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My list of games that LA should put out on the second round of steam downloads.

jhuddyjhuddy
edited July 2009 in Tales of Monkey Island
Monkey Island 2: Lechucks Revenge.
The Curse of Monkey Island.
Day of the Tentacle.
Full Throttle.
Sam and Max: Hit the Road

And so concludes my list. Obviously there is room for some more, but these are the games i would REALLY like to see again. what do you think?
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  • SHODANFreemanSHODANFreeman
    edited July 2009
    What about Grim Fandango?
  • EstelEstel
    edited July 2009
    That's blowing their load in one fell swoop :). If they're doing multiple waves, I think they'd want to spread out the gems amongst some of the other titles that history doesn't remember so well.
  • jp-30jp-30
    edited July 2009
    Also, those titles in the first post are ripe for Special Edition makeovers which is why I think they were held back this round.
  • jhuddyjhuddy
    edited July 2009
    for sure. didnt even think about that. i hope they release them all sometime though.
  • FuryFury
    edited July 2009
    I think that unless the lucasarts games are like $1.50, they're a huge ripoff.

    When a game hasn't been out for like 20 years, it really should be free. Most SCUMM fans who missed these games the first time went back and got them off emulator sites and played em on ScummVM.

    They won't sell really, unless they're remade. If they were remade, I'd buy em.
  • jp-30jp-30
    edited July 2009
    What?

    Is every book or movie that's 20 years old free?
  • EstelEstel
    edited July 2009
    I think you're wrong. Abandonware is a stupid argument, and given that Lucasarts put time and effort into making these titles work on XP + Vista, there's no reason they can't charge a fair bit more than $1.50.
  • harlequ1nharlequ1n
    edited July 2009
    Fellow European gamers, don't buy games on Steam! Don't feed Valve's greed.
  • FuryFury
    edited July 2009
    It still seems a bit of a ripoff for me.

    There was such a big gap between now and when the games originally came out that people wanting to play did emulate them.

    I'm not saying it's right, I'm saying it happened.
  • EstelEstel
    edited July 2009
    harlequ1n wrote: »
    Fellow European gamers, don't buy games on Steam! Don't feed Valve's greed.

    Hrm, I'd treat Steam as any other marketplace and buy a title if it seems like a good deal. If a game is more expensive than at retail, then I won't buy it on Steam.
  • FuryFury
    edited July 2009
    Well, Full Throttle was already sold here in Australia (along with curse, the dig and grim fandango) for $5 each.

    So I expect them to be cheaper than that at probably $2.50, and LOOM and Indy will be cheaper at $1.50.
  • jp-30jp-30
    edited July 2009
    US$5 is reasonable. I saw a number of the Activision rerleases for between $10 & $15, if they were $5, that would have been a clearance sale, not recommended retail price.
  • Hero1Hero1
    edited July 2009
    jp-30 wrote: »
    Also, those titles in the first post are ripe for Special Edition makeovers which is why I think they were held back this round.

    What he said. :rolleyes:
  • giant_frying_pangiant_frying_pan
    edited July 2009
    Fury wrote: »
    I think that unless the lucasarts games are like $1.50, they're a huge ripoff.

    When a game hasn't been out for like 20 years, it really should be free. Most SCUMM fans who missed these games the first time went back and got them off emulator sites and played em on ScummVM.

    They won't sell really, unless they're remade. If they were remade, I'd buy em.
    If you ever make a masterpiece of an adventure game, let me know so I can wait two decades and then steal it, thus not compensating you for your work.

    Just because you think the games aren't worth more than $1.50, doesn't mean that Lucasarts should be obliged to sell them for $1.50 to you or anyone else.

    With the exception of Full Throttle, all of the games mentioned in the original post have been legally available since their release.

