Why no mention of a STEAM release?

I would have preferred to have got this on STEAM although when people asked on here about when/if it would happen, nothing was said.

Owing to that, I pre-ordered although the game was then released on STEAM at the same time as the TTG release.

Any chances of you allowing us to add our serial numbers into STEAM?
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  • edited July 2009
    Yeah I would like this too. Steam didn't give any notice that the game will also release on their platform. Neither did telltale mention it would be released on steam at the same time.
  • edited July 2009
    Seems rather sneeky to me which is disappointing but Telltale are the owner and publisher so they cant balme an NDA or the like.

    This would have involved planning so why could they not tell us so we could choose where to buy the game from?
  • edited July 2009
    Yeah, I would have prefered to purchase through steam as well. Tried my serial code on there this morning but it doesn't work.
  • edited July 2009
    I wanted to purchase through steam, but the Steve Purcell box art sucked me in and I regret nothing!
  • edited July 2009
    Why would you want to purchase it through Steam? Telltale offers a much better service than they do, and Steam don't offer anything exclusive. You can add non-Steam games into your Steam list and play it from there, so you're missing out on absolutely nothing.
  • edited July 2009
    "Why would you want to purchase it through Steam? Telltale offers a much better service than they do, and Steam don't offer anything exclusive."

    Err considering the replys on another thread and the treatment of us from the UK during the release of this game and a massive lack of contact, I beg to differ.

    Btw I did ask in a support request when it would be released on steam, that question was "forgot" about.
  • edited July 2009
    I like Steam, and I intend to get The Secret of Monkey Island through it.

    But any bonuses that Telltale gives, and the DVD at the end of the season, will always sell me on buying straight from the source.
  • edited July 2009
    Milky wrote: »
    "Why would you want to purchase it through Steam? Telltale offers a much better service than they do, and Steam don't offer anything exclusive."

    Err considering the replys on another thread and the treatment of us from the UK during the release of this game and a massive lack of contact, I beg to differ.

    The game was late by a couple of hours, and was released half an hour into the 8th for us here in the UK. Sure, I was slightly peeved, but Steam didn't, and wont, have the game up before Telltale.
  • edited July 2009
    I'd much rather have the games on Steam. I hope that TTG will make an option available to activate your products on Steam (even though I don't think they will), with the keycode you've got anyway.
  • edited July 2009
    I'm quite annoyed that they didn't care to respond to the big steam thread at all before release. Seemed like they were happy to answer any questions on the forum EXCEPT anything regarding a steam release. Very lame Telltale.

    This will no doubt be the first and last Telltale game I will buy directly from them. I probably won't get the DVD anyway.

    Oh and you can be sure it won't be possible to activate the game on steam, Telltale would have to pay Valve for that option.
  • edited July 2009
    TestType wrote: »
    I'm quite annoyed that they didn't care to respond to the big steam thread at all before release. Seemed like they were happy to answer any questions on the forum EXCEPT anything regarding a steam release. Very lame Telltale.

    This will no doubt be the first and last Telltale game I will buy directly from them. I probably won't get the DVD anyway.

    Oh and you can be sure it won't be possible to activate the game on steam, Telltale would have to pay Valve for that option.
    It could be that they were obligated not to talk about it ahead of time. Maybe their higherups or partners didn't want them to thwart any fence sitters from buying straight from Telltale.
  • edited July 2009
    yeah i also wonder why they dont want us to buy it from stream, i bought all telltale games from steam, now i have my games spread, tale of mi on an account here all the other games on steam, i dont like it.
  • edited July 2009
    It could be that they were obligated not to talk about it ahead of time. Maybe their higherups or partners didn't want them to thwart any fence sitters from buying straight from Telltale.

    Yes, that was in fact my point. Not a word on steam to maximise profits.
  • edited July 2009
    OH GREAT ... they now sell it on steam, i really hate telltale games for that, i wrote them an email an asked them if they would sell it on steam ...

    emily from telltale games replied this to me:

    "I don’t know what the plans are for Tales of Monkey Island on Steam. Even if the game does show up on Steam, though, the pre-order bonuses and the Collector’s DVD at the end of the season are only available to customers who buy the games from Telltalegames.com, so if those are important to you, I suggest placing a pre-order with Telltale."

    i thought they not gonna sell it on steam, so i preordered here, now its on steam but i cant activate it there, im really frustated!!!
  • edited July 2009
    I don't really care, since I got it much cheaper from TTG, since steam has €=$ policy. Plus TTG probably wanted to maximise their own preorder offer, which is understandable. I am not sure if steam even had it as *preorder* or is it only "complete pack".

