He said he was going to destroy all Claptraps and he did, but one. He said he poisoned Wilhelm. He would take that victory from you a little… more. And Nisha being killed shut him up. Shutting Jack up is a sign that you really got under his skin. He didn't even have the ability to rage or make some sort of comment that would turn it around on you. Silence speaks volumes.
Whether intentional or not, Jack is totally borderline personality, having grown up with that I have a sympathy for his thinking processes. We don't know if he tried to kill claptrap because he was betrayed by him, or simply that the claptrap units are malfunctioning robots. Letting Wilhelm die was part of the job of being a mercenary. He didn't personally kill him, just put him in a dangerous situation, which is what he was paid to do.
Actually, the Claptastic Voyage DLC shows him betraying Claptrap. After getting what he needs from his systems he shoots the main Claptrap, then has the rest destroyed. He poisoned Wilhelm, which means he INTENDED for him to die. It's an asshole thing to do, and not "looking out for his team".
Whether intentional or not, Jack is totally borderline personality, having grown up with that I have a sympathy for his thinking processes. … moreWe don't know if he tried to kill claptrap because he was betrayed by him, or simply that the claptrap units are malfunctioning robots. Letting Wilhelm die was part of the job of being a mercenary. He didn't personally kill him, just put him in a dangerous situation, which is what he was paid to do.
Define Jack: All of the above, which is why he's misunderstood. He wants to be a hero, but doesn't understand the morality of his actions because he is mentally unsound. He is sadistic and power hungry, but he really believes that he is doing what's right. He is an extremely complex character and, next to Andrew Ryan, Vaas, and Loghain, is one of the best video game villains in history.
Favourite Antagonist: Currently my favourite is Vasquez, because I find him hilarious, and because his conflict with Rhys felt the most intense (at the time). However depending on how the series goes on, my favourite antagonist may end up being Jack and/or Vaughn (still don't trust him).
Who would I want to be: Honestly? none of them. Pandora is a s#!thole. If I had to choose I guess I'd pick Fiona. Yeah I know she's female which would be weird for me (duh) but everyone else has it (even) worse than she does; Rhys and Vaughn are surrounded by people they can't trust every day of their lives (probably why Rhys values friendship so much, and gets happy if you refer to him as a friend), Athena is a badass and is in a good relationship, but has a terrible past, the antagonists are......well antagonists, Dumpy isn't sentient and the other robots don't have complete free will/can be controlled, Shade is insane, I don't know enough about Felix to make an informed decision on his life, and Sasha basically has the same life as Fiona, but with less potential.
he looks out for his team but"his team" means anyone who is useful to him, once you're not useful to him you get chugged out an airlock or shot in your wonderfully sized mainframe.
Actually, the Claptastic Voyage DLC shows him betraying Claptrap. After getting what he needs from his systems he shoots the main Claptrap, … morethen has the rest destroyed. He poisoned Wilhelm, which means he INTENDED for him to die. It's an asshole thing to do, and not "looking out for his team".
Jack in BL3?: Yes, but not as the villain. It would be cool to see a greater/more powerful evil emerge that makes the Vault Hunters and Jack… more form an unsteady alliance.
Can the AI Jack be different?: Absolutely. However he still has the same base personality, and it would be foolish to (completely) trust him.
Rhys as a VH in BL3?: Sure but only if A) Tales steers him towards that path (via training with Athena and Fiona maybe?) or they make him as a joke character for hard Play throughs.
AI's fate?: Survives (for now at least). Too much set up for him to just be flushed down the drain like a dead fish. Plus he's a fan-favourite.
Who would you like to see in BL3?: Every character from Borderlands who is still breathing as at least a cameo.
Main cast as Vault Hunters?: Fiona definitely. Rhys maybe.
Starting Vault Hunters?: 1) Fiona 2) a new Siren 3) Maybe Rhys 4) Other(s)
Who wil die?: From most to least probable(but still … [view original content]
Define Jack: All of the above, which is why he's misunderstood. He wants to be a hero, but doesn't understand the morality of his actions be… morecause he is mentally unsound. He is sadistic and power hungry, but he really believes that he is doing what's right. He is an extremely complex character and, next to Andrew Ryan, Vaas, and Loghain, is one of the best video game villains in history.
Favourite Antagonist: Currently my favourite is Vasquez, because I find him hilarious, and because his conflict with Rhys felt the most intense (at the time). However depending on how the series goes on, my favourite antagonist may end up being Jack and/or Vaughn (still don't trust him).
Who would I want to be: Honestly? none of them. Pandora is a s#!thole. If I had to choose I guess I'd pick Fiona. Yeah I know she's female which would be weird for me (duh) but everyone else has it (even) worse than she does; Rhys and Vaughn are surrounded by people they… [view original content]
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But he DID try to kill that Claptrap. And he let Wilhelm die. So no, he doesn't take of his team.
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Whether intentional or not, Jack is totally borderline personality, having grown up with that I have a sympathy for his thinking processes. We don't know if he tried to kill claptrap because he was betrayed by him, or simply that the claptrap units are malfunctioning robots. Letting Wilhelm die was part of the job of being a mercenary. He didn't personally kill him, just put him in a dangerous situation, which is what he was paid to do.
Actually, the Claptastic Voyage DLC shows him betraying Claptrap. After getting what he needs from his systems he shoots the main Claptrap, then has the rest destroyed. He poisoned Wilhelm, which means he INTENDED for him to die. It's an asshole thing to do, and not "looking out for his team".
Define Jack: All of the above, which is why he's misunderstood. He wants to be a hero, but doesn't understand the morality of his actions because he is mentally unsound. He is sadistic and power hungry, but he really believes that he is doing what's right. He is an extremely complex character and, next to Andrew Ryan, Vaas, and Loghain, is one of the best video game villains in history.
Favourite Antagonist: Currently my favourite is Vasquez, because I find him hilarious, and because his conflict with Rhys felt the most intense (at the time). However depending on how the series goes on, my favourite antagonist may end up being Jack and/or Vaughn (still don't trust him).
Who would I want to be: Honestly? none of them. Pandora is a s#!thole. If I had to choose I guess I'd pick Fiona. Yeah I know she's female which would be weird for me (duh) but everyone else has it (even) worse than she does; Rhys and Vaughn are surrounded by people they can't trust every day of their lives (probably why Rhys values friendship so much, and gets happy if you refer to him as a friend), Athena is a badass and is in a good relationship, but has a terrible past, the antagonists are......well antagonists, Dumpy isn't sentient and the other robots don't have complete free will/can be controlled, Shade is insane, I don't know enough about Felix to make an informed decision on his life, and Sasha basically has the same life as Fiona, but with less potential.
he looks out for his team but"his team" means anyone who is useful to him, once you're not useful to him you get chugged out an airlock or shot in your wonderfully sized mainframe.
a LoaderBot class could be cool.
Weren't there multiple unused audio clips of Dumpy saying that his real name was Topher, and that he was trapped in a robot body?