Concerning Bonnie After 400 Days (Spoliers)
Now we know why Bonnie goes with Tavia no matter what. It also looks like going with Tavia was a bad idea. Carver is shaping up to be a bad as the ol' Gov, it not worse. And I really, really feel bad since I managed to get all the characters from 400 Days to go, That may just bite me in the backside like a Walker, it seems.
How do you think your choices from 400 Days will effect the rest of the season?
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I knew from the second I saw Bonnie that she was up to no good. I dunno, It was just a gut feeling and if Tavia is working for Carver (Which I'm quite sure she is) it almost seems like a...cult? In the trailer for S2 EP3, Carver said something along the lines of "If people don't accept our love, we will make them wish they had."
I'm more concerned about Becca! Prior to Walter helping Bonnie with the food, she hinted that "she had a kid" with her. That's clearly implying that Becca & Steph are with her in my game. And if Carver has some kind of cult going on, Becca is clearly going to be interesting to meet up with in my game given how impressionable she is in 400 Days.
Bonnie's comment about "having a kid" made me think she is now the guardian of Becca and that something happened to Shel. I'm really nervous now because everyone but Russel went with Tavia on my file.
She's kinda dumb. idk she gives that vibe
Changed your title to avoid specifically mentioning Bonnie's appearance in Episode 202.
Your title was fine else wise, but most people will likely consider Bonnie's appearance in Episode 202 to be a spoiler itself.
what if you keep a new save and replay the 400 days and leave bonnie behind? Well cant.. Cause she comes anyway.. Right?
I thought she was just lying, that's why I knew I shouldn't trust her. Didn't expect it to end this badly though.
Thank you. I hadn't considered that. I'll try to be more careful next time.
Not a problem!
I figured she was lying too. She also strikes me as someone who is easily misled.
Let's not worry about Carver, he is just like the governor:
A mad control-freak whose ruthless behaviour keeps his community safe.
I'm more worried about Luke.
I don't like him always disappearing when someone needs help and I sure don't
like that bonding with him which TTG seems to do with us.
I have a feeling he (and maybe Carlos too) will turn out to be a bad guy.
Like Carver said: "don't you know who you are staying with ?"
You're joking right? After everything Carver has done you still think Carlos and Luke are the bad guys? You have a bizarre definition for "bad."
Bonnie said that in my game as well, but when I completed 400 Days I was only able to get Vince to accompany Bonnie. I think it more likely that Bonnie was lying in order to garner sympathy from Walter so she could report back to Carver without having Kenny shoot at her.
Should we really trust Carver? He tortured Carlos in front of his daughter, then executed Walter in cold blood. Followed by Alvin, and possibly Carlos (from what I've heard). He sure doesn't sound like someone I would trust.
Anybody else think that Luke (I'm not sure if it can be Kenny) when he runs off, comes back next episode with the guys who stayed at the camp?
I'm sure Becca and Clem will be great friends. And btw I think you meant Sheil, not Steph.
Bonnie is the one character that comes no matter what.
I thought that might have meant that she was with the 400 Days crew and that she was talking about Becca. Becca was what? 11? 12?
He says Alvin murdered his friend George when he's got the gun to his head. We still don't really know what the cabin group did.
I think Carver is a bad guy, he is at least very obvious in that.
But it would be naive to conclude that because there is one bad guy, everyone else must be good guys.
I'm saying that I don't trust Luke.
He has something to hide and his shifting behaviour tells me that he is very sly.
I feel that TTG uses a similar mechanic to those of the dog from episode one,
they make us bond with Luke a lot, only so that he can "bite" us later.
Carver obviously travels after Luke's group for miles, not only because of Rebecca but
also because that group did something bad that he couldn't forgive
(In the preview trailer he in his madness tells about a chance to atone for their sins).
That might also be the reason why Luke ran off when he noticed that Carver was coming.
Since I made Bonnie "Honest" on my 400 days I'm going to assume that Carver's Compound could have some orphans living there. Carver being the manipulative bastard he is could have paired Bonnie off to "mentor" a girl. Making her feel needed and strengthening her bonds to the community. I also don't think Carver's running a Cult. {Although a Cult would be interesting plot Telltale} I think it's more like a mixture of Roman's group after the attack and Woodbury. I highly suspect Carver's going to at the very least pull an empty gun choose who dies test on Clem to see if she'll try and shoot him. But regardless with Michael Madsen voicing him you know Carver is going to be a complete and utter bastard. I even suspect he might have one of his men he knows is a predator in the same area as Clem or Sarah so his man will attack the girl/s and he can kill the guy and make himself look good. "We don't tolerate that kind of moral sickness here."
What all has Carver done? Tracked down the mother of his child and killed 1 or 2 people after he was fired on first? Not saying he's a hero or anything, but I wouldn't put him on Governer/Negan tier villian just yet. He did say something about Alvin killing his friend George. Maybe there will be a twist that Carver isn't as bad as he seems.