    Sure you can rage all you want about TTG "not telling you", but I think its Steam that should highlight upcoming releases. Steam is ok platform, but I dont really care whetever I start monkey island from my desktop or steam, escpesially in this case, where the overall time spent playing particular episode is somewhat short.
  • edited July 2009
    People have two options:

    1.) Ask for a refund from Telltale and then re-buy it on Steam
    2.) Use the handy, dandy, "Add a non-Steam game to My Games list..." feature.

    Other than weird individual psychological reasons, what would action #2 not achieve that buying on Steam would?
  • edited July 2009
    People have two options:

    1.) Ask for a refund from Telltale and then re-buy it on Steam
    2.) Use the handy, dandy, "Add a non-Steam game to My Games list..." feature.

    Other than weird individual psychological reasons, what would action #2 not achieve that buying on Steam would?

    good idea, i will ask a refund, i will post here to say if it worked or not, i hope i get my money back
  • edited July 2009
    As much as I find buying Telltale games on Steam to be inadvisable at best, it doesn't seem right that the option for purchase wasn't made clear ahead of time. Neither Steam nor Telltale mentioned that it would be available in both places, leading people to assume that it would only be available in Telltale's store for at least a limited period of exclusivity.

    I don't think buying on Steam is the best option, for me it isn't even an option. But if they were planning on releasing it there, someone should have said something.
    Other than weird individual psychological reasons, what would action #2 not achieve that buying on Steam would?
    To play devil's advocate here, a lot of people like the Steam activation system. They want the game tied to their account across several PCs and through infinite re-installs over the entirety of Steam's lifespan(or at least as long as Steam has those nicely loose activation rules). Whereas the "Add non-Steam game" option, while retaining most of the features of Steam, does pretty much just copy the game's shortcut into the My Games list.
  • edited July 2009
    Might be because today alot of lucas games are on there now. So they might not have wanted it out there that MI was going to be on there tell they launched.
  • edited July 2009
    Milky wrote: »
    "Why would you want to purchase it through Steam? Telltale offers a much better service than they do, and Steam don't offer anything exclusive."

    Err considering the replys on another thread and the treatment of us from the UK during the release of this game and a massive lack of contact, I beg to differ.

    You, sir, are a child.
    emily from telltale games replied this to me:

    "I don’t know what the plans are for Tales of Monkey Island on Steam. Even if the game does show up on Steam, though, the pre-order bonuses and the Collector’s DVD at the end of the season are only available to customers who buy the games from Telltalegames.com, so if those are important to you, I suggest placing a pre-order with Telltale."

    i thought they not gonna sell it on steam, so i preordered here, now its on steam but i cant activate it there, im really frustated!!!

    And you clearly didn't understand the email. She said she didn't know what the plans were but that you won't get the preorder bonuses by buying through Steam (which is true) if that in fact was the case. She never said they wouldn't sell it on Steam. You still don't get the bonuses that you get by buying through the TTG store.
  • edited July 2009
    To play devil's advocate here, a lot of people like the Steam activation system. They want the game tied to their account across several PCs and through infinite re-installs over the entirety of Steam's lifespan(or at least as long as Steam has those nicely loose activation rules). Whereas the "Add non-Steam game" option, while retaining most of the features of Steam, does pretty much just copy the game's shortcut into the My Games list.

    Well, I think the Devil should understand that both systems share many of the same advantages!

    I can understand the launcher that seems to be giving Mac users problems, but you can't expect that to be supported on a native PC release, even if it does work on a Mac via whatever virtual means.

    As for the shortcut...you don't lose any functionality as I understand it. You've still got the Steam overlay, no? It's not like Telltale's games support any Source engine features that you'd get on Steam that you wouldn't through the Telltale downloads.
  • edited July 2009
    I've got almost 40 games on my Steam account (including Sam & Max season one and two), and because Tales of MI wasn't announced for Steam, I pre-ordered on TTG. Having my games spread out like this... Pisses me off just thinking about it.
  • edited July 2009
    You, sir, are a child.



