (both of whom worked on TMI). That's good enough for me.
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