    The prices haven't been announced yet. If you still think they're a rip-off when they're on sale tomorrow then don't pay it...and don't play it.
  • corruptbigginscorruptbiggins
    edited July 2009
    regarding the possible prices, you have to remember it's not as if they're just going to take the original games and dump them onto Steam - they have to do some work to make them compatible which cost money & time.
  • giant_frying_pangiant_frying_pan
    edited July 2009
    Well, even if the process was merely dumping the games on Steam, that still doesn't mean Lucasarts is obliged to sell them for nothing or next to nothing.

    There's a very bizarre sense of entitlement amongst some gamers that goes, 'Well ROMs are free, so legal copies should be free too!!!'.

    Depreciation doesn't enter into it either.
  • sucky chuckysucky chucky
    edited July 2009
    hey, id software released an iphone port of wolf 3d for $2.99. I don't think $5 is clearance bin pricing for something that old. don't get me wrong, i have no problem paying for new stuff (such as the telltales series) but i certainly won't pay $15 to play loom on my pc via steam if it's the same version that i play through scummvm.
  • FuryFury
    edited July 2009
    Yeah, it's pretty expensive. $5 isn't clearance, especially when the game is $20 years old.

    And Monkey Island 1 and 2 weren't available legally for ages. You could buy a collectors edition that came with all 4 MI's, but MI2 didn't have sound and MI didn't have all the music.

    So I felt justified when I downloaded a MI2 Rom that had sound, cos I felt ripped off for paying $40 for 4 games, 2 of which I already owned, and then I get home and discover that they don't even have sound.

    That was the only way to get MI here, and that was only available for a few years after MI4. Tentacle, Loom, Indy etc weren't even sold at all.

    And I imagine the games will be about $2.50 max, as they have dated badly.
  • jp-30jp-30
    edited July 2009
    Dated badly? What?
  • EstelEstel
    edited July 2009
    I'd guess $5-10 each, perhaps somewhere in the middle of that range.
  • IrishmileIrishmile
    edited July 2009
    I think those games hold their own to this day.
  • priznaprizna
    edited July 2009
    If they do make the LOOM sequels what style would you like it to be, as it was but more like SE graphics, like COMI, or 3D?
  • FuryFury
    edited July 2009
    The Monkey Island games (1 and 2) have dated pretty poorly. Most of the humour is still intact but the pixel hunting is annoying. People have moved past the point where it was acceptable to click on every tiny thing in the background (think telescope in the big tree in MI2) but nowadays it's kinda irritating, as most puzzles you get stuck on require you to go back and pick up something tiny, like string or Ash 2 Life.
  • ElaineMarleyThreepwoodElaineMarleyThreepwood
    edited July 2009
    True but the revamp Special Edition of Secret of Monkey Island looks AWESOME. I can't wait for it to come out so I can replay the game but have it look so much better. <3
  • FuryFury
    edited July 2009
    Yeah revamps look great. I would pay for those in a hearbeat.
  • CohenCohen
    edited July 2009
    Fury wrote: »
    The Monkey Island games (1 and 2) have dated pretty poorly.
    The Monkey Island games have dated poorly?

    Racing games and ego-Shooters... THEY age extremely fast, but 15-20 years old 2d-adventures still look okay.
  • Juicius MaximusJuicius Maximus
    edited July 2009
    don't get me wrong, i have no problem paying for new stuff (such as the telltales series) but i certainly won't pay $15 to play loom on my pc via steam if it's the same version that i play through scummvm.

    Well, you could always pay these prices for a boxed copy.
    Dated badly? What?

    second that.
  • FuryFury
    edited July 2009
    Check my earlier post.

    Graphics are fine, Curse has stood the test of time really well, best Scumm game.

    But think back to the click on everything puzzles in MI2, such as the Ash-2-Life and the String, as well as the telescope.
  • FondsFonds
    edited July 2009
    I couldnt think of any game that has aged as good as the LA adventure games have.

    I can't even imagine how some of you could say that these games have aged badly. The atmosphere in these games has managed to stand the test of time like no other game.

    Period.

