Big mistake evident at the start of the game

TeaTea
edited July 2009 in Tales of Monkey Island
The game starts with the Main Menu. It should go straight into the intro. We've been over this about Sam and Max. The options need to go in the launcher.


The rest of the game is amazing.

That is all.

Comments

  • edited July 2009
    I prefer that it goes to the menu first. Gives me the chance to change to my preferred resolution and sound volume settings before starting the game. I hope they always do it this way.
  • edited July 2009
    Hope it stays like this forever. And it allows me to set subtitles to visible before the intro.
  • edited July 2009
    I with they still put the subtitles on by default.
  • edited July 2009
    Arodin wrote: »
    I prefer that it goes to the menu first. Gives me the chance to change to my preferred resolution and sound volume settings before starting the game. I hope they always do it this way.

    What he said.
  • edited July 2009
    It should have started the same way Sam and Max season 2 started before you had a saved game or previous episode installed:

    It took you to a set up screen and walked you through setting the proper resolution and choosing a hint level and setting subtitles.

    The way it is, the game chooses default settings and you just start the game. I'm sure a ton of people just started playing, not realizing hints were on by default. Not everyone tweaks with the options before playing.

    I knew to do so, but I also know a a few people that didn't and also didn't realize they could turn off hints.
  • edited July 2009
    depends...
    I agree that kickin straight into the intro scene is way more effective, but remember that a lot of people aren't native english speakers. I personally have not much trouble understanding the games, but i serioulsy doubt my skills at oral understanding... So setting the subtitltes on before starting the game is a must for me, i'd just hate to have some intro ruined just because i didn't get what was said.
    I also play the games on a rather old comp, so, just for the same reason, i like being able to set the graphic settings down as soon as possible.

    Now this "configuration screen" before actually launching the game... I admit i had forgotten it. I guess it's a good way to get best of both worlds.
  • edited July 2009
    for the first episode, I like going to a title screen straight away and setting the game up how I want it. the rest of the episodes should be able to use the preferences from the first and go straight into the game (with maybe a short "previously on tales of monkey island...").
  • edited July 2009
    How could you complain about the menu for ToMI though? It's absolutely gorgeous! :)
  • edited July 2009
    The menu didn't work it's function for me for this reason...

    I spent so much time trying to optimize the settings for my preferred usage DURING the game I couldn't even enjoy the first half of it. But I'm really glad there are so many options; these are really needed for all the diverse tastes; but I will have to go back and play the game again to fully enjoy the beginning.
  • edited July 2009
    How could you complain about the menu for ToMI though? It's absolutely gorgeous! :)

    I wish the graphics followed the style... It almost felt like a sequel to COMI before the game actually starts.
  • edited July 2009
    depends...
    I agree that kickin straight into the intro scene is way more effective, but remember that a lot of people aren't native english speakers. I personally have not much trouble understanding the games, but i serioulsy doubt my skills at oral understanding... So setting the subtitltes on before starting the game is a must for me, i'd just hate to have some intro ruined just because i didn't get what was said.
    I also play the games on a rather old comp, so, just for the same reason, i like being able to set the graphic settings down as soon as possible.

    You people are so strange. What the OP said was make a LAUNCHER. You know a program that launches and lets you setup ALL the options of the game before it ever loads. You open the launcher which is usually built into an autorun on a cd and have options in the launcher (Including sub titles). Than you click launch, and the game starts right into the cinematic with no main menu.

    Speaking of sub-titles.... the TT ones suck... I miss the floating lucas subtitles :-(.

    This, is how it should be done.
  • edited July 2009
    What the hell? Isn't the main menu , the launcher?? What on earth is the difference , it runs before the cinematic starts, you can set your settings. Its just a graphically advance "launcher".

    I know the launcher launches the actual game, and the menu is part of the game, but it really acts exactly the same way, runs before the cinematics and won't appear again unless you want it to. Then when you continue your game, you get to load it right away, something that launchers usually dont do. If the cutscene started before the menu , you would have to let it load then skip it everytime to load your game.
  • edited July 2009
    Roamin64 wrote: »
    What the hell? Isn't the main menu , the launcher?? What on earth is the difference , it runs before the cinematic starts, you can set your settings. Its just a graphically advance "launcher".

    I know the launcher launches the actual game, and the menu is part of the game, but it really acts exactly the same way, runs before the cinematics and won't appear again unless you want it to. Then when you continue your game, you get to load it right away, something that launchers usually dont do. If the cutscene started before the menu , you would have to let it load then skip it everytime to load your game.

    No it wouldn't it would just auto load the most recent saved game. And the point of the launcher is so you don't have to actually launch the game to tweak settings. Something that is just technologically superior and here is why.

