I can see Talia and Elissa guilt-tripping Rodrik for choosing the Sentinel. Y'know "how could you betray him, he worked so hard for you, where's your loyalty to family," etc etc.
That's a good possibility although at this point I'm not sure how much more respect there is to lose with all that's happened to Ironrath an… mored it's people already. I do wonder though that if Arthur is a choice and he's killed if that will stop the wedding since she may think we're a monster for choosing him, she's been pretty level-headed thus far but I could understand that choice really jeopardizing the wedding.
Pretty sure Rodrick and/or Talia are going to suffer REALLY HARD!! But they'll live... I'm not even sure if Ramsay likes Rodricks way of acting, I mean the way I play Rodrick is crazy and takes no shit from the whitehills... I don't think Ramsay likes teh Whitehills that much either... He'll allways hurts us either way I'm guessing but we'll have to see
Think of it: Rodrik survived the Red Wedding. He made it through all the way from the Twins to the Ironrath. Why would they build such a strong character, make him pass through so much only to be killed by Ramsay. That's insane, isn't it?
Plus, look at that face of Talia- it's more like "OMG! This is so awful!" rather than "OMG! WTF?!?! Another brother killed?!".
P.S. Promos, teasers, trailers are always misleading. You all will see next week that I'm right. Rodrik will not be flayed by Ramsay, he is too valuable and surely, useful.
P.P.S. What I can tell for sure is that someone will be flayed in fron of Rodrik's eyes, might be Elyssa, Duncan, Royland or even someone from the Whitehills. Ramsay says "It's very important to see what comes of disobediance."
Think of it: Rodrik survived the Red Wedding. He made it through all the way from the Twins to the Ironrath. Why would they build such a str… moreong character, make him pass through so much only to be killed by Ramsay. That's insane, isn't it?
Plus, look at that face of Talia- it's more like "OMG! This is so awful!" rather than "OMG! WTF?!?! Another brother killed?!".
P.S. Promos, teasers, trailers are always misleading. You all will see next week that I'm right. Rodrik will not be flayed by Ramsay, he is too valuable and surely, useful.
P.P.S. What I can tell for sure is that someone will be flayed in fron of Rodrik's eyes, might be Elyssa, Duncan, Royland or even someone from the Whitehills. Ramsay says "It's very important to see what comes of disobediance."
I think Rodrik will be fine for now. Ramsay wants to show him the price of disobedience, which I suspect he will do by flaying someone. My money is on Gryff.
If they say crap like that I NEED there to be the option to say -
"Really? Really? You're going to bust my balls after I was forced to choose one life over another or else that psycho would flay us all? How about you be lord and see how easy it is!"
Talia/Elissa will remember that and quit busting your balls
I can see Talia and Elissa guilt-tripping Rodrik for choosing the Sentinel. Y'know "how could you betray him, he worked so hard for you, where's your loyalty to family," etc etc.
People are speculating that Asher will return to Westeros this Episode so that's how they would continue. Hopefully Rodrik doesn't die I really like him.
If you pause it, Talia is right next to soldiers holding Rodrik. She is looking off to the left and seems horrified. Go to the trailer and pause around 55 seconds.
Rodrik can't die since his plotline isn't complete yet. He was brought back in ep 2 for some reason that can be retaking his home to die und… moreer the thick plot armor of Ramsay, would be just stupid.
"You need to see what comes from disobedience" is a tricky sentence, The whitehills also didn't obey him, they took the entire forest.
I think in this episode we'll have the chance to "join" the bad guys. Talia's face look more like* "what is happening is horrible"* than "the fuck? another brother dead? screenwriters pls"
The odds are on Gryff Whithill being flayed, that would make sense to "the walk" and the soldiers holding Rodrik because if Gryff dies, Ryon is pretty fucked.
Think of it: Rodrik survived the Red Wedding. He made it through all the way from the Twins to the Ironrath. Why would they build such a str… moreong character, make him pass through so much only to be killed by Ramsay. That's insane, isn't it?
Plus, look at that face of Talia- it's more like "OMG! This is so awful!" rather than "OMG! WTF?!?! Another brother killed?!".
P.S. Promos, teasers, trailers are always misleading. You all will see next week that I'm right. Rodrik will not be flayed by Ramsay, he is too valuable and surely, useful.
P.P.S. What I can tell for sure is that someone will be flayed in fron of Rodrik's eyes, might be Elyssa, Duncan, Royland or even someone from the Whitehills. Ramsay says "It's very important to see what comes of disobediance."