    The fact alone that we're all still talking about (and replaying) this game is a testament to its grandeur.
    Most of us are not still doing the same with Railroad Tycoon or Michael Jackson's Moonwalker.
  • PariahKingPariahKing
    edited July 2009
    I'm guessing as The Secret of Monkey Island is selling for $10 that the other LEC adventures will go for $5 or even less. Below $5 I have to wonder if they're even turning a profit hosting it on Steam.

    It's worth $5 for the XP/Vista compatability update in itself. It's a lot simpler to install Steam than use Scummvm - as much as I love the program it occasionally gives me random and weird problems. It'll also help promote these games and get them into thought again - LOOM and Fate getting attention is great, and I've never played The Dig myself so perhaps I'll give it a spin. I have LOOM, never tried it out though.
  • FondsFonds
    edited July 2009
    @ PariahKing

    The Dig is seriously one of LA's best adventure games. You're going to love playing it I'm sure!
  • pipi2pipi2
    edited July 2009
    i expect the games to be $9.99 each, a bit cheaper for really old ones like loom and indy 3.
  • PariahKingPariahKing
    edited July 2009
    Yeah I've heard good things about The Dig. I'll probably be playing that sooner or later.

    Recently I bought using Half.com and other stuff from gift money...multiple hundreds of dollars on adventure games. I have a lot of stuff to play - kind of want to play that old text adventure Trinity but I've got to play Wishbringer first.
  • harlequ1nharlequ1n
    edited July 2009
    2D graphics, if well crafted, age way better than good 3D. Just look at the gorgeous graphics of LeChuck's Revenge and compare it to Escape. I'm not even sure if they would look better should they have an HD treatment like Street Fighter recently had. It's pixel magic in all its splendor.
  • clone2727clone2727
    edited July 2009
    harlequ1n wrote: »
    2D graphics, if well crafted, age way better than good 3D. Just look at the gorgeous graphics of LeChuck's Revenge and compare it to Escape. I'm not even sure if they would look better should they have an HD treatment like Street Fighter recently had. It's pixel magic in all its splendor.
    tbh, I wouldn't mind if they made a MI2 Special Edition with scans of the original artwork. Now that would be awesome! :D
  • XocratesXocrates
    edited July 2009
    I believe Steam's approach to old games (of which it sells a few) is to throw them in dosbox and sell them at around 5$/€.

    Personally I'm betting on about that for the classic lucasarts lineup. And probably around 9$/€ for more recent games.
  • clone2727clone2727
    edited July 2009
    Xocrates wrote: »
    I believe Steam's approach to old games (of which it sells a few) is to throw them in dosbox and sell them at around 5$/€.

    Personally I'm betting on about that for the classic lucasarts lineup. And probably around 9$/€ for more recent games.
    LucasArts already said they're not using DOSBox.
  • XocratesXocrates
    edited July 2009
    clone2727 wrote: »
    LucasArts already said they're not using DOSBox.
    Ah, so it is.

    Well, my fault for not using twitter :P
  • ScapettiScapetti
    edited July 2009
    I reckon they might wait until Brutal Legend before releasing Full Throttle and Grim Fandango to sort of run in on its success. And I don't think they will release the rest of the Monkey Island games until the inevitable Monkey Island 2: Special Edition.

    Hmm, that only really leaves Sam & Max and the classics such as Maniac Mansion and Zak (which probably won't get releases because they deserve Special Editions also). And they might hold of Sam & Max until Season 3 or the XBLA release of Season 2.

    In conclusion... prepare to be disappointed on the adventure front next batch. But there probably still will be great games. Dark Forces, Afterlife, X-Wing vs Tie Fighter et cetera.
  • jp-30jp-30
    edited July 2009
    PariahKing wrote: »
    I'm guessing as The Secret of Monkey Island is selling for $10 that the other LEC adventures will go for $5 or even less. Below $5 I have to wonder if they're even turning a profit hosting it on Steam.
    Has US$10 been confirmed by LucasArts yet?
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