    Some users use TV's and or devices that have non standard resolutions. Without the launcher it's completely impossible to change to a supported resolution mode without hacking the .prefs which is encrypted... so unless you have a wavering knowledge of computers it's simply impossible for you.

    All games should come standard with a way to set up options outside the game in case you need to troubleshoot for technical support. Otherwise your just SOL.

    If that guy never made the TTRespatcher I wouldn't have been able to play the game as I needed 1280x768 and 1280x720 was the only option available in my aspect ratio.

    K, thanks.
  • edited July 2009
    Laokin wrote: »
    You people are so strange. What the OP said was make a LAUNCHER. You know a program that launches and lets you setup ALL the options of the game before it ever loads. You open the launcher which is usually built into an autorun on a cd and have options in the launcher (Including sub titles). Than you click launch, and the game starts right into the cinematic with no main menu.

    Speaking of sub-titles.... the TT ones suck... I miss the floating lucas subtitles :-(.

    This, is how it should be done.

    I was just pointing out the reasons why i think it's better to be able to set all those things up before actually running the game, and mostly answering to the first post.
    As i said after that, i had forgotten about the launcher in sam and max season two which i-don't-recall-his-name talked about just before me, and i do agree that this is probably the way to go.
    But hey whatever... No matter how cool the menu is (and it sure was), this is only a minor issue here.

    EDIT : okay, i read the first post again, and i guess i did so a bit too quickly the firt time around, he did mention the launcher thing. So now i see your point and i'll just shut up.
    Guess we all need to think a bit more before posting sometimes ;)
  • edited July 2009
    I much prefer it going to the menu before the game starts, that way I can change all my settings beforehand. If I remember correctly, in previous Sam & Max games it went straight in and people complained they couldn't change their resolution before it started, hence the menu. The ideal would be a fun setup like the COPS in Sam & Max, but the menu works great.
  • edited July 2009
    TheJoe wrote: »
    The game starts with the Main Menu. It should go straight into the intro. We've been over this about Sam and Max. The options need to go in the launcher.


    The rest of the game is amazing.

    That is all.

    The game starts at a much too hign Level of detail for my PC. I am glad that I don't have to watch the intro in a stuttering manner because I can lower the quality before everything starts.
    Hope it stays like this forever. And it allows me to set subtitles to visible before the intro.
    And that one too. I want my subtitles in the Intro.
  • edited July 2009
    I don't think anyone is suggesting that the game should start without any ability to change settings. The argument is that the game should use the launcher to adjust the settings so that when you first run the game, the game starts the intro, instead of going to the main menu.

    I personally don't mind it going straight to the main menu, but I thought I might suggest an alternative that you could discuss. How about that on the first run of the game it goes to the settings screen, instead of the main menu. This would make it obvious to people that changing the settings is a good idea, and doesn't require the launcher to contain additional options.
  • edited July 2009
    EMAN528 wrote: »
    I with they still put the subtitles on by default.

    I had the subtitles on for a while but having them placed at the bottom of the screen caused me to miss a lot of the animation so I just turned it off and enjoyed it more without them.
  • TeaTea
    edited July 2009
    You all missed a part of my post. Go back and read it again.
  • edited July 2009
    1. Its fine the way it is
    2. And even if it isnt to you.. its not a big mistake

    stop misleasding people with the title
  • TeaTea
    edited July 2009
    Daawh well... At least my sarcasmometer works.
  • edited July 2009
    Hope it stays like this forever. And it allows me to set subtitles to visible before the intro.

    i also agree.
  • edited July 2009
    I vote for Giant Robots eating macaroni
  • edited July 2009
    I REALLY don't think it jumping right into the game is a good idea. Being allowed to go get a soda or something before you start the game is good. And I'm tired of all you guys complaining about TMI not working on your supposedly suped up computers. Compared to most newer computers, mine is crap. It runs TMI JUST FINE at its TOP SETTINGS. It's Vista that's your problem. Vista is a nightmare. I have XP.
  • edited July 2009
    The main thing to keep in mind is that the various console manufacturers all have certain requirements and guidelines that all games must meet. There are a number of technical things that fall under the umbrella, but they also extend to things like the company splash screens you see at startup and the existence and formatting of title screens.
  • edited July 2009
    Actually I'd prefer if all my games wouldn't show me the danged intros and splashscreens every time I start them up. I think it's the intro that should be moved to the launcher instead, at least after the first time the game is run... hate those things, especially the ones with company splashscreens that can't be bypassed without editing in some obscure switch and with monstrously loud sounds to boot.
  • edited July 2009
    I like that menu is before intro, because that way I can go directly to save/load menu without need of skipping the intro first.
  • edited July 2009
    Options in a launcher fell lazy for me.

    And when I first played MI3, it took me a few hours and much searching on the in-disc manual to figure out to press F1.

    It was a gorgeous menu. I loved it.
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