Think of it: Rodrik survived the Red Wedding. He made it through all the way from the Twins to the Ironrath. Why would they build such a strong character, make him pass through so much only to be killed by Ramsay. That's insane, isn't it?
Unfortunately thats exactly how Game of Thrones works. There are so many characters that had a good story and died suddenly and unexpected. Like Jon Snow, which was good-hearted and in the middle of assembling the wildlings to fight the white walkers. Or Stannis' story, building up an army and sacrificing all his family to become the one true king, just to lose the battle against the Boltons before he can reach King's Landing.
But I know what you mean, I dont want and think that Rodrik will die in episode 5. I think Ramsay will flay Gryff, or at least maim him. He will probably lose his eye so that no matter how you "handled" Gryff in episode 4 he still lost that eye, since characters with a "determinant" status are known for either die or not having an important role in the next episodes.
On the other hand it would be interesting if Ramsay flays the person you left at Ironrath. For example Duncan is my sentinel, and almost everyone brings his/her sentinel with him/her to Highpoint. But I brought Royland with me, cause then so many people speculated that Duncan could be the traitor, so I chose Royland to come along. And as you can see the decision who accompanys you to Highpoint is "more" important than we thought, at least if this theory turn out to be true.
Think of it: Rodrik survived the Red Wedding. He made it through all the way from the Twins to the Ironrath. Why would they build such a str… moreong character, make him pass through so much only to be killed by Ramsay. That's insane, isn't it?
Plus, look at that face of Talia- it's more like "OMG! This is so awful!" rather than "OMG! WTF?!?! Another brother killed?!".
P.S. Promos, teasers, trailers are always misleading. You all will see next week that I'm right. Rodrik will not be flayed by Ramsay, he is too valuable and surely, useful.
P.P.S. What I can tell for sure is that someone will be flayed in fron of Rodrik's eyes, might be Elyssa, Duncan, Royland or even someone from the Whitehills. Ramsay says "It's very important to see what comes of disobediance."
Nice theory but I dont think this will happen. I dont think Ramsay will let you chose who will die or being flayed, thats not his style. He didnt asked which Forrester should be the ward of house Whitehill and probably dont lets you chose now. Ramsay is doing what he likes, and he doens like taking orders or giving Rodrik the possibility of chosing the someone to get killed/flayed.
But if you could chose one of them, then every one of them would have a "determined-status" and is doomed to have no important role for the future.
Highly doubt we'll see any serious harm come to Rodrik. Knowing Ramsay, he'll do something to please his sociopathic palate. Since we see Ro… moredrik being held back by soldiers it's easy to assume he'll be the one being hurt, but what if Rodrik is the one choosing who get's punished?
Ramsay will probably have two, possibly a third, person for Rodrick to choose who Ramsay flays and or kills. Who it could be can be from a pretty good pool of choices; our mother, Royland, Duncan, Arthur, or even our bride to be. Doubt it'd be Talia since we see her turning away from what we have to assume is Ramsay's brutality being displayed.
Plus this could explain the final scene we see Rodrik in where he's obviously pissed and staring into the fire, he could be enraged to what he was forced to do. And naturally Ramsay may make the choice for us if we don't choose fast enough too.
Anyone else think so or say differently?
Well I didn't to make it sound like Ramsay was taking orders, just that given Ramsay's version of fun he'd give us the "pleasure" of choosing who he'd do the deed to. I look at this possibility as Ramsay still torturing us but on another level, he does have a good way of disturbing a person's mental state as you may have seen in the show.
I don't think the survivors would become non-important, it is fair to say that they may be set down a certain path for the remainder of the episode and next but i don't think it'll be as black and white as you may fear and myself too.
We'll just have to wait and see though, less than a week now!!
Nice theory but I dont think this will happen. I dont think Ramsay will let you chose who will die or being flayed, thats not his style. He … moredidnt asked which Forrester should be the ward of house Whitehill and probably dont lets you chose now. Ramsay is doing what he likes, and he doens like taking orders or giving Rodrik the possibility of chosing the someone to get killed/flayed.
But if you could chose one of them, then every one of them would have a "determined-status" and is doomed to have no important role for the future.
Well I didn't to make it sound like Ramsay was taking orders, just that given Ramsay's version of fun he'd give us the "pleasure" of choosin… moreg who he'd do the deed to. I look at this possibility as Ramsay still torturing us but on another level, he does have a good way of disturbing a person's mental state as you may have seen in the show.
