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After TOMI, Would you like to see a darker Tone Monkey Island?

Wolfstar27Wolfstar27
edited July 2009 in Tales of Monkey Island
Interesting Question i thought that,ive seen Monkey Island progress from the first one towards the lastest one, and it has progressed Monkey Island as a more cartoony look and the revamping the first Monkey Island theyve made it also into a cartoon look (the characters ),do you think Monkey Island would be always portrayed as a Cartoon styled game?, Monkey Island 2 is slighty darker (remember the part where you see guybrushs parents skeletons in the lost and found) now people who have grown up with Monkey Island from the first one are slighty abit older now.

after seeing this sketch, i thought it could have a darker look and still maintain its humour (things dont have to be cartoony to be funny)

http://www.worldofmi.com/images/categories/19/Cap.jpg

what are your opinions guys?

Comments

  • PariahKingPariahKing
    edited July 2009
    I think ToMI will be sufficiently dark.
  • HaggisHaggis
    edited July 2009
    Well, why couldn't one of the episodes be set in a dark environment, a bit like Blood Island in CMI? That wouldn't really surprise me, and I think it's achievable, even in a "cartoony" style.
  • Toothless GibbonToothless Gibbon
    edited July 2009
    To reinterate what I and others have said on other threads, I beleive it to have always been cartoony.

    I think if they could have made the original look a bit more like the special edition at the time they would have done.
  • SurplusGamerSurplusGamer
    edited July 2009
    I talked about this in another thread a bit but it bears mentioning again:

    In a podcast I listened to I think it was Mike Stemmle who mentioned there is a thematic change from day to night as the series goes on, and Jake mentioned somewhere that it's surprising how much the mood changes over the course of the series, too.

    So, I suspect that you'll get what you are looking for from Tales of Monkey Island, and it looks like a lot of the darker stuff in the game occurs in the latter half of the series.

    On a different note, if you really look at the MI1/2 graphics, it has always been a rather cartoony game, rather than a realistic-looking game. It's just that the art styles were a little different and perhaps more subtle in the first two games.
  • ScrawfflerScrawffler
    edited July 2009
    Hmm... Tim Burton-esque styles spring to mind. :D

    But still, like PK mentioned TOMI could indeed turn out to be quite dark. Things don't have to be cartoony to be funny, quite right there. But also, things don't have to be constantly light-hearted just because they look cartoony. Guess we'll have to wait and see!
  • MusicallyInspiredMusicallyInspired
    edited July 2009
    Ack! Keep Tim Burton far far away from Monkey Island! I can't stand the guy. He ruins everything he touches. Except Batman '89.
  • ScapettiScapetti
    edited July 2009
    MusicallyInspired wrote: »
    Ack! Keep Tim Burton far far away from Monkey Island! I can't stand the guy. He ruins everything he touches. Except Batman '89.

    Oh he's good really... he just shouldn't be allowed to make remakes (Planet of the Apes, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory)
  • Threepwood4LifeThreepwood4Life
    edited July 2009
    MusicallyInspired wrote: »
    Ack! Keep Tim Burton far far away from Monkey Island! I can't stand the guy. He ruins everything he touches. Except Batman '89.

    If he got his hands on it He'll make his chum Johnny Depp Guybrush and his own wife Helena Botham Carter Elaine. Now we don't want that do we NO NO NO.
  • presidentmaxpresidentmax
    edited July 2009
    Scapetti wrote: »
    Oh he's good really... he just shouldn't be allowed to make remakes (Planet of the Apes, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory)

    As much as i love Burton i can't help but agree with this. It seems like Burton is taking the easy route and just remaking movies. I miss the way he made movies in the 80's and 90's.

    Oh yeah, i'm all for a return to the darkness of mi2. Considering how telltale are taking influence from mi2 and mi3 (and most likely 1) then i think we are definetly in a few surprises.
  • ScapettiScapetti
    edited July 2009
    Go back and play Curse of Monkey Island and you will be surprised at how much death there is in such a vibrant game! Heck, even Guybrush dies! I do hope TMI has a reasonable amount of death and darkness but I have seen nothing to make me think it won't, so this will probably be the dark toned Monkey Island you desire. Maybe you should wait for the game before you start assuming it will be all cuddly and cheery XD
  • darknessofheartdarknessofheart
    edited July 2009
    You have to remember while Monkey Island games are comical, the core storyline is not. It's about a guy who wants to be seen as a man in the form of piracy and falls in love. A horrible villain that is undead due to him entering the bowels of hell murders people and even goes as far as creating an amusement park, an image of family fun, and uses it to mass murder people, turn them into the undead, and forces them to serve him.