    And you clearly didn't understand the email. She said she didn't know what the plans were but that you won't get the preorder bonuses by buying through Steam (which is true) if that in fact was the case. She never said they wouldn't sell it on Steam. You still don't get the bonuses that you get by buying through the TTG store.

    I WROTE IN MY EMAIL THAT I DONT WANT THE BONUSES ... the best about the bonus is the free game, but i already own all telltale games! i bought each telltale game from steam, and wanted to add monkey island to my games collection on steam, because i like it to have all my games on one single account.

    I said to her that i would prefer to buy it from steam, thats why i asked her if they had planned to sell it on steam, she replied that they did not have such plans, there was also no comming soon announcement on steam, all i wanted was to be able to play it on the release day, i waited until july 6, still nothing on steam, thats why i bought it from telltale shop, few hours later i see they sell it on steam

    IM SURE SHE DID UNDERSTAND MY EMAIL VERY WELL, i got fooled really bad, its sad they did what they did just to earn few more dollars, im an honest customer i buy games and dont use emule to downloaded cracked versions, the only thing i asked was to be able to buy on steam, they made my think they would not sell it through steam, now its too late, im really angry.
  • edited July 2009
    She didn't say "no." She said she didn't know if it would happen. Obviously we can't prove if that was true or not, but if you read the words "I don't know" and think "definitely not," that's your own fault.
  • edited July 2009
    chrisweb wrote: »
    bought each telltale game from steam, and wanted to add monkey island to my games collection on steam, because i like it to have all my games on one single account.

    Bloody hell, what did you do before Steam was released? You make it sound like it's the end of the world if you have to play a game that doesn't sit in your "My Games" list.
  • edited July 2009
    The thing is, games just don't appear on STEAM, it takes planning so they (Tell Tale Games) knew the game was going to be on STEAM, someone at TTG had to send the binarys to Valve so someone knew.

    To most, this stinks of TTG deliberately hiding the fact they were selling the game elsewhere to increase their own profits, ignoring the fact of what their customers would prefer.

    Either there is a serious lack of communication among TTG staff and nobody knows what anyone else is doing (The STEAM thing wouldn't have happened overnight what with contractual details etc) or they delibrately witheld the information for their own cause.

    Obviously, I take this all back if they are planning to allow serials to be activated on STEAM?
  • edited July 2009
    Gimpymoo wrote: »
    Obviously, I take this all back if they are planning to allow serials to be activated on STEAM?

    me too, thats all i ask, please allow us to activate the game on steam :o
  • edited July 2009
    I don't understand the need that all you are having to have it in steam. It makes no difference to the game other than the fact it's quicker to load the Telltale one as you don't need to load steam first.
  • edited July 2009
    1. Going by conversion rates in the UK, it was about £3 cheaper to buy ToMI from Telltale over Steam anyway.

    2. The Telltale bonus is a free episode of your choice. Steam's is the Wallace & Gromit one.

    3. Fuck Steam.

    4. Grow up

    End.
  • edited July 2009
    stemot wrote: »
    I don't understand the need that all you are having to have it in steam. It makes no difference to the game other than the fact it's quicker to load the Telltale one as you don't need to load steam first.

    what i dont undertsand is why do you want me not to be able to buy my games on steam, why do you post and repost your opinion all the time? why do you think i should not buy my games there? whats bothers you so bad when i say i would prefer having all my games on a single account, cant you just leave me with my opinion? im not gonna change my opinion even if you add hundred posts to mine ;)
  • edited July 2009
    hot_heart wrote: »
    1. Going by conversion rates in the UK, it was about £3 cheaper to buy ToMI from Telltale over Steam anyway.

    2. The Telltale bonus is a free episode of your choice. Steam's is the Wallace & Gromit one.

    3. Fuck Steam.

    4. Grow up

    End.

    Grow up.