I don't think the survivors would become non-important, it is fair to say that they may be set down a certain path for the remainder of the episode and next but i don't think it'll be as black and white as you may fear and myself too.
We'll just have to wait and see though, less than a week now!!
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This should make me worry... why am I laughing?
I can see Talia and Elissa guilt-tripping Rodrik for choosing the Sentinel. Y'know "how could you betray him, he worked so hard for you, where's your loyalty to family," etc etc.
Pretty sure Rodrick and/or Talia are going to suffer REALLY HARD!! But they'll live... I'm not even sure if Ramsay likes Rodricks way of acting, I mean the way I play Rodrick is crazy and takes no shit from the whitehills... I don't think Ramsay likes teh Whitehills that much either... He'll allways hurts us either way I'm guessing but we'll have to see
Think of it: Rodrik survived the Red Wedding. He made it through all the way from the Twins to the Ironrath. Why would they build such a strong character, make him pass through so much only to be killed by Ramsay. That's insane, isn't it?
Plus, look at that face of Talia- it's more like "OMG! This is so awful!" rather than "OMG! WTF?!?! Another brother killed?!".
P.S. Promos, teasers, trailers are always misleading. You all will see next week that I'm right. Rodrik will not be flayed by Ramsay, he is too valuable and surely, useful.
P.P.S. What I can tell for sure is that someone will be flayed in fron of Rodrik's eyes, might be Elyssa, Duncan, Royland or even someone from the Whitehills. Ramsay says "It's very important to see what comes of disobediance."
I agree. Rodrik ain't dying yet. Ramsay will kill someone though.
I think Rodrik will be fine for now. Ramsay wants to show him the price of disobedience, which I suspect he will do by flaying someone. My money is on Gryff.
If they say crap like that I NEED there to be the option to say -
"Really? Really? You're going to bust my balls after I was forced to choose one life over another or else that psycho would flay us all? How about you be lord and see how easy it is!"
Talia/Elissa will remember that and quit busting your balls
I could see Asher and sellswords coming just in time to save everyone.
If you pause it, Talia is right next to soldiers holding Rodrik. She is looking off to the left and seems horrified. Go to the trailer and pause around 55 seconds.
okay so opinion presented as fact
Unfortunately thats exactly how Game of Thrones works. There are so many characters that had a good story and died suddenly and unexpected. Like Jon Snow, which was good-hearted and in the middle of assembling the wildlings to fight the white walkers. Or Stannis' story, building up an army and sacrificing all his family to become the one true king, just to lose the battle against the Boltons before he can reach King's Landing.
But I know what you mean, I dont want and think that Rodrik will die in episode 5. I think Ramsay will flay Gryff, or at least maim him. He will probably lose his eye so that no matter how you "handled" Gryff in episode 4 he still lost that eye, since characters with a "determinant" status are known for either die or not having an important role in the next episodes.
On the other hand it would be interesting if Ramsay flays the person you left at Ironrath. For example Duncan is my sentinel, and almost everyone brings his/her sentinel with him/her to Highpoint. But I brought Royland with me, cause then so many people speculated that Duncan could be the traitor, so I chose Royland to come along. And as you can see the decision who accompanys you to Highpoint is "more" important than we thought, at least if this theory turn out to be true.
More than hear, they know us
Nice theory but I dont think this will happen. I dont think Ramsay will let you chose who will die or being flayed, thats not his style. He didnt asked which Forrester should be the ward of house Whitehill and probably dont lets you chose now. Ramsay is doing what he likes, and he doens like taking orders or giving Rodrik the possibility of chosing the someone to get killed/flayed.
But if you could chose one of them, then every one of them would have a "determined-status" and is doomed to have no important role for the future.
Well I didn't to make it sound like Ramsay was taking orders, just that given Ramsay's version of fun he'd give us the "pleasure" of choosing who he'd do the deed to. I look at this possibility as Ramsay still torturing us but on another level, he does have a good way of disturbing a person's mental state as you may have seen in the show.
I don't think the survivors would become non-important, it is fair to say that they may be set down a certain path for the remainder of the episode and next but i don't think it'll be as black and white as you may fear and myself too.
We'll just have to wait and see though, less than a week now!!
i dont think that Snow will kill Rodrik but hell might hurt him or do something to Talia
Yes, cant wait to play it, Iam so excited