So what you're saying is that Tavias group is Carvers group? A group that recruits people is also the group yhat attacks people? And that no one recognised Bonnie despite being from the se groip?
Do you have any semblence of common sense?
The more likely theoy is that Bonnie is playing scout like Tavia
That doesn't excuse the torture in my eyes.
Though I WAS surprised when I heard that. Alvin seemed more harmless than SARAH up until that point.
Carver is a stupid homage to Governor Phillip and Neagan: Hes posing as his brother like the Governor (hes actuallu George) and he an eye for an eyes like neegan
Amazing, I also theorised that the whole Dog segment was gonna be a foreshadow of Luke
Well, I guess Bonnie and Wyatt are not going to be so chummy.
AW YEAH! Shel, Vince, and Russel (aka favorite 400 Days characters) are lookin' good!
...well Carver did say he was going to give them a chance to become welcome in his group again or something like that, right? Maybe 400 Days cast got offered to go to carvers camp after tavias right when cabin group left (unlikely) but you have a good point. Bonnie jumps on the bandwagon to go with Tavia a little to soon, so maybe she was offered a place with carver and did the same thing?
So did Bonnie really get knocked up in the 16 months or was it a lie
All I am saying it that it is possible, since we know Bonnie goes with Tavia regardless and Bonnie is now one of Carver's people. However, we don't know what happened between the end of 400 Days and now, but we do know at least a year or more has passed. A lot could have happened in that time. Perhaps all was well and good at first, and then went to hell. Maybe Carver started out a good man and then went drunk with power. Or maybe he instigated a coup and took over the community. Another possibility is that something happened to the original group leader(s), and then Carver filled the power vaccum. One last possibility is that Carver's group attacked Tavia's group and Bonnie became a prisoner, and was forced or influenced to follow Carver or else.
Simply put, we don't know the details at this point. I'm sure episode 3 and beyond will provide them.
Erm wait, you're acting like we're meant to trust carver? Lol
It was definitely a lie.
We really need context. I imagine any type of violent confusion could have happened over people trying to stop the cabin group from leaving Carver's camp.
She probably didnt even want the food, it could have been part of the cover
She even tried to deny the food.
I just thought she lied about having a kid, and a family to gain sympathy from Clem, Walt and Kenny. Bonnie hardly seemed close to Becca in 400 Days. She lied about living just down the mountain too.
I like your new avatar, blind
Don't let images deceive you. The nicest people can turn out to be the biggest monsters.
I think yes, she is not running from Carver in 400 days, because that would not add up time wise.
Picture Bonnie as Lilly's sister from the TV show. Misled by a charismatic leader she goes to spy. "Go unarmed we don't want to provoke a fight." He tells her. "Wow this man really wants peace." She thinks so she volunteers for this potential suicide mission partly out of guilt for murdering Dee and her former junkie lifestyle. But what does she find when she gets there? Cautious people but generous as well willing to give her food. Suddenly her brain is screaming "Abort abort!" she stammers about not wanting to take too much. Feeling guilty about taking anything from good people when she knows her own community doesnt need it. But she can't just yell "I'm a spy i'm sorry!" or drop the food so she takes it back. She gets back and she tells Carver about who she saw. Nobody meets Carver's description until she describes Clementine. Carver tells her that they need to go and bring back their people. Bring back his child. It's not safe out there. So they go out with guns. And luckily for Bonnie when they arrive it's a walkerfest so she thinks she's a big damn hero. Then Carver asks Carlos about Rebecca and he spits in Carver's face so Carver punches him. Seems legit. Then they bring them inside and Carver breaks out the threats and torture andc Bonnies queasy but suddenly someone she knew is dead from a mysterious sniper and Carver enforces an eye for an eye mentality by killing Walter. Bonnie is sickened but it's too late to do anything.
Cue trailer for episode 3 which is never a clear guarantee of what you'll see in an episode. Bonnie and Clem are both smiling. When Clem is also shown carrying a bucket like a slave/prisoner in the same trailer. So either Clem is manipulating Bonnie to get an edge against Carver which will probably backfire earning Kenny a hammer to the face. Or Bonnie is realizing just what Carver is. Or Bonnie feels bad and is trying to get her to feel better.
On an unrelated note I hope that either.
A. Dialogue for charging Clem
Kenny:You threw yourself at Carver to save big Al!
Clem: I guess throwing ourselves at our deaths for people we barely know is something we have in common.
B. Clem pulls a gun on someone perhaps Carver forces a sadistic choice
1. Obviously youd be given the option of shooting carver and no bullets but to change it up have an option for Clem to put the gun to her own head and pull the trigger and click empty
2. Clem pulls a gun on someone maybe even Carver the gun is probably empty but when they say she wont do it she has the option of recognizing the safeties on and turning it off perhaps even making a comment about just because they removed the magazine doesn't mean they remembered one in the chamber.
C. Being able to threaten to enjoy killing carver and when you finally get the chance to do it he asks if you're enjoying it and being able to say yes. I think a psychotic comment like that would do Michael Madsen proud.
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