    If someone just read that they would say these games are dark and sick. But they are funny. The best thing about Monkey Island is that it's a game that can be serious, but not too serious. The stories are dark and spooky but are told through humorous dialogue and interactions. That will never go away and shouldn't.
  • Shen-ZhiShen-Zhi
    edited July 2009
    go play left 4 dead. monkey island should NEVER change to anything darker than it already is. and the darkest thing is the humor.
  • ScapettiScapetti
    edited July 2009
    darknessofheart wrote: »
    You have to remember while Monkey Island games are comical, the core storyline is not. It's about a guy who wants to be seen as a man in the form of piracy and falls in love. A horrible villain that is undead due to him entering the bowels of hell murders people and even goes as far as creating an amusement park, an image of family fun, and uses it to mass murder people, turn them into the undead, and forces them to serve him.

    If someone just read that they would say these games are dark and sick. But they are funny. The best thing about Monkey Island is that it's a game that can be serious, but not too serious. The stories are dark and spooky but are told through humorous dialogue and interactions. That will never go away and shouldn't.

    To sum up: it's a dark comedy :cool:
  • PariahKingPariahKing
    edited July 2009
    I think it'll end up transitioning from CMI-like to MI2 like - sort of like a transition from MI1 to MI2 in fast forward.
  • darknessofheartdarknessofheart
    edited July 2009
    Scapetti wrote: »
    To sum up: it's a dark comedy :cool:

    That's the term I was looking for. lol
  • LeakLeak
    edited July 2009
    Scapetti wrote: »
    To sum up: it's a dark comedy :cool:
    Hmmm... I had actually hoped for it to be a romantic comedy - with zombies... :)
  • TookiGuyTookiGuy
    edited July 2009
    You know what, I always thought as a kid, that I wanted as many Monkey Islands as there were possible. But now, you know... As great as the series is, I think ToMI should be the last one.
  • MusicallyInspiredMusicallyInspired
    edited July 2009
    I loved the MI2 atmosphere.
  • ScapettiScapetti
    edited July 2009
    Leak wrote: »
    Hmmm... I had actually hoped for it to be a romantic comedy - with zombies... :)

    Don't you be linking a Brit to Shaun of the Dead! I knew full well what you were hinting about XD Keep your references subtle, if people don't get it then they are the one's missing out ;)
  • PariahKingPariahKing
    edited July 2009
    I don't think TMI should necessarily be the last one - what they shouldn't do is exploit it and overexpose it. A two or three year gap between a second season would be beneficial in helping to not turn the series stale. Between the wait in the gap you could remake MI2.

    LucasArts really ought to re-release the other games they're not probably planning on updating like 3 and 4 or even patch them so they can run on modern systems.
  • chriswebchrisweb
    edited July 2009
    I dont want a darker look, the catoonish look is perfect, i really like it, 3d thats another question ;)
  • thatdude98thatdude98
    edited July 2009
    A darker Monkey Island?

    Hmmmmmmmm... No.

    I can't really see it working. Weren't MI2 and MI3 dark enough? But Tim Burton on MI?

    Hmmmmmmmm... No.
  • UdvarnokyUdvarnoky
    edited July 2009
    "Cartoonish" is not the opposite of dark. Case in point: MI2 has a cartoonish art style.

    Besides, how can you ask for a successor to TMI to be darker in tone than TMI when you haven't even played the game you're using as a comparison case? I don't trust your judgment of the game's tone given how little of it anyone has seen.
  • Austin PAustin P
    edited July 2009
    The question is more complicated than a person might think, because there are multiple ways for a story to be darker. Does the overall plot become darker? Does Threepwood become a more serious character? Or will there be dark side stories like the Goodsoup family?

    It all depends on how it's handled, but I'd ultimately like to see it remain cartoony. For the most part.
  • Guybrush_ThreepwoodGuybrush_Threepwood
    edited July 2009
    I always complained about what you're saying, and went into lots of discussions in these forums.
    With TOMI, I think the dark side of the series has been focused again, I really couldn't be happier. LeChuck feels menacing and dangerous again with voodoo rites. You can feel to be unsafe. It didn't happen since MI2. Good times.
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