    Post reported for trolling, plus the fact you appear to know very little about the subject matter.
  • edited July 2009
    chrisweb wrote: »
    what i dont undertsand is why do you want me not to be able to buy my games on steam, why do you post and repost your opinion all the time? why do you think i should not buy my games there? whats bothers you so bad when i say i would prefer having all my games on a single account, cant you just leave me with my opinion? im not gonna change my opinion even if you add hundred posts to mine ;)

    I didn't say you shouldn't be able to buy your games in steam, what I'm saying is now you have bought a game not on Steam, it's not the end of the world, or Telltales fault, you have to play it without Steam.
    You knew when you bought it you wouldn't be using Steam to run it, the fact that a Steam version was released doesn't give Telltale an obligation to use their money to pay Valve so their serials can work in Steam and you can have you games neat and tidy in one account. They have not done it for any other series so far, i'd be very suprised if they changed it now. So just enjoy the game and stop worrying where your launching it from.
  • edited July 2009
    Gimpymoo wrote: »
    Grow up.

    Post reported for trolling, plus the fact you appear to know very little about the subject matter.

    Oh, I'm shakin', I'm shakin'...

    But seriously, you seem to have a reasonable head on your shoulders. It's the other people that are sounding like crybabies.

    Still I cannot understand why anyone would want to order from Steam.
  • edited July 2009
    one day we will have to stop this never ending story ;) thats why i promise this is my last stteam-related post, your right its not the end of the world, but i feel bad, i cant chnage my feelings, i really enjoyed the game, i left work earlier to be able to play it, couldnt stop thinking about it when i was at work, but then i came home and saw they were selling it on steam and i was badly disappointed, i was very carefull to avoid buying a game from elsewhere then steam, i send that mail last week, i waited until almost midnight july 6 before i bought the game, all that time i was hoping i could buy it from steam, then a gave up because there was no announcement on steam and because they replied to my mail that they had no plans to sell it through steam, i would have been totally satisfied with the game if i would have bought it on steam, now its missing in my games collection, thats sad ... thats it good fight good night.
  • edited July 2009
    I agree Chris,

    Unlimited downloads
    No additional DRM (Mostly)
    No serial numbers to worry about
    One login gives you all your games on ANY computer.

    I have STEAM installed at home on 2 computers and it allows me to play games on both systems without the need to remember serial numbers or worry about DRM.

    I like STEAM, it suits me, everyone to their own I guess.

    There is a large community of people who like to bash STEAM when infact, they have little recent experience of it.

    The main problem is the dinosaurs holding onto their precious dvd's and shilling anything which takes them outside their comfort zone, regardless of the benefits another medium brings.
  • edited July 2009
    Gimpymoo wrote: »
    Unlimited downloads
    No additional DRM (Mostly)
    No serial numbers to worry about
    One login gives you all your games on ANY computer.

    I have STEAM installed at home on 2 computers and it allows me to play games on both systems without the need to remember serial numbers or worry about DRM.

    I like STEAM, it suits me, everyone to their own I guess.

    Nothing I can't do with the setup that Telltale have.
  • edited July 2009
    hot_heart wrote: »
    Still I cannot understand why anyone would want to order from Steam.
    I don't either, but that is a completely different point altogether.

    The point isn't Steam or the benefits of Steam. The point is that these people would have preferred it on Steam. Regardless of whether or not that is a good decision, it's a valid one, and they were more or less led to believe that it wasn't going to be released on Steam...at least not on the same day.

    The issue here is one of communication, which is troubling considering that Telltale has in the past been quite amicable in the department of communication between themselves and the fanbase.
  • edited July 2009
    Nothing I can't do with the setup that Telltale have.

    That is my point, I can do this for ALL my games, not just the Telltale ones:

    http://steamcommunity.com/id/gimpymoo/games
  • edited July 2009
    I've no problem with Steam, I'm just saying you can do that with the Telltale setup with the added bonus of the developer getting all of your money instead of Valve taking their share.
  • edited July 2009
    To anyone complaining that they don't like not having the games on the Steam My Games list:

    1. open up Steam
    2. click on the My Games tab
    3. click on "Add Non-Steam Game..."
    4. Click any and all games that appears in the window in the populated list that pops up
    5. ???
    6. PROFIT!!!

    and as corruptbiggins said: you can access your telltale games from any computer and download them as many times as you want, only you have to use your internet browser instead the Steam Program. (like that's